burp.you realy do this?nooooooo!!!
hanov:I think you will make good mod but you mod going to be not apocayptic.
Ultimate Apocalypse mod is great because it has a lot of units it is realy apocalyptic mod.
Apocalypse battles are amazing and mad!
its no chanches to survive when capture can just commanders and raiders.And less units?what is that?!no hanov no this is not apocalypse!I think you going to wrong way hanov.
@Hanov: well, I agree with them. Changing the purpose of every single unit like that, and above all removing units is not how the apocalypse works! There is only 1 completely useless unit in my opinion... the necron flying scarabs! they will be replaced if it comes to me, but I would never remove any other units, unless there soooo buggy that they have to be removed.
These changes would completely change the entire gameplay of this mod. If you want to include this, I'd suggest that you make this a wincondition so that players can choose if they want this on or not. except for the important changes which have to be done of course. ... If there are any.
I agree with the others. There's specified in LUA of modifications of Apocalypse that you cannot completely revamp the mod..The idea is interesting...But it would be like playing a new game, not playing apocalypse anymore.
Maybe you can make that as a wincondition or as optional thing..Like XP2 is normal and XP1 (don't think is used by anyone) is like you said. Because surely your idea is good and I would like to try that out...But I want to play also apocalypse
The best solution would be that you(Hanov) create this as a separate expansion of the Apocalypse mod like how the Apocalypse Mod included The Apocalypse Mod with New Races and also the default Apocalypse Mod. So there would be 3 versions packaged into the future build of the Apocalypse Mod eg:Vanilla Apocalypse,New Races Apocalypse and Competitive Multiplayer Apocalypse.
Well hold on a minute. Let's be patient and let Hanov release the mod. Everyone can judge it from there. I don't think Cylarne would appreciate put downs on a guy who is willing to improve 1.62 for the crowd.
I wouldn't say useless though, even though they don't do crap except attack air units ONLY and get stuck everywhere. However! They make an excellent distraction like the Deceiver and like all other aircraft, they can scout out an entire map with their jump ability. I like to just build them, jump them directly into an enemy base or critical position and sacrifice them to see what's going on over here or there.Originally Posted by Tyrantarmy
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we're just saying that he's completely revamping the mod...I will feel like playing a new game...not that I don't linke the idea, surely I will try it out when it will come out
All you read is just tech stuff, that can help to write a guide for example, but if you wouldnt know about that you will just see that there are less units and the game is balanced.
but based on your opinions probably the patch will be stay in my hands for private use only since terms of conditions of UA, clearly forbid me to release this as a diferent mod.
So i guess thats all from me, have fun and enjoy.
On a bright side it seems that original team is back so maybe more official patches get released.
Zack Fair,im the one using XP1 and XXP1 all the time,cause im tired of limited units and vehicles,exept for commanders,whitch would be so weird if i had hordes of them.Im just suprised that you,hanov,dont do any changes on them,so plz,if you can,do the same thing like u did on Actual UA and XP2.
PS:if the UA team is operational again,tell them that fix patches should be released around 11 mb or so,not 500.Its like you are releasing complete collection every time.
We're not back yet. Cylarne still has to show up remember.
@Hanov: If you don't mind, I would like to test out your new version myself. PM me for the link! I am very, very, VERY busy however Monday-Friday but I'll try to get the test results soon.
Im back and moah better the ever and rady to unleash all my pain >
I was once like you thriving on life, living large is what i used to say but now im a necron and all i can say is: I can never be bargained with, I won't see reason, I don't feel pity, or remorse nor do i feel fear and i will never stop until you, my human friends are dead
I was forced to not-stalk this thread for a little while since I had to do a little service to my system. Unfortunately for me, I won't be stalking much in the near future either ... I seem to have lost my antivirus and I don't like the idea of being online without some decent security.
But I will connect for some stuff I really need, like checking if there's a new version of the apocalypse .
Also I see our hero, hanov, has returned... And he seems to now believe in Tzeentc-- change!, I meant change!
So, every race has (counts)... 9 to 11 units (ouch, gonna miss the unit variety) ...buuut I guess they will able to build many of them... Right?Originally Posted by hanov
Also, that sounds like a truckload of work you've done, as they say in the internets: Your awesome.
Yeah units will have no limit. (except commanders).
But then again i need some time before finishing it.
ive been gone for three months because i was moving but im back now heheh and ready to get back to bug hunting
Former Play-tester/Beta tester for the APOC mod team.
