Ultimate Apocalypse - 1.72.5 Released!

**Cylarne_04** · 18th Oct 10 3:43 PM

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The Apocalypse mod Grand Release is now available for download below!
We're accepting donations, the donations are very appreciated and optional, as it will speed up the progress of this mod by a lot. Thank you!

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Description:
The Apocalypse mod team proudly presents to the audience and fans of Dawn of War, a two year long waited content filled and epic release of all time, the Ultimate Apocalypse mod Grand Release, 2012. In production unreleased to the crowd for a long time, the Apocalypse mod Alpha Internal, the "mother of the Grand Release" was reworked towards the extreme. Featuring dozens of new content, no other mod will have, this mod lets you do the unthinkable unlike any DOW mod. Do you imagine the largest Warhammer40k scale battles topped with balance for all races? Do you ever want to experience your spine throttling like crazy with good feelings over, and over, and over? Do you hate having your squads limited by Relic's balance system? Do you want to see your enemies nuked by the abilities of your own superweapon, or steamroll them with many titans fighting other titans with complete balance? This is your mod. This is one of the best DOW mods.

Furthermore, this mod has the better gameplay, feel, and epic features that no other mod can ever match, with facts supported, a flawless 9.8/10 review compared to other DOW mods that only reach up to a 9.5/10 rating. And this was rated for the beta. The Grand Release is available now, today! Below is the trailer of this mod, watch it, and let your mind get blown!

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Please put your volume on highest possible. No sound, no watch. You have been warned!

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Ultimate Apocalypse Terms of Use

Apocalypse Mod Team

News - Very Important!

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12/20/12 - The Grand Release Released!
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THE ULTIMATE APOCALYPSE MODS REQUIRES ALL TITANS!
If you see any titan new in any mod, please notify us IMMEDIATELY. Our modo is: Obtain all Warhammer40k Titans!

Want To Play Online?
Go here or... 'The Veiled Region' Server Room is open. It is a server room within the DOW multiplayer online.

Last words of Krronus - The one who started it all!

Credits goes to...

- Corsix's Mod Studio - Mostly thanked for making Apocalypse possible.
- Firestorm Over Kronus (FOK) - For pretty much everything, I mean seriously, many hugs and kisses from me.
- Purgation Over Kaurava (POK) - For the later new everything stages of FOK.
- Titanium Wars Mod (GrOrc): Apocalypse mod uses a lot of ready-made files and gameplay ideas from Titanium Wars Mod. Thanks to GrOrc.
- Tyranid Mod Team - For their permissions in creating XP2, involving the Tyranids.
- Daemonhunters - For their permissions in the making of XP2, involving the Daemonhunters.
- Thudmeizer - For a lot of things in our mod, especially ai scripts and tons of help. Corrected major SCAR errors with the addition of updating the ai to a current date and created the Daemons race especially, which is HUGE. - AI master, friend.
- Warsmith - For his well made Chaos Reaver Titan and the use of some of his material in the Dark Prophecy mod. Many thanks ESPECIALLY for our Chaos Reaver, kitbashed with nice Chaos properties by Warsmith, model made by Cosmocrat.
- Corncobman - For A LOT of FOK's material from Soulstorm, referenced from his mod and very helpful.
- Steel Legion Team (For their fxs, stromsword, and Stormblade)
- boychaos - For being a long time fan of this mod, and making his models useable for the Ultimate Apocalypse mod.
- Warsmith - For turning our Reaver Titan into a Chaos model, some of Warsmith's permissions and models used in the Daemons mod, and making the DP mod.
- Zany Reaper - For the TTRU mod models.
- Winterdyne - For the use of the Warhound Titan, also very kindly gave us permission himself.
- Catwell - For the Great Unclean One playable in version 1.62+.
- Fuggles - For his SCAR that proves his worth and for letting us use his Kronus map 1.2 and winconditions in this mod with the heart for making this mod compatible with his work. Much gratitude!
- MonkeyXXL - For awesome new textures, OE code, new models, awesome screenies and making the XV9 Hazard Suit. Well missed x team member.
- Andrei - For the tyranid turret and upcoming new units for Apocalypse mod post 1.62.5 + Brass Scorpion.
- Malarz Batonu (Universum Mod) - For many pretty cool features useable for the Apocalypse mods.
- deathwatch78 - For lots of assistance and providing us with new stuff for the Grand Release.
- Hanov - For his work on mod version 1.62.535+ while I finish the Grand Release.
- Gerberman's mod. - For any of the fx's within our mod.
- Soulstormfan for the UA taskbars.
- Jazz-Sandwitch - for the XP3 ucs revamp
- Whiteshield - for new Team Colorables.
- Berzerker101 on MOD DB - For all of your Tyranid VO's for the XP2 mod. They were amazing.
- IronWarrior42 - For his code of clever, oh and lots of help. It is great to have him at my assistance.
- DOWPro Team - For their good fxes, icons and new units.
- Jaylo - For the keen Heroes win condition.
- Ravenmorpheus - For the wargear useable for all commanders within the mod.
- Cuttershane - for his win conditions.
- Evil Isador - For the Switched reality SCAR.
- Zany Reaper - For high quality good models used in the Apocalypse mod.
- Uber Painter Mod (1.1) - For new Paint scheme templates.
- SYLPH 117 Hacker - For new awesome bolter/weapon sounds for Space Marines.
- Craftworld mod by ShinGouki - For special thanks one in all for the Eldar.
- Echo - For new units in the version 1.7 mod.
- Everyone for reading the credits, and taking an interest in this fine mod.
- Everyone for your welcomed downloads.

Team Credits

Map makercredits goes to...

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Extra texture credits goes to...

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Last but not least, donate if you would like to!

Why provide donations? To sum it all up, you get lots of stuff from us, including a continued campaign that is yet unfinished and loads of support and mod fixes.

