Oh yes, Chaos, I'm aware. As far as I can tell a number of commanders also have a mini void shield surrounding their heads to make up for the loss of a helmet
Oh yes, Chaos, I'm aware. As far as I can tell a number of commanders also have a mini void shield surrounding their heads to make up for the loss of a helmet
Diomedes is totally pimpin', he's gonna have all the hoes!
I guess day 1 DLC was too casual for EA, so let's start doing 8-month-early DLC! - Shuma
Eagerly awaiting DoW3 with mod tools. You hear me Relic?!
This is just something I put together in a few seconds on Paint, just to give myself an image of how the Lord General might look like with a kasrkin helmet. ^^
Thought I could share it with the rest of you, but most might not want this kind of mod for the IG. -hehe-
And remember, it was made in Paint, so the quality is Not the best. The size is not correct. ^^
Oh look, Shuma's learnt to kitbash
I take it this was a somewhat tongue-in-cheek reference to the Ork SP plot?
I am an Iron Warrior! Iron Within, Iron Without!
The inquisitor hat might actually look cool on the lord general
His words are Wise his face is Beard!
Enjoying the work Shuma, especially the Iron Warriors helmet.
In light of Retribution being released soon, and the only sign of Slaanesh being the noise marines. Would it be possible to make a Slaanesh upgrade mod? Now I'm not saying all the characters have remoled helmets and armour, but a bit closer to the Khorne/Tzeentch upgrades, you'know, glowing sign undernieth, increased stats (possibly corresponding to the speed of the unit in terms of CC and fire rate?).
My Black War mod will have Slanesh represented, as for cosmetic wargear yeah she/he/it will also get some in due time.
Imperial Guard General with Commissar's Hat and Cigar:
That and the whole "they're a chapter of filthy thiefs" thing
MagpiesRavens got this hat from the Inquisition, the Inquisition has no records of this:
Please, update instructions about installing mod. You can put any SGA archive to GameAssets/Mods folder, and game will read them.
So there are method to install those mods without editing DoW2.module
Also, here are portrait for your new commander
Last edited by Existor; 2nd Feb 11 at 8:51 PM.
Very silly question....... Where I can get this beta ?
Great Tactics come with great sacrifice.
Your GM look good Shuma! When can we see the Death Korps of Krieg? I'm really looking forward to that commissar posted a while back.
Soon(tm), this may come as a shock to some but i do play the game. Although i've been getting my ass kicked The Guard are so squishy it's unbelievable, if you so much as sneeze on them they explode.
Chaos Rising Guardsmen:
This mod simply replaces the Retribution guardsmen with the CR Guardsmen, ie only Guardsmen and Heavy Weapon teams are affected.
Hows your fancy termi armour and stern guards coming along? or is that on hold till retribution comes out?
Yeah those guardsmen look a hell of a lot better. Carapace armor and better heads, are immediately evident. Are you adding some custom guardsmen heads of your own?
Everything is on hold until i make the Death Korps, which i will start now that i've finished this(Edit: Actually now that i think about it i still have to give Apollo a helmet).
No real reason to, there's already like 9 heads not counting the new ones from Retribution.
Freebooters for MP:
Ok now i can do the Death Korps.
By the way, for the Death Korps. I originally intended to leave the Catachans as Catachans since... Well they're Catachans, but now i'm debating if i should replace them with Death Korp Grenadiers or not, what do you think?
So, if you're reading this it means you're downloading one of this guys after the DA DLC came out, this only concerns you if you're after the freebooter download, as you know Relic added the Freebooters to MP for free in a patch, so what's different between mine and Relic's? Mine are team colorable and have rank unlocks, where as Relic's always have the same color scheme as those of the campaign and don't have rank unlocks(as far as i know), however Relic's start looking awesome where mine look crappy in the beginning and only get awesome in the end.
That's all, carry on.
Last edited by Shuma; 2nd May 11 at 10:24 AM.