The roar of engines, the recoil of cannons. That is where the true joy of battle lies
@Dante551 : Well, to get you up to speed, there shall be no bug hunting until Cylarne returns. Since, he clearly states that the oncoming mod version will be drastically different, I see no reason to test the current realease, especially since the community are doing their own things to the mod great work BTW guys.
@hanov : What you're saying goes completely against the Apocalypse. HOWEVER, I think that your changes would make for a cool mod. My suggestion would be to start your own mod with those basic ideas. And perhaps you could obtain permissions to use certain (new) units/textures/etc.
@Cosmocrat : You, sir, impress me HUGELY. I mean, wow. I CANNOT wait to see those bad boys in action. Although, take as much time as you need in perfecting those badassedness
@Tyrantarmy : THOSE SCARABS ARE USELESS then again...I rarely play as Necrons so...yeah...
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NOW BACK UP AND KICKING! BETTER STORIES AND MORE KICK ASS TRIBUTES TO COME
Fly scarabs aren't useless at all -.- they can defend yourself from air harassing and act as an explorer u.u
When will the Reaver be ingame? saw the pics at moddb.
Air Scarabs may be able to scout very well, but they die veeeerrrryyy quickly especially against weapons like D-Cannons! and, I don't see that many air craft, but if I do, they die very quickly without me having to spend power on those scarabs. So, I don't really use them.
@Hanov... well, of course as others have stated, the idea isn't bad, it's just not the way of the Apocalypse... that's all.
@Cosmo... and of course... well.... I don't know what to say! it's just AWESOME as always!
I agree with .:Zack Fair:. every race should have flying units.
Gentlemens .before comming with each argument ...let's do this.:
the future patch of hanov, one of the tester download and examine the package...he will deliver the judgment of proceed and download or give the order of stop right there and arrange...
by the way...seriously....this mod NEED Assault maps...I tested with a assault map i found called the fortress and it APOCALYPTIC for the attacket TvT.....Slaughter at 150%....My wishlist will be really try to create a new generation of those assault maps for this mod....
That to me have the same appealing like new units...
@ Tomb Deathwing
You mean that Assault renegade fortress 1v1 to 4v4 map? (where you assault a mother-of-the-Emperor-that's-huge Imperial Guard fortress, and both your team and the enemy's can be from one to four players)
I played it once. I got sick of not being able to beat the fortress (even when I flattened nearly all the base) at the three hours of combat. The automagically spawning troops make it difficult (i.e.: interesting). Was some epic 10 or less fps action.
Or by any chance the Bunker 151 map? (a 4v4 big flat map with huge fortress walls for each team and the 1st four players have nearly twice the strategic points and slag deposits)
Both are great if you ask me (but renegade fortress is way more epic).
Multiplayer Coop Assault 2.0... Mmhhh... Interesting
Can be played as a singleplayer skirmish?
It seems it can. And it's quite awesome. However I think Assault renegade fortress was by far more difficult (but I played Coop Assault 2.0 on Standard and I don't remember on which difficulty had Renegade fortress back then).
Magically spawned enemy troops came in much bigger packs on Renegade fortress as I remember it.
Still, this is not my ideal map... My fantasized map is about EPIC clashes between apocalyptic-sized armies. Haven't seen that yet (I guess it's because the DoW engine wasn't designed for that from a beginning).
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Renegade assault map is compatible yes....
Bu i found this one called "fortress multiplayer coop assault 1.0" is 3 vs 3 ......chaos is controlling an endless wave of troops.....
IN THE NAME OF APOCALYPSE AND THE SLAUGHTER ...I MEAN WHAT I SAY DOWNLOAD THIS MAP...!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.gamefront.com/files/13319..._Assault__2_0_
I don't give me ai scar error at all TVT and it has critical point and ......you could go apocalypse ......the ai use titans
TO EVERY SOUL HERE .....DOWNLOAD THIS MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND PLAYED NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Btw have a problem. maybe you can help me? I went to install the patch. even installed SL SS and what not. deleted and replaced folders and now NONE of my apoc mods work. any help? it was the .535 patch.
Edit: first time poster, wanted to add, LOVE the mods keep it up <3
Edit edit: I tried EVERYTHING i could think of. my comp just hates me >.<
Edit edit edit: heres what i did EXACTLY. I copied the folders over(like i did every patch) and it gave me some problems during the overwriting/copy process. something like cant find blah blah blah /Apocolypse upon i RECOPIED it all AGAIN 3 times. then i went and install SL figuring itd work. nothing. so i manually coipied every folder to replace the old ones. THEN giving up i deleted the folders, and replaced with patched ones and STILL nothing.