Those who provide donations will keep the UA team alive, active to continue developement of this mod, and by donating, the creators of this mod will provide further updates to the crowd along with new requests from donators and audiences. On top of this, there is an unfinished campaign; so if donations become available to the UA team, the campaign can one day be finished! If no donations are provided, the mod will no longer be worked on as it is time to move on from it almost completely. If no donations... things that should be completed will never be completed because it is not the passion anymore that keeps us going. We have explored it all, we love this mod, but not enough anymore to work for free. If donations are applied, it keeps us going, and it gives reason to work on this mod again, and again, depending on the types of donations and count.

This is no requirement, you are not paying for this mod, it is all optional, but very appreciated.

Donators of this mod are...

**DannyLee94** · 18th Oct 10 11:43 PM

Cant wait for the mod there bud. And you should be given honours for taking on such a task at such short notice. Senior Member Here ^^^^

Seriously good luck im sure youll do fine and live up to the legend

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**Lleman** · 18th Oct 10 11:52 PM

What if you first posted that warnings.log we've told you about? This would certainly help solve your problems re. that 1.xx.xx version you guys have permanently crashing. Location is in the SS root folder, easy as pie.

**Cosmocrat** · 19th Oct 10 8:54 AM

Ok lads thanks to Cylarne_04, who forced me to make my next turn ^^, comes another potential Apocalypse developer (It seems the Apocalypse mod beeing a juicy piece of raw meet everybody's fightin for Oo) I started to further "evolve" Krronus work 3 weeks ago and Renamed it (Just internally for myself) Ultimate Apocalypse. This is now somehow an hairy situation because another lad got actually the same idea like me ^^. In care of that i want to offer my help where's possible to you Cylarne_04 maybe you can team up with me to speed things up ^^. So you lads might wonder mow where all these new Modders come from outta the ground. So i was workin quietly in the Background to set everything up und gather first experiences in Modding, because i'am of the opinion that new games rather lack the kind of Gameplay you can get come to light by modding your favourite game!

But now let me show, what i was workin the last 3 weeks:

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And last but not least comes a new creation of me I think nobody of you seen before. Its task is basically beeing an Gameender/Red Button/Win through Economy and/or a Shoop Da Whoop. Because i think, every game should have the option for a final Unit that solves the problem of how getting rid of all those pesky units, that are closing in to bash your base, cause ur allies were too weak or sacrificed themself for the Surival of one Player. My Plan is actually to introduce this kind of Unit to each Race as an VERY Expensive option to wipe all these Red Dots from the Minimap away.
So are you ready to charge your lazors? Yes? Good! Here come the first Renders of my self-made (First Model ever build from scratch by me) Gameender Unit delivered to the Necrons (They really need more Units)

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In this sense i end up here hoping that my debut in this Elder Moddingscene is appreciated and that Cylarne_04 tosses an pm over to me showing what he already get ^^
Don't wonder if I can't reply too often because of studies takin my time in Universitiy :S

Greetings and a good Day

-Cosmocrat

**Cylarne_04** · 19th Oct 10 2:52 PM

To: Cosmocrat- I left you a PM dude.

Let's team up!

To: DannyLee- Hey thanks dude. Touching words I admit. I will definitely finish the Apocalypse one day.

By the date of 12/20/10, I have. Mwahahahahaha!

To: Lleman- Here it is. Oh yes.

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16:52:36.66 SOULSTORM started at 2010-10-19 16:52
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16:53:10.40 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'DXP2\Locale\english\Data'.
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16:53:10.40 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'W40k\Locale\english\Data'.
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**DannyLee94** · 20th Oct 10 11:43 PM

I suggest you put titans in campaign, and maybe actual titans (warhound), id speak to winterdyne for the textures and army colours. Also instead of giving Tzeentch the power of corruption (same as Slaanesh), give Tzeentch a lightning storm (trust me its different to warp storm).

Just some suggestions

**Cosmocrat** · 21st Oct 10 5:11 AM

So I actually don't care about the Imperials in the campaign, but the Necrons definitely got their titan (The Doomsday Monolith) also in the campaign as I played them during my vacation wiping all the the others away with a Pylon, Doomsday Mono and a load of smaller Monos. Believe me it was not fun for the Orcs, Eldar, SoB, Imperials and SM beeing crushed under the iron foot of my Necron Army! Simply try it out and if the Imperials or any other don't get their Titan working just toss a post in here and we'll see how we can serve you ;-). As for you second Idea I agree with you, because having two times the same ability for two different Chaos Mark is always i bit...odd. I think it was rather an emergency solve and we'll see how we can bring that to life! If you have more ideas, feel free to list them up here that we can get them In-Game as freshly as possible

Have a good Day

-Cosmocrat

**DannyLee94** · 21st Oct 10 9:43 AM

Sorry im confused regarding the Titans.

You say that the Necs have their Titan, i.e. The Doomsday Monolith, but what do the other races have to match that. Its just come into my head that the original Monoliths are already crazily powerful and the Pilon is in itself a beacon of destruction. How are the other races going to compete (balance-wise) with this onslaught? So, what are the other race's Titans and Super Units?

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Regarding the Tzeentch Power of Corruption:

The Titanium Wars Mod has a Tzeentch Lightning Storm which workd quite nicely. Im sure if you asked, GrOrc (Mod Creator) would let you use it either perminantly or as a template/WIP. IMO, that would be 10x better than using Corruption twice.

BTW Good Luck with this mod guys.

**Cylarne_04** · 21st Oct 10 11:52 AM

All races have Tier III Titans and Tier V Titans. You can see all of the superweapons and titans within the version 1.58 readme of every race. Necrons I do find slightly unbalanced but easily fixable, I mean when we're experts. I'll work on the Lightning Storm.

Ok, darn I bugged the thing as I was doing the marks. Sorry. It will get done. I pmed Grorc for the Lightning Storm.

**DannyLee94** · 21st Oct 10 11:59 PM

Nice 1 for the reply and its good to see you guys are always working and taking suggestions

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Also any chance of seeing the readme without actual downloading the mod?

I just havent got enough space in my C: drive at the moment, i think im just going to download the updated version when the mod is finished.