Did Freebooterz mod replaces portraits for Warboss? If no, I can help with replacing
Yes, replace them. And replace Stormtroopers too. I can help with portraits. Same for Diomedes helmetBy the way, for the Death Korps. I originally intended to leave the Catachans as Catachans since... Well they're Catachans, but now i'm debating if i should replace them with Death Korp Grenadiers or not, what do you think?
Death Corps sounds great. =D Love their stylish looks. ^^Ok now i can do the Death Korps.
I think you should replace them, but not make them Granadiers, since what I've come to understand, the Granadiers are their counterpart to Stormtroopers. And could look weird to have 2 different types of Granadiers then. So I say replace the Stormtroopers with Granadiers, and something else for the Catachans. To what I dont know. =/By the way, for the Death Korps. I originally intended to leave the Catachans as Catachans since... Well they're Catachans, but now i'm debating if i should replace them with Death Korp Grenadiers or not, what do you think?
PS: Dont forget to swap the Inquisitor Stormtroopers with Kasrkins. And the Kasrkin helmet for Lord General. -hehe- ^^
We need this ^^
And i'm all for changing Catachians to something Krieg. But as pointed above Granadiers are basicly Stormtroppers.
In option it says "You can save other's custom badge to your PC" but How you putting in a custom badge to begin with ?
I start playing it and I quicky use "Chaos Rising Guardsmen" mod.
When I see how rude they just do to our IG by using their old DoW model into this game.
Seriously, They already got a good model of IG in DoW2
They even have Keskins squad running around in single player campaign.
Then all I got is same old face in entire squad ! See no Keskin too ! REEEEELIC !
Ahem* Sorry for my temper, as I know this is beta.
Anyway Lord Commissar is totally bad ass, when unlock tier3 wargear, so this will do for now.
Any hope on making a random face go in IG squad, Shuma?
I like to see them mixing face in squad with Keskin helmet, Normal helmet, Bald guy with breather. Like I see them in single player.
Awesome stuff Shuma, love the Guardsmen I wonder why Relic didn't use those models in the first place, they're so much better... any plans on replacing Stormtroopers with the old Kasrkin models as well?
Another question: A while ago, you posted some extremely impressive armors and helmets for the Force Commander (it had eagles on the helmet and cape and loincloth on the armor, if I recall correctly) and his Terminator form, is there are way to get these for Retribution? The pictures are all down and the file names in your Space Marine download folder are all abbreviated, so I'm not sure which files I need. Any help would be appreciated
There was also mention of Honor Guard Terminators, I'd be very interested in those as well.
On the subject of Catachans/Kriegers: Personally, I'd prefer a coherent Krieger roster for better atmosphere. Catachans already seem out of place in the otherwise 100% Cadian faction to me. If you're going to convert all other units to Kriegers, might as well go all the way!
BTW Shuma, I see on those Guardsmen mod pictures that you have the Gurren Brigade badge if my eyes dont fail me. If so, can I have it aswell? =D
Also, I think that the Guardsman Mod you made might be useless in the future. Since I think most of that is Rank Wargear. I have seen guardsmen with googles on there helmets and extra stuff (like bajonets on the lasguns) in Beta, and my Heavy Weapon-Team got those ammo straps (also bajonets).
Just wanted to say that. ^^
Can't do the randomization thing without breaking online.
Most of the Space Marine helmets don't work at the moment since most of them are FC helmets and thus replaced Vanilla Ice's head, the problem is that now the FC isn't Vanilla Ice so i have to fix them. And everything else is on hold 'till i'm done with the Death Korps.
As for the Catachan Krieger thing. Well here's the thing, fluff wise there's no such thing as Krieg Stormtroopers, Stormtroopers are Stormtroopers and there are only 3 variations, there's Kasrkins which are strictly Cadian Stormtroopers, the generic Stormtrooper and the Inquisitorial Stormtrooper, the last 2 look the same with the exception of heraldry(ie Inquisitorial ones are plastered with Is and purity seals), i'm reading the Siege of Vraks and according to this Grenadiers are simple Krieger Guardsmen who shine in combat more than the average Guardsmen, so they're given some pieces of ceramite, a hellgun, a death mask and an Aquila on their helmet then they're sent to die, literally 8 out of 10 die in combat.