P.S. Im done with the edits. you can be happy now. ^-^
I don't like being the bringer of bad news, but the best solution you've got is to download it ALL again from the post in the link below (it's another, unofficial but working version).Originally Posted by Yay scarabs
It's 961Mb btw...
edit: lol, Yay scarabs... Wouldn't be more win if it were Yay sky scarabs?
But beware, if my understanding of the forums rules is correct, changing user names is a rather limited option with a maximum of usable times per year, and must be requested to an admin... or something like that.
edit 2: (evil laugh), made ya cry jk.
If I remember correctly, there was an issue with the .module files (a "0" instead of a "1" in the 'playable' line) among some other bugged stuff... I think. But the version I pointed you to has some extra balancing and it's less buggy, so it's your best choice.
Last edited by PsykoTenshi; 19th Sep 11 at 6:51 PM.
That made me cry.....
but thanks anyways........
Just wondering, whats the cause of this?
Edit: YAY i love you. your now my fav. tyvm im at 447 mb atm. <3333-bows down-
Edit to your first edit. I actually made my account name upon seeing sky scarabs mentioned. Go me!
Last edited by Yay scarabs; 19th Sep 11 at 6:58 PM.
Hmm... boo! 5-6 pages behind, not bad, not bad.
Dear fans all over the place, I am baaaaccckkkkk! Mwa ha ha ha ha! Well I mean for two days, then I gotta go back to college and finish x, y, and z, and crap, but I'll be back PERMANENTLY after that!
I was gone for a month at college leaving my base computer behind along with history of stuff and awesome such. I was popping in a couple times recently on lesser busy days, but I didn't do much as of those times like knowing what was going on. For more information, please read my big speech!
Now some of you were wondering, where is Cylarne? Oh no, no more updates! Where are the devs.? Please read my big speech. I do apologize for not reading any of your comments and not paying attention to recent events from 8/22 til now (9/19/11), but I was not here. And no, this does not mean you are ignored today! Please give me the full two days to get myself caught up and reply to all comments that need commenting as necessary.
As for the 1.62.535 patch, shit! I feel soooooooo bad right now, ha ha, sorry folks, it'll get updated at top priority!
And as for Cosmocrat and Hanov: Yeah baby!
Cosmocrat, your models are impressive, I CANNOT wait to fully unleash these Apocalyptic Mother fu**ers.
Hanov, we'll talk later. Later as in tomorrow, I got lots of crap to update.
That's all for now!
Oh wait, team, your breaks are over. I'm sending you a new ALPHA mod and I want you to gimme feedback. That's an order! I'll get to more private PMs later, ta!
EDIT: Title is updated but Mega Upload is being a doofus. I can't add the link to the first post download until it properly loads. Are there any other mirrors? Thanks.
Yes of course.
And sure we talk later, send me a PM cause our times might not meet, i will reply as soon as i can.
EDIT: BUT REMEMBER GOOGLE DOCS STOP WORKING WHEN THE FILE IS DOWNLOADED 50+ TIMES, AND IT WILL NOT WORK UNTIL 24 HOURS LATER.
Downloading now. Thanks hanov. Do these contain the NEW titans?
Uh if you speak about the Reaver and the Mako it's yet a clear no as they're not read yet.The reaver is even not fully textured yet not speaking about a proper rig and FX helpers ^^ the Mako is then way more advanced in progress but also needs several adjustments AND on top i have Eldar Phantom Titan fully textured laying around here needing a rig, FX helpers and finally OE work. The Stompa and Warlord haven't received yet any work as i first want to test the Reaver and how to get the almost twice as big Warlord in-game but the stompa would be added before the Warlord. So this will be ideally 4 new all original Titans once i get them in-game, because bigger is better!
Now only the other Races as IDH, SoB and DE need some love as for IDH and DE i am working together with Demetrius whos doing a Tormentor and a Nemesis Dreadknight. The models are yet awesome but way too high in Poly with 300K of Faces. We had a council yesterday about how to reduce most effectively unecessary Poly because i really want these models inside DoW because they look awesome ^^. So there's a huuuge crapload of work for new units in tray as this is the spirit of Apocalypse: A Huge array of Weapon Systems to chose from whom one is more awesome then the other! It's like this; Player - "Goddammit!! I wished i had a freekin Warlord/Nuke/Uber Weapon to beat the crap outta these!" Apoc Dev - "Uh and the Point is? Get your mouse onto that button and blow these mofos off the surface of history forever now!" Player - "".