**Cosmocrat** · 22nd Oct 10 7:18 AM

So DannyLee94 here comes as requested the excerpt of the readme.txt of the Apocalypse: Actual version 1.58 (the last stable public release of Krronus) to show you what this mod actually has to offer for you without having your Hardrive beeing bombed by unnecessary additional 500MB'S

. But i don't know if that helps if you read that readme and go crazy after the Mod wanting it so badly . As a last chance to return I'll pack it all in spoiler brackets to avoid possibly driving you nuts

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GAME DEVELOPEMENT
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BASIC DESCRIPTION:

- The Apocalypse mod was designed to make the Dawn of War series look epic.
- The gameplay is extraordinary and definitely worth the download.
- The Apocalypse brings out the never before played onto an all new level of command and conquer.
- In comparison between the Apocalypse and Dawn of War: Soulstorm, the Apocalypse disables most of the limits.
- With that in mind, it brings out the stuff you can't do in Dawn of War: Soulstorm.
- The Apocalypse also demonstrates the epicness of combat and the advantages of tiering up.
- Though not entirely infinite compared to the Apocalypse: Total Destruction expansion, the "Actual" so it is to be called balances out the entire gameplay.
- Compared to the other versions of the Apocalypse, this mod is more balanced and comes with newer attributes and outstanding sound effects.
- The battlefield is more enhanced and the base defenses that you all had hoped for are far more improved.
- If you want non stop action, then you're downloading or you have downloaded the right mod.

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Version 1.59 Flaws:

- Everything changed and will take some getting used to.
- Only a few minor corrections may still be taking place within this mod.
- If you find anything unusual, contact me please and I will change up the problems later on.

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Version 1.19 Flaw Fixes:

- Predator Tanks no longer fire every second with invalid shots.
- Games can be long or short now, or possibly in the middle of long and short.
- Playable in the campaign.
- HQ superweapon activation glitch.
- Deceiver Grand Illusion crash.
- ai corrections.
- ai superweapon spawning more than once.
- Fixed up Titan Wars win condition unfairness.
- Necron Lord enemy vehicle cover bonus removed.
- Dawn of War Harlequin glitch that resets resources.

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Files Included:

- Apocalypse Readme.
- Apocalypse Logo.
- Apocalypse screenshot logo.
- Apocalypse directory.
- Apocalypse module.
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GAME DATA: VERSION 1.58 - 1.59 UDATES
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Global:
- Tier costs for tiers I II and III were restored to normal.
- Tier IV and V costs were slightly reduced.
- Turret upgrades display correctly for all races.
- Tier VI and all abilities along with it requires 1 relic and 1 critical location.
- Tier VI now costs 10000/10000. req./power.

Chaos:
- Chaos Lord summoning in ui index fixed.
- Plague Marines, Noise Marines, Bloodletters and Plague Bearers = squad cap of 3.
- Chaos Defiler now costs 200/300 instead of 175/305.
- Defiler melee damage increased.

Dark Eldar:
- The Dark Eldar no longer needs control zones to build buildings.
- Dark Eldar Dais of Destruction was statistically redone.

Eldar:
- Wraithguard cost changed from 150/50 to 125/50.

Guard:
- Orgryns weapon in melee now effects vehicle_med and higher armor types.
- Warhound Titan was redone and the stats. was slightly improved.

Necrons:
- Necron Pylon's Particle Accelerator deals more damage.
- Grand Illusion Monolith now disappears after summoning.

Orks:

Sisters:

SM:
- Hellfire Dreadnought pink icon after twin lascannon was fixed.

Tau:
- XV8 and XV81 Crisis Suit maximum and minimum loadout changed to 3.
- Hammerhead Gunship support cap = 4 instead of 3.
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GAME DATA: VERSION 1.19 - 1.58 UDATES
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Global:
- Is now campaign playable.
- Weapon piercings match simular to the codex.
- New units, structures, research, upgrades, effects, abilities, win conditions, maps, and army painter badges were added.
- Army Painter was updated and can now view leader units.
- All races can tier up to tier VI now.
- Most commanders with the Tier VI research completed can place nukes onto the battlefield.
- All races can now build advanced buildings within the advanced build option.
- Advanced buildings are: Mines, turrets, hqs, unique buildings.
- Structure build outline color changed to red.
- Commander Wargear changed from single wargear options to whole.
- Most vehicles explode after death.
- Camera has been improved.
- All resource caps are set to 500/400.
- All Superweapon hq glitches no longer exsist.
- Improved all superweapons.
- Superweapons now require a relic.
- Tier IV time cost reduced from 180 seconds to 120 seconds.
- Squads with a maximum loadout of 5 were increased to 6.
- All HQ's give out a 35m radius instead of 30. - Sight = 32.
- All race's addons/research of tiering up are set within HQ. Tier V and VI requires the Super HQ.
- Removed standard turret research that makes them all stronger. Instead, tiering up makes them stronger.
- Grenades can now target vehicles but is preferred infantry.
- Grenades recharge time = 10 seconds. Costs 20 power.
- Anti-vehicle grenades recharge time = 15, costs 50 power.
- Generators explode every time now.
- Obliterators and Terminators no longer take a long time to teleport from one destination to the next.
- Power Generators = 150.
- Turret/power size back to normal.
- Listening Posts = 100.
- Builder unit limit to 8.
- Mines cost decrease.
- All addons are 50 requisition for building units.
- Critical Location no build buffer extended to 2.
- Critical Location resource amounts doubled.
- All commanders including the secondary commanders require no squad cap or population if Orks.
- Decreased the maximum and minimum damage for Tau Stealth Suit Fusion Blasters and Ork Tankbusta Rokkit Launchas by half.
- The ai are tons stronger now. (Good luck with Insane)
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Chaos:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Corruption
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Nuke
Tier III Titan: Chaos Land Raider
Tier V Titan: Daemon Prince

New units:
Chaos Land Raider
Chaos Dreadnought
Chaos Terminator
Chaos Noise Marine
Chaos Plague Marine
Bloodletters
Plague Bearers