So originally my plan was to leave Catachans as they are, use the common Krieger look for Guardsmen and come up with something new for Stormtroopers just for fun(since as previously mentioned, there's no such thing as Krieger stormtroopers as far as i know), now after reading a bit of Grenadiers it sounds to me like they'd fit with the role Catachans have in game, special weapons, go ahead and die to stop your army from dying too. In other words if i use Grenadiers for Stormtroopers what do i use for Catachans? Also:
Forgot about that, Korps are pushed back a bit more.PS: Dont forget to swap the Inquisitor Stormtroopers with Kasrkins. And the Kasrkin helmet for Lord General. -hehe- ^^
The Ammo straps are indeed rank unlocks, i'm rank... Uh... Something in the beta, the guardsmen with googles are the heavy weapon team guys, and they got their helmet replaced with the one with googles from CR, etc, etc. Rank unlocks concerning the armor and heads where changed too.
And here's the Dai Gurren Badge:
Badges are put in documents/mygames/dowIIretributionbeta/badges
Thanks alot for the badge! I had that one in DoW1. -hehe- But wont fit well with my Black/Blue colours. But can always make a Red one. ^^
Edit: I know I request alot lately. =( But if its not too much to ask, could you add Kaskrin helmets for Guardsmen, would be epic and my amry complete. Also for Heavy Weapon teams + sergant upgrade-units.
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Just out of curiosity, how does one implement randomization in squads? Or do you just make many different members, so one squad will "look" randomized, but every squad of that same type will have the same members? Or is there a way to truly randomize the models used in a squad?
I was thinking about those aswell, but it did not feel like they could "replace" the Catachan's work on the field as commandos.
Randomisation is done by modding. Essentially you have entities (squad members) and it now basically says 6XGuardsman entity. You would have to create a different one for each random option, then change it so 1XGM1, 1XGM2, 1XGM3, ect.
Kaptin Bliddflagg Portrait
P.S. Without aditional rank 60 details on portrait, because with those mouthparts claws small portraits will be massed with a lot details. Without them it's more clear
P.P.S. There have been wrong link to .module file. Link is fixed now and there are correct sga archive with Kaptin Bluddflagg portrait instead warboss
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Thanks for your reply, Shuma. Looking forward to the Kasrkins then
My knowledge about Krieger fluff is very limited unfortunately, wish I could add some more constructive suggestions. Still, I trust the final result will look fantastic no matter which path you take.
Well, Shuma, if I may make a suggestion (and honestly, a request as well) for an alternative look to the Catachans (and please, feel free to let me know if you believe it's a bad idea)...
I think you could get away with using Savlar Chem Dogs for Catachans. Here's why:
Chem Dogs are a regiment on their own, much like Catachans, but because of their noteworthy abilities at fighting in close quarters and experience against Orks (similarly to Catachans), it would be easily justifiable that they would be "on-loan" in the same fashion as the Devils, especially considering just how expendable they are (while remaining extremely deadly, thanks to the liberal use of combat drugs). They're sneaky (Devils' ability to cloak in tier 2 with Sarge), they've been known to employ explosives to great effect, they could have the same resistance to flame weapons as they get just as much "exposure to Promethium" as Catachans, and best of all with their rebreathers they'd match with the Kriegers a bit better than the vanilla maskless Catachans.
Interesting story from 40k canon concerning the Chem Dogs in a fight against the Orks... they once stole a Leman Russ, loaded it with high explosives, and somehow tricked an Ork Big Mek into "trading" for it. Sometime later, the explosion caused a chain reaction with the unstable Ork tech that managed to wipe out the entire Ork base. They returned to their own base, hailed as heroes by their fellows, and then promptly executed by the Commissar for deserting and theft of Imperial property.