This is the Truth of how having a nice day
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@Zack Fair: The Mega Upload link has stalled in the "receiving connection" part for almost 2 hours last night and I simply do not have time to wait that long to start downloading it. However, I'll add this in the main download for everyone right now.
EDIT: It is now in.
As the headline states i today finished the Reaver's texture at last and can now focus on animations, rig, FX and finally Object Editor coding. I hope you like it and apreciate it if you would leave a comment on that one ^^. Though i am not that satisfied but i think it goes well still as it looks so far.
So here it comes, get ready:
You can have a nice day now ^^
P.S.: Yay nice to see you back in action even if it's just for a tiny while ^^.
Cosmo, the Reaver looks absolutely perfect in my opinion. Just ONE little adjustment if it won't take up too much of your time. If you add bones to it, I can definitely animate it for you. You want to see my art in awesome animations? Link me!
@ Cosmocrat: ... (dropped jaw)... I don't understand, exactly what doesn't get you "that satisfied" with the Reaver? It looks... looks... (drools) idk, perfect.
Maybe it's because it doesn't have the "Reaver pose" (the one on the widely known Reaver Titan pic). Yet.
Now im confused...
Can anybody show new patch link please?
@PsykoTenshi: I'm not exactly satisfied with my mod, it sucks. XD
And also I got a PM from ProfessorGenius, ring a bell? We'll talk later.
Go to first post and Download the mod now XD! (Within that link there.)Can anybody show new patch link please?
Oh wow. Oh wow, the link is done for. What in tarnations?Hi, I just downloaded this mod (and love it) but I can't run XP2 because i do not have the Inquisition Daemonhunt SS mod, and the link provided isn't working (page isn't found). So if some one can give me a link that would be great. Thanks
I'll deal with the IDH team after I read the 6 missed pages of text. Meanwhile enjoy not XP2.
Hi, I just downloaded this mod (and love it) but I can't run XP2 because i do not have the Inquisition Daemonhunt SS mod, and the link provided isn't working (page isn't found). So if some one can give me a link that would be great. Thanks
will download to see what hanov did removed,we add units to be removed,wieard,neather dont use all units in the game but is good to see how good they look,about maps i wont destructable terain,as bigger units like ig tenks,landariders and especialy titans are stocked in maps with many obstacle,maybe with this mod all maps will have destructable terain
why not make titans all the same size??there si not enough place on map for warlord with twice size regarding all other titans,but on destructable terain it will be ok.
150 k still to much
it the same patch i released as a complete collection. i dont know what makes anyone think about a new patch when i just said it will take longer to finish.
nvm solved my own problem (found a working link on the 5 google page) heres the link if anyone else needs to re download the thing
That Nemesis DreadNight still looks awesome, though there's a lot of stuff on there which could be done with textures. Like those grills on the weapons or whatever they're called. that's something for textures, and it's not the only thing. if you'd simplify it so that those details are done with textures I'm pretty sure the amount of poly's should be reduced dramaticly. or well, that's what I think.
So...?Originally Posted by Whiteshield
Ok wow, these models are great, but I think he's not releasing them yet because they are not finished.Originally Posted by BIGBEAST
No, maybe if they were combined with Sisters on the other hand it wouldn't be so redundant after all. SOB needs lots of goodies.Originally Posted by A Thousand Sons
ok well i had to do it so here is patch 1.62.54.
Nice, thank you!Originally Posted by Hanov
It won't be necessary for the grand release.Originally Posted by Tyrantarmy6
Originally Posted by Zack FairThat's a first.Originally Posted by Zack Fair
Well then... this is interesting.Originally Posted by Sharphawkx
oO, was this fixed? I'll certainly include this in the 2012 release.Originally Posted by Hanov
yay.Originally Posted by Joekid
Actually, the reason why that is, is because I imported that Soulstorm from the 2012 release and onto the Public versions. It's a lot better gameplay in the 2012 release than now, sorry about that, but maybe Hanov can fix it.Originally Posted by Sharphawkx
So obviously there are a lot of DE problems... hmm, I'll see what I can do for the future as I haven't touched them too much lately (I mean a month+ before the month I disappeared.)
the only thing that i can say is THANK YOU for nerfing the DE.Yup.hanov, i just have 2 thoughts about you: YOUR AWESOME. And, thank you, THANK YOU for taking such an epic task making the Ultimate Apocalypse even better.