- Plague Marines now move very quickly.
- Bloodthirsters are now very tough daemons but require 4 support cap.
- Rhino Transport limit = 4.
- tier II LP addon cost change from 265/155 to 250/155.
- Obliderator toughness and cost increased and require tier III.
- Chosen Terminators replace Obliterators.
- Second requisition research change from 75/350 to 100/350.
- Bloodthirster piercing type increased against commanders.
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Dark Eldar:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Soulstorm
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Apocalyptic Soulstorm
Tier III Titan: Captured Baneblade
Tier V Titan: Dais of Destruction

New Units:
Captured Baneblade
Captured Whirlwind
Slave Cannibalizer

- Dark Eldar Gruesome Display is now an available addon on all buildings.
- Slave Chamber Morale damage decreased.
- Slave Chamber physical damage removed.
- Reduced Soul Shock ability damage.
- Increased range of Warrior and Scourger weapons.
- Increased effectiveness versus vehicles for all distentegrators.
- Increased damage to all Dark Eldar weapons.
- Armor type changed for Warriors and Scourgers.
- Dark Eldar ability time cost decrease by half excluding the Soulstorm.
- Moved Wyches to Whych Cult Arena.
- Inserted Hellions into the Hall of Blood.
- Slave Chambers = 125 requisition.
- Dark Eldar Slave Chamber Soulshock addon = 50/25.
- Grenades reduce morale tremendously.
- Soulstorm lasts much longer.
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Eldar:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Eldritch Storm
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Nuke/Soul Stone
Tier III Titan: Avatar of Khaine
Tier V Titan: Scorpion Supertank

New units:
Nightspinner
Scorpion Supertank
Wraithguard
Nightwing Bomber
Harlequins

- Bonesinger squad attack range added.
- Farseer Phsycestone wargear no longer insanely increases the health regeneration of herself even though it does increase her health regeneration.
- Warp Spider Exarch Superior was removed and replaced with the Seer Council.
- Seer Council weapon damage increase.
- Increase all weapon damages and ranges.
- Grav Platform adjustments.
- Gravitic Boost and Fleet of Foot adjustments.
- resource research II on power and req. must require tier two.
- Second Listening Post addon displays correctly.
- Eldar improved knife damage.
- Shroud cost = 100/100.
- Avatar of Khaine health regeneration decrease.
- Minimum armor remove.
- Weaken Mind War and Pshycic Storm abilities.
- 1 Eldar leader per squad.
- Turrets cost 50/25 because of the size.
- Warp Spider Grenades move to Soul Shrine.
- Fire Prisms cap at four.
- Increase sight ranges for Fire Prisms.
- Fleet of Foot Research permanently increases the movement speeds of Eldar troops. Required tier2 research.
- Fleet of Foot cost = 100/100.
- Gravitic Booster research was added and increases movement speed of all vehicles.
- Gravitic Boosters = 150/150.
- Relocation Matrix adjustment for relocating.
- Fire Dragons attachable.
- Always on Shroud Ability.
- Bonesinger teleportation adjustments.
- Warlock research move to Soulshrine.
- Remove all squad spawners from Webway Gates.
- Remove Scorpion Tank shields.
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Guard:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Strafing Run
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Nuke
Tier III Titan: Baneblade
Tier V Titan: Warhound Titan

New units:
Warhound Titan

- Grenade Launchers range decreased.
- Enginseers now correctly is set to stand ground stance.
- Enginseer armor type changed to infantry_low.
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Necrons:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Greater Resurrection
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Global Resurrection
Tier III Titan: Necron Pylon
Tier V Titan: Restored Doomsday Monolith

New units-
Siege Monolith
Restored Doomsday Monolith
Doomsday Necron Warriors
Necron Pylon
Flyer Attack Scarabs

- Disabled Tomb Spyders spawn on game start.
- Tomb Spyder limit to 5.
- Pylon cover removed.
- Doomsday Monolith entity changed, allowing it to travel through medium spaces.
- Doomsday Monolith was drastically changed and renamed to Restored Doomsday Monolith.
- It now can use abilities.
- Destroyers, Heavy Destroyers and the Lord Destroyer can move through small passages without getting stuck.
- Attack Scarab armor changed to infantry_high.
- Restored Monoliths only require Energy Core.
- Restored Monolith requirement 0.5 health and more.
- Necron Restored Monoliths are now elite units and cost 650 power each.
- Tier IV Research: increases Monolith speed.
- Tier IV research no 10/10 modifier fixed.
- Greater Summoning Cores now produce Attack Scarabs and Siege Monoliths.
- Greater Summoning Cores no build buffer changed to 2.
- Necron HQ addons no longer increases the power of the Necron Lord.
- Removed Forbidden Artifact and replaced research with new ones within Forbidden Archive.
- Forbidden Archive adjustments. Limit : 0.
- Ctan research placed within Forbidden Archive.
- Upgrade Lord 1, Upgrade Lord 2, Ctan research. At: 4,8,12.
- Category 1: Chronometron, Skip 2, Skip 3.
- Category 2: Solar Pulse, Mass Resurrection, Veil of Darkness.
- Category 3: Phase Shift, lightning Field, Nightmare Shroud.
- Lord Destroyer are now hero units.
- Old Doomsday Monolith which was the "Grand Illusion" was restored along with the Deceiver's powers.
- Pariah health decreased.
- Necron Warriors health decreased.
- Grand Illusion health at 5000.
- Grand Illusion teleportation removed.
- Necron Listening Post Costs 30 power.
- Necron Listening Posts Addon 1 costs 60 power.
- Necron Listening Post Addon II costs 120 power.
- Plasma Generator time cost increase to 6 seconds. Build time start at 45 seconds.
- Restore cost time for buildings.
- Necron Lord Wargear regeneration for Carapace decreased.
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Orks:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Bombs
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Nuke
Tier III Titan: Squiggoth
Tier V Titan: Upgraded Squig