The best thing is that being ex-convicts (you can think of them as an entire regiment of Dirty Dozen types that have agreed to receive training and fight for the Emperor in exchange for loot and a sort of freedom) that mostly "appropriate" their gear from other regiments through shady means, you could model them however you like. Essentially the only running theme they seem to have in most artwork depicting them are bald heads (or short prison-appropriate haircuts anyway), an arrow tattooed onto their foreheads (marking them as former prisoners I would think), and clunky, often obsolete rebreather equipment. However they've also been depicted (mostly by fans I think) wearing regular fatigues, boiler suits, or dusters/trenchcoats. Basically, the sort of clothing you'd expect soldiers specialized in warfare in hazardous, post-apocalyptic settings to wear.
Coincidentally I think you could easily get away with just retexturing a regular Cadian or Storm Trooper body and the Chaos heretic's head. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...s_portrait.png
Maybe add some goggles if you felt inclined.
So, what do you think?
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Whats wrong with heretics head?
What about stormtroopers - waiting model replacement from Shuma. From me - new stormtroopers portraits soon (there will be portraits from CR)
Nothing wrong with the Heretic head, Existor, I just said that if he decides that the Chem Dogs are a good idea, he could probably easily make the head for the unit by retexturing the Heretic head. You know, add the arrow, make the eyes normal.
I also mentioned the Storm Trooper body because, well, it kind of resembles a boiler suit. All he'd have to do is make it team-colourable, and voila.
I mean, those suggestions are just for potential kit-bashing, if he decides it's a worthwhile idea.
You mean portrait? Or unit model? If portrait, I can make new portrait, but need first to see new model, if Shuma will make it.
P.S. I think, they're ok now
The story was actually about Jopall officers, during war for Armageddon, trading basilisk to ork warlord, blowing it up and wiping large part of ork artillery. But you almost got it right.Originally Posted by VT08
Oh darn. Jopall? Really?
I could've sworn I read that about Chem Dogs.
Ah well, learn something new.
I strongly suggest everyone stops hosting images on photobucket, all images are gone; there are threads from years ago that still have images hosted on imageshack and other image hosting sites...
Thread loses a lot of charm the way it is...
Hey guys, I'm having a problem with the BeautyGuard.sga and the DSMVHelmet.sga files. I did what the installation guide showed but I can't launch the Beta. Whenever I click the Retribution Beta's launcher, Steam just takes me to the Dawn of War 2 Retribution Steam product page. Did I do something wrong?
Nevermind, got it working now. I just had Steam verify the integrity of the game cache and it worked!
Last edited by IGBoy; 4th Feb 11 at 8:53 PM. Reason: Problem Solved
"Faith is my SHIELD, my fury is my SWORD!!!"
No it's not randomization, it's just different entities in a squad. If Randomization is possible in DoW II like it was in DoW I i don't know how it works.
Already did, Guardsmen get the Kasrkin mask as a rank unlock, rank 12 iirc.
Ah but then we have the problem of "I like Catachan more than this guys" I think i'll simply make 2 versions, one where Catachans are replaced by Grenadiers and Stormtroopers are something new, and one where Catachans are left as they are and Stormtroopers are replaced by Grenadiers, everyone's happy.
And yeah i'm changing to imageshack, i just haven't got the time to make the change.
Last edited by Shuma; 4th Feb 11 at 10:24 PM.
It's for Comissar? Cool! So there are request for peoples. Please, send me via invite good arts or faces with those Death Korps guys. I'm not that good in warhammer universe, so need your help with portraits of those Death Korps
Alright, Shuma, I can understand that.
What are the chances of at least getting a version of Catachans with rebreathers?
OMG Shuma! The Helmet mods are better then I could imagen! Your a GOD! -falls to my knees- Thx alot. ='D
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