Hotkeys are trickey. First you have to change up the hotkey name within the ui_info child, and then do a lot of other annoying crap with people's profiles. That's already done for the Grand Release by the way. I'm not so concerned for the implementation in 1.62.542, but if you want to change that for the crowd let me know.About the hotkeys, i dont know where the code for that is and i havent found it yet, so i will do it but i have some bugs and the primary goal of perfect balance first so you will have to wait a little for that =)
Yes, but why? Unless we transform a character from a Dreadnought to a Venerable Dreadnought, I don't see the point in transforming Banshees into Striking Scorpions.Originally Posted by RT2
Please nobody touch this ability yet. This was taken out because I simply could care less about making 12 other clones of squads for Tau for it to not crash to Desktop. Believe me, I reimplemented this and the game crashes to desktop on every new unit you cast the ability on. I simply replaced the ability in the Grand Release for something more awesome. It requires an icon though Master Necro.Where gone tau ethereal holographic projection ability.hanov can you add that ability to tau?
@demetrius: Next time can you PLEASE post a warnings.log instead of this. Perhaps put it in spoilers as well.
Oo, Why? Doesn't matter, you'll think differently about the 2012 release.Originally Posted by Hanov and PsychoTenshi
By the way the Advanced Mines are on my list of being taken out. I'll instead apply an upgrade for Mines instead.
Ok.Originally Posted by Zack Fair
This is a bug that will never be fixed because of the DOW Engine. All weapons except artillery and Missile Launchers obey terrain line of sight. Water is terrain in this instance and if weapons, ranged weapons go under water, the units will not attack. However it is more realistic and no more units except the artillery can shoot through mountains which is very nice.Originally Posted by Sharphawkx
Like Thudo said, and? I don't know what this error could be. I never got this error, ever and this Commissar tactic works fine on my end.
Well good, I need bug lists ASAP. And Dante, make them good please.Originally Posted by Dante
Ok, sure.The XV88 Broadside has had a weird animation bug that makes the hand, or missile pods, go up to his face. this has been in the mod for quite some time, is it really that hard to fix?
And that will be fixed.land raiders should definitely not be able to carry dreadnoughts
Yup, 7000 power is too much now. I tested the AO over and over and 5000 power is a dead on cost. + Solar Energy research.Aeonic orb should cost less looking at 1.6.535 changelog..Look at the regeneration nerf also
Renegade Guardsmen would look perfect with our new Renegade Baneblade.Originally Posted by PsychoTenshi
Later, yes.Got a question. Are traitor guardsmen being added for chaos? I thought that it was decided to add them.
Too bad.I really think the new models are amazing, but I'm disappointed about the titans..Right now the mod is balanced, it makes no sense to have another tier..More the units will become bigger and bigger..Am I the only one who think that?
And the other stuff is recent.
And as being overlord, this part is the best...
So fans, did Hanov do a well done job when I was gone? Do you think he could improve the Public release? Opinions needed!Originally Posted by Hanov
hello all i am back from a 2 month vacation (the reasons for said vacation i sadly will not divulge)
HOWEVER what matters is that i am back good work on the mod so far guys!
'You have ruled this galaxy for ten thousand years, yet have little of account to show for your efforts. Such failure must be as depressing to bear as it is pathetic to behold.'
- Imotekh the Stormlord to Marshal Helbrecht during the battle for Schrodinger VII
@Cylarne Definetaly hanov did a good job He was so close to us listening to our tips about making it more balanced. And he is so nice, please let him enter the team
@ Cylarne: While I hadn't that much trouble with the last official version of the mod (I just adjusted the "playable" line and played without issues... yeah, I'm not sure how I managed that...) hanov certainly stood up and did a good job.
Also, on your hueg comment: YES! YES!!! HOTKEYS FOR THE DAEMONHUNTERS!!!
And: The renegade Baneblade will have some fancy differences with the IG one? Like chaosy bits and spikes or new unit responses. I would totally commit heresy for a couple of skirmishes to be able to try it out.
I prefer to disable ultimate superweapons because I feel them as gamebreakers (I always did and I always will). I see it as a huge bomb that makes big zog-off forts useless...
When my enemy has a big zog-off fort, I prefer to stomp it myself, with authentic effort and sacrifice. I think throwing a bomb to do the job from afar as an act of cowardice.
I still fight for the Imperium and their superior tanks, I just like how the orks speak.
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