New units:
Lootas

- Removed Warboss upgrade for population increase.
- Bombs superweapon creates many bombs instead of one.
- Decreased damage on all bombs by 1/4.
- Kan armor changed to vehicle_med.
- Bad Dok limit = 4.
- Warboss changed to Da Boyz Hut.
- Tankbusta research no longer requires Gretchin research.
- Tankbust slot change from slot 5 to 6.
- Cost population modifier for tier iv fixed.
- Limit Waagh Banners to 9 with 10 pop each.
- Total pop = 500.
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Sisters:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Witch Hammer
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Nuke
Tier III Titan: Living Saint
Tier V Titan: Upgraded Saint

New units:
Avenging Angels

- req. research two change to 100/350.
- HQ ability unfortunately removed.
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Space Marines:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Orbital Bombardment
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Nuke
Tier III Elites: Land Raider Redeemer
Tier V Elites: Land Raiders

New units:
Redeemer
Devastators
Razorback

- Hellfire Twin Linked cannon upgrade added.
- II LP addon = 250/155 instead of 260/155.
- Predators glitch removed.
- Apothecary limit changed back to 4.
- Skull Probe limit = 6.
- Rhino Transport limit = 4.
- Grey Knights Inquisition ability now has a global recharge.
- Orbital Relay blast explosion on impact added.
- Slots = 5 instead of 10.
- Land Raiders can only carry one to two units now.
- Land Raiders can now be produced as an elite unit, allowing more Land Raiders to be requisitioned.
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Tau:
End Game Priorities...
Superweapon: Air Caste Strike
Apocalyptic Superweapon: Nuke
Tier III Titan: Greater Knarloc
Tier V Structure: Arka Ion Cannon

New units:
XV89 Commander
XV81 Broadsides
XV81 Crisis Battlesuit
Piranha
Deepstrike Drones

- Crisis suits = cap of 4.
- Second requisition and power researches require tier II.
- Ethereal on death damage to all buildings and units removed.
- Shield Drone Activation always on but are more expensive.
- XV81 Broadside Rail Guns can now knock down enemy troops.
- Drone Harbingers' support cap increased from 3 to 4.
- All Broadsides, Crisis Suit units and Krootoxs' can move through small passages without getting stuck.
- Tier II requires the Kauyon Commandpost.
- Costs 400/400.
- Tier III requires the Mont'Ka Commandpost.
- Costs 600/600.
- Tier IV requires the Coalition Center.
- Costs 800/800.

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Have good Day

-Cosmocrat

**Cylarne_04** · 22nd Oct 10 5:17 PM

Woah! Uh oh, Advanced Overwatch win condition error! HHHHHEEEELLLLLPPPPPP!!!

Well anyways, the mod is now in working condition and... two thumbs up. Thanks Cosmocrat for doing that for DannyLee. Anything else you request DannyLee94?

**Cosmocrat** · 23rd Oct 10 4:45 AM

So as i promised earlier I'll provide today the evidence of my actual work on the Gameenders which are the last step to purge you enemy off the map if anything else has failed. It will be incredible strong and capable of dealing with overwhelming amounts of enemys. And when i mean overwhelming then i mean when you play on insane against 4 opponents with fully reinforced armies to max. on respective Unit cap. In this case you won't usually win with PC allies because you gonna get unit spammed to death. But even im Human vs. Human games could arise the need for such an Unit if the game is stuck in a stalemate. In this case building this unit will get you the ulimative advantage and your enemies actually staring at an unstoppable Fortress raining death onto their armies blasting them into oblivion within secons but for a very expensive price.

Here it comes:

Spoiler

As an advise for you Cylarne_04 if you have problems with the SCAR who you gonna call? The TRIOLITH!

Else have a good day

-Cosmocrat

**DannyLee94** · 24th Oct 10 2:49 AM

Nope im fine.. for now

. Just waiting intently for the completed version. Id probably be more happy if every race had its own actual Titan. Ya'know:

Chaos - Feral Scout Titan (doesnt have own model, is generally warhound with different colours and symbols)
Imperial Guard - Warhound Scout Titan (done)
Space Marines - Warhound Scout Titan (done)
Eldar - Revenant Scout Titan
Orkz! - Stompa (done, on some mods)
T'au - Captured Warhound Titan (done, just a warhound with Tau colour scheme)
Necrons - Doomsday Monolith (done)

But i suppose theres just not enough good artists and modellers in the DOW community nowadays and it seems that Winterdyne mostly works alone and is done making Titans.. but we can all dream, can we not?

**Cosmocrat** · 24th Oct 10 5:19 AM

So hey DannyLee94 don't get your hopes burrowed too early. In front of you stands a modeller that has basically the same wishes like you seeing the Titans coming to life in DoW. I actually agree of each race having it's own unique titan.
But i don't want to see too many Warhounds stompin around. So my idea actually was instead of a captured Warhound titan for the Tau I played with the idea of having a Tau Air Caste Manta beeing fielded which is think more the style Tau Titans would be. For the other Titans i have to say that we want to add a sort of Gameender Units. That means units with the size of Reaver Titans and above but smaller than an Emperor Titan which is actually a size overkill xD. I though of Warlord Titans beeing quite good choice for Gameender Unit. For the Necrons I made an custom Gameender Unit which render pics I posted here yesterday but somehow my Post is missing in action :S I'll try to post hem again today but if it fails again maybe Cylarne_04 could post them, as i don't know why it struggles with posts with pics.

Have a good Day

-Cosmocrat

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So here comes the announced Triolith Gameender Unit of the Necrons. The task of Gameenders will be to wipe entire Armies away from the Map within seconds. And with entire Armies I mean min. 4 PC opponents on insane with fully reinforced armies to respective pop limits. And acutally capable of spamming you to death with units through huge bases. It also comes to effect in stalemate situations. For example you can hold your Stronghold but you're unable to get out of your base without beeing wiped. Then the Gameender comes at hand making it possible, if you got the ressources in spare ;-), to finally achieve an heroic and ultimate victory as your enemy has to stare at an unstoppable fortress of death blistering with weapons. I though furthermore of a control station build in your base providing a shield for your Unit making it additionally invulnerable for an additional bunch of ressources.
Maybe if it's possible for balancing issues we can link the control station to the Gameender so that if it gets destroyed the Gameender will be disabled as long you as you rebuild the Com Station. But these are future plans but now comes what you've been waiting for! Charge you Lazors and show your enemies who's got the supremacy on the Battlefield!

Here it is take a breath before you're klicking at this!

Spoiler

Else have a good Day

-Cosmocrat

**Cosmocrat** · 24th Oct 10 5:41 AM

Ok something goes wrong here :S I posted a text earlier today and wanted then to post the pictures of my new Gameender Unit but something "devoures" my posts and even worse my post before was also deleted just after i pressed the submit button. So I don't know if I have rights to post pictures here or did any other kind of infringement so that my post was deleted automatically.

So i have to repost my earlier post from today xD. Don't burrow your dreams so early, infront of you stands a modeller with basically the same wishes as you so DannyLee94 I agree with you each race should have it's unique Titan. But for the Tau I've got the idea of fielding an Air Casta Manta instead of captured Warhound.
We also plan for the Gameender Units for the other race to field Titans with the size of a Reaver and above but below a Emperor Titan which is a size overkill xD. Something around a Warlord Titan would be fine i think let's see what is possible. Keep up tuned theres is more to come soon.

Have a good day

-Cosmocrat

**Lleman** · 24th Oct 10 6:06 AM

Pathing.. have you thought about pathing?
Reaver- & Warlord-sized titans and warmachines -"gameender units" as you call them- are fine and dandy, but they all require a good thinking about paths since most maps will only see them blocked in an area limited to the vicinity of their production point, if this is even feasible depending on the chosen location... (if you tell me 'Dyne has also planned Reavers & Warlords, i'll tell you he'd also planned specific maps...)

As to your former message, i saw it and even got an email notification for it... prolly a mismanipulation...

**Cosmocrat** · 24th Oct 10 6:32 AM

Yeah pathing was one of my sorrows i hoped i can push away to a distant day. But yeah it's right that pathing is real nasty even for way smaller units (you all know tanks beeing stucked together) not to think about that huge units as Titans. It's already very hard for a Warhound to get through akkumulations of Units. So theres two possible methods of getting rid of that. First one is the "clean" method of simply doing new maps of proper size for the huge war machines having enough place to manouver. Or the "dirty" method of manipulating the collision boxes and making the Unit actually "smaller" for the pathing calculator. It's just the problem of having odd intersections with the environment or even other units driving thorugh the actual unit. As for the movement for some of the gameender units planned so far is the possibly to Teleport or Jumppack around (Revenant). As for the Imperial Warlord Titan i am uncertain what i can do about that as it has no known ability of Teleportation or other kind of unusual movement. It would be cool if there would be a possibly to solve that like it was done in Star Craft II so that the Titans could move over Cliffs and like that, but it would also require new maps then or at least a rework of the existing ones to define areas where Titans actually can go over. If that all fails then it will be necessary to chose the "dirty" method of pathing. That would be a compromise between Optics and Gameplay, but if you want your dreams come true you have to sacrifice something ;-). We'll see if we can do it well enough that it won't look "too" ugly then but no one cares then. The game is simply not made for Epic Sized Gameplay ;-) but i think a little touch of Epicness is still better then nothing. I don't know how the others think about that so whoever feels hit by that topic is free to contribute his opinion here. I hope i am not too naive with my point of view then

Have a good Day

-Cosmocrat

P.S.: Could someone tell me where/why some of my posts disappear?

**Tyrantarmy6** · 24th Oct 10 7:11 AM

To solve the problem of getting stuck... give them the ability to walk over impasseble terrain. just like jump packs but then permamently and as walking. Maybe that would work.

Maybe your message dissapeard because of the size it got because of the picture. maybe instead of the picture put a link or something to it.

**Cosmocrat** · 24th Oct 10 7:49 AM

I thought of something similar to that Tyrantarmy6 but the problem ist the Imperial Warlord not having any possibility due fluff background to move in any other way than by his feet ^^. To my disappearing messages it would be an possible reason to be blocked or what because of the pic size. But you MUST use here external Links/URL's to other websites. So i made an Imageshack account to be able posting pics here und used the URL's provided by Imageshack :S. But when i press "Submit Post" complete with all pics it just stucks or gives me a short message, that a moderator has first to look through my post. But that was two days ago I dunno what's the workspeed here but 2 days is just a lil bit too long :S. I tried it again today but it again failed and even erased a former post i did before that one with the render pics. So I am somehow in a struggle now :S I've send the renders to Cylarne_04 that he may be succesfull posting them actually in this thread. Maybe I did something wrong here loading the pics up so help is apreciated ^^.

Have a good day

-Cosmocrat

**DannyLee94** · 24th Oct 10 11:29 AM

Thanks for the reply there Cosmo, i have to admit it would be amazing to see more than just scout titans and a game-ender for each race - so i wish you the greatest of luck. Just hope you can upload those photos so we can see exactly what your talking about.

**Cylarne_04** · 24th Oct 10 1:43 PM

Here they are...

Spoiler

The only problem is you can't click on them to enlarge them. Can someone tell me how?

**quelzoth** · 24th Oct 10 3:36 PM

Maybe the Titan pathing issues can be solved by making the game think its a flying unit? that way it will ignore terrain while moving, and will remain a constant "hight" above the terrain helping with graphics issues

**Cylarne_04** · 24th Oct 10 3:42 PM

Hmm. Yes but you would still have to shrink the Triolith for it to fit in with the camera. Unless I improve the camera...

**quelzoth** · 24th Oct 10 3:44 PM

I believe there was a post somewhere that showed you how to adjust the maximum camera range. Cant remember where i saw it tho

**Cylarne_04** · 24th Oct 10 3:50 PM

Well I'll fool with the camera, maybe bring it to uber view if I figure things out.

30 minutes to 1 hour later...
Nope sorry, ok where's the link?

**quelzoth** · 24th Oct 10 4:04 PM

this thread may help: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...=change+camera

**quelzoth** · 24th Oct 10 4:52 PM

It wont let me post the link for some reason... forums. relicnews. com/showthread.php? 82849-Reducing-fog-and-increaseing-camera-range&highlight=change+camera
(remove spaces)

**Cylarne_04** · 24th Oct 10 5:08 PM

Ok I retried after the moderators fixed up the things they needed done and it worked. Thanks quelzoth.

**quelzoth** · 24th Oct 10 9:33 PM

Glad to be of help

**Cylarne_04** · 25th Oct 10 1:40 PM

In case anyone didn't notice my above comment, here is the Triolith...

Spoiler

The only problem is you can't click on them to enlarge them. Can someone tell me how?

**Cosmocrat** · 26th Oct 10 4:02 AM

Hmm weird... I don't know what you've actually done to get these pics upped here. Usually if you use external sites, you're redirected there and will get it usually automatically shown enlarged or you atleast have the option to enlarge it then. Your solve makes just one picture enlargeable (by clicking the yellow warning sign) the others just hang around there and i don't knwo why. Maybe a Moderator could answer that question i don't care about the way pictures are handled in here

. Besides suggestions are welcome about the actual Triolith (The huge badass looking thing in the middle of the big pic) as diskussion actually stucked due technical problems

-Cosmocrat

**Cylarne_04** · 26th Oct 10 10:57 AM

I guess I got lucky.

I'll think about the Triolith ideas. Oh curious too. How much bigger is it compared to the Doomsday Monolith?

**Cosmocrat** · 27th Oct 10 12:45 PM

Ok i am now somehow stuck. I did the new animations for the Energy beacon and exported it all right but in-game is all i see a pink box with "Bad Model" an it. I seeked then a lil bit around here and edited the clauses and the condition for the building and still receive the bad model box. I don't know why because it actually played all anims fine in the OE but the Game itself somehow bonkers my model :S. I shifted the .whm and the .whe files plus the texture file from my creation folder to the actual Apocalypse folder. I don't know if i've forget to take a needed file but i thought that .whe/.whm/.rsh/.wtp files are the only needed art files huh? So i may post in the Technicssection in hope getting help there also. If anyone of you out there knows what's up plz write it in here as i am really confused now about my model :S.

-Cosmocrat

**Cylarne_04** · 27th Oct 10 1:36 PM

Hmm. Well I am no artist but if you by any chance changed up the ebps entity blueprint model from Corsix's Mod Studio then that can be the case.

Oh and guess what! I got mail. From whom? You'll see.

Spoiler

I received the letter today. And Krronus (1st developer of the Apocalypse Mods; In case you're new here.) will not be with us for a very long time. He's doing well however. I'll update the first post again eventually.

**Cosmocrat** · 28th Oct 10 8:14 AM

Good to know Krronus is still alive there ^^. I don't know in which country he actually followed the call of duty but military is always harder than sitting in front of the PC and doing duty rather with the mind than legs and arms ;-) ( I think both are same as hard if you just hit a certain difficulty ) . To return to my problem i actually DID change the entity_blueprint_ext simply with the Corsix manager xD. But i don't care as a previous model (Pylon Strike Beacon) was exported and implemented the same way. As i have to say that it was a rather simple model with no animations and it is spawned as an ability rather than be build. I hope you can tell me how to implement a new model .whm/.whe properly then as i dunno if my model is somehow corrupted/incomplete. If you the only way is the attribute editor stated in the Mod tools i got a problem as it doesn't work (the only one i did't managed get it work :S). In this case Cylarne_04 has to do the job of unit implementation for me then. But i still demand a tutorial for inserting new buildings as this is not covered in the tutorials list and i keep searching for a solve of my problem then in order to continue Modding progress.

Edit: Ok problem fixed. Animations and model working now. My next problem is, they are workin in an unexpected way xD. During the build progress the idle animation is played all the time and after its build it shows all the placement,placement_idle and build animation in a row :S. For the solution better don't ask what was the error reason. I just should stop working on mods during the night xD. But now i can sleep better ^^.

**Winterdyne** · 29th Oct 10 2:12 AM

The pathing issue with titans is largely unavoidable - especially when it comes to terrain, and specific maps are the order of the day - titans do not fight in alleys.

Friendly infantry move out of the way of vehicles, so they're not an issue. With enemy concentrations, a squiggoth-alike rampage ability was the best idea that was suggested.

Going back to the pathing issue - this was (is) a major factor in the balancing of my mod (if/when I get round to working on it some more) - titans having to stick to wide streets (especially the larger ones) whilst infantry could filter through ruins, take cover and generally wolfpack the titans and assassinate the repair units.

**Cosmocrat** · 29th Oct 10 4:53 AM

I actually also thought about that during the last few days. I've come to the conclusion that everything of the Size of a Warlord ( Don't know how big the Reaver is :S) and above would be hardly realisable without modding other things hard either. Furthermore i know that we already have a good solution for mass destruction if needed: The Apocalyptical Superweapons. Having a unit that does basically the same but in a higher speed might be abit unfunny as it also makes nukes rather redundant. Beside that i must admit that there are enough units which need to be done first, as the diversity of available Units should be raised as there's already enough IMBA stuff floating around. But none the less i am glad you care about us due sharing experiences and skills. But i may ask you for a certain thing... I've seen the actual Warhound and it lacks somehow of further work. I don't know how busy you are at the moment ( it's not better with me and my studies) but could you do me a favor and send me the Warhound .ebp/sound and texture files in a pm, as i am willing to give him new animations and FX to further "slice" it's edges away.The .ebp file i need for the purpose to speed things up and see how you did the clauses and conditions for the Warhound, as you cannot extract them from only the .whm/.whe files (Or I simply dunno how) because the tutorial section is rather "undersupplied". I hope that request don't bothers you. I hope you give some kind of sign soon in order that we may help eachother out. And maybe if you return modding some day you may want my Triolith for your purpose nobody knows as the ways of time can be sometimes...twisted

.

-Cosmocrat

P.S.: FINALLY! Yesterday late in the evening i've managed to implement the custom animations properly! So yay we'll about to have custom build animations from now for every building

**Lleman** · 29th Oct 10 6:03 AM

Regarding titans sizes, the Reaver is slightly smaller than the Warlord depending on the weapon systems mounted ont he carapace (the Warlord being, in turn, roughly twice the size of a Warhound). Dug up an old post from WD's Dogs of War thread concerning sizes.

As to the Warhound anims, if you're using the TTRU one, i think there's been some major improvement on it ages ago. Memory might be flawed though.

**DannyLee94** · 29th Oct 10 7:12 AM

For some reason, when i look upon those Titan designs - Armored Core enters my mind

. That reaver looks really good but its legs need to point more outwards; like this:

It will be brilliant if you can get the titans into the game (and hopefully campaign as well), but balancing would also be a pressing issue regarding those races that dont have those armaments: as far as i know the Tau arent so lucky, titan-wise.

**Cosmocrat** · 29th Oct 10 11:26 AM

Ak that's truly an epic sized piece of destruction! Thank you first for that pic (Why can't i send any pics?

) which shows really good the dimension of it (Maybe you could add the Warhound next to him just for comparsion

via Photoshop or something?). If he's not too big we may see him in future releases! But i actually dunno how that monstrous warmachine could be encountered. But that's a good opportunity to ask the followers of the way of the Apocalypse and any other who might help for a small thing. The problem is I need new artwork for the Super Fortresses. I already have some for the Chaos, Necrons and SoB but not for the others. My ask to you is that you may contribute some cool ideas for the other Race that may be implemented! To show you what exactly we need i have an example for you i would like to do for the Necrons http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-HZLorI1B0w/TH...0completed.jpg or for the Sisters http://www.edwud.com/photos/notre_dame.jpg. Now this is what I actually want! So if you have enough spare time and want have some buildings you actually ever wanted to be In-Game this is your moment of truth! Don't be shy here and post the hell outta the Net!
So i am waiting for your contributes but don't let me wait too long ;-)!

-Cosmocrat

**SpardaSon21** · 29th Oct 10 11:49 AM

@DannyLee94: The Tau don't need Titans when they have the TigerShark AX-1-0 and the Manta and their flying Titan-killing Heavy Railguns.

**DannyLee94** · 29th Oct 10 3:22 PM

@DannyLee94: The Tau don't need Titans when they have the TigerShark AX-1-0 and the Manta and their flying Titan-killing Heavy Railguns.

There you go then, you proved i know very little about the Tau's apocalyptic capabilities

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@Cosmocrat: I looked around a little bit and found these designs of the Warhound, Reaver and Warlord all together to emphasis the scaling. As i said the Reaver Battle Titan's legs are a bit.. off, they are too straight and should be pointing outwards like the artwork i posted earlier. Anyway here's the pic:

Heres another showing the heights of the Titans.. grid-style! Winterdyne hadnt finished some of the limbs on the Warlord at this point:

Heres the finished (sort of) Warlord Battle Titan:

And a final artwork depicting what im talking about regarding the Reaver's legs, they should be spaced-out in a wide, battle stance - like this:

Hope this helps, since i cant provide you with any modding back-up,
Danny.

**Winterdyne** · 29th Oct 10 3:48 PM

The legs in my models are straight for rigging. Very hard to align knee joints when the legs are splayed. You'll notice the bottom of the armour plates give the eventual angle the legs should be in - they're horizontal 'at rest'.

**Cylarne_04** · 29th Oct 10 4:46 PM

This reminds me of the old game called Mech Warriors I used to play when I was a kid. Well... Mech Warrior 2 and 3 anyways.

Super Structures: Anyone has any ideas for them then let us know.
Titans: Pathing- Would it be rather descent enough if they can be played "In the campaign" with their blueprint entities shrinked from normal size to smaller size, equip them with an ability that throws both vehicles and infantry (ally and foe) out of the way like kicking them so that the titans may pass?

**DannyLee94** · 30th Oct 10 4:36 AM

Titans: Pathing- Would it be rather descent enough if they can be played "In the campaign" with their blueprint entities shrinked from normal size to smaller size, equip them with an ability that throws both vehicles and infantry (ally and foe) out of the way like kicking them so that the titans may pass?

Yep maybe give them the them something similar to the Squig Rampage ability that recharges every 5 seconds but does no/little damage to all units. And as you said it should throw all units and vehicles out of the way upon contact.

Regarding the shrinking; youd be best shrink all other units as well, to get some decent scaling.

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@Winterdyne: No problem, i suppose theres no need for everything to be specific - i mean we still dont even know if anything bigger than the warhound will appear in the mod

**quelzoth** · 30th Oct 10 5:04 AM

why not make it so they create an attack effect while moving? it would effectively simulate the smaller troops getting stepped on, and a knockback effect will deal with if they aren't killed outright.
as for shrinking, it could work, but wouldnt it make some units too small to see? (E.G. attack scarabs)

**Cylarne_04** · 30th Oct 10 5:14 AM

Um well I guess I can try shrinking the Warhound right now and give him an ability just like we talked about with a secret weapon. While on the move can be difficult but I'll try. I wouldn't though shrink all units. Maybe vehicles though since they get stuck most of the time. The small vehicles like the Leman Russ can knock down infantry.

**quelzoth** · 30th Oct 10 5:24 AM

for the walking attack ability, why not have it spawn an effect, and have the effect do the damage?
that way it would happen automatically

**Cylarne_04** · 30th Oct 10 6:08 AM

@quelzoth: Like what effect are we talking about?

I applied the weapon to the Warhound and tested it out. It works fine with enemies but my armies still pass through the Titan's legs. I tried out the ability and it worked fine for vehicles but the infantry were thrown back across the map. It was freekin hilarious. So, I don't know. What do you guys think?

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