Ultimate Apocalypse - 1.72.5 Released!

[.:Zack Fair:.]

Yes AI is much better I had to play like 20 times in order to be able to beat insane (And I mostly play against humans )

[PsykoTenshi]

@ .:Zack Fair:. (Or anyone with the knowledge) Any efficient ways of fighting the sheer amount of units that Harder and Insane throw into the fight? I play vs Hard and win every time (except when my allies get dumb and let themselves get beaten), usually losing less than 20 units, but I have only been able to beat Harder once, and that was a lucky shot.

So what can I do? I can easily crush Hard AI with minimal (if not zero) losses but Harder (and I didn't even try Insane) gets my base demolished in record time, every time.

[.:Zack Fair:.]

@PsykoTenshi Beating the AI is usually easier than you think...RUSHING is the answer...You keep them closed into their base 'till you advance to tier II (this requires some micro) and then you choose your best anti-building unit (stealthsuits, rocket launchers, screamer killers, wraithlords etc...) and while you destroy his units some of AB units destroys everything else...As I said before AI is very vulnerable to rush

[darktetor]

well, thats thank to the awesome AI the enemy has now x3 XD. *goes to play single player campaign now o3ó*

[Dante551]

O_O omg if i had my old avatar pic it would be creepy ^^ anyways i found that waiting is good just defend for a while on hard or harder at least with the tau, imperial guard peoples and space marines

[ProfMan96]

Okay...So I need all my testers (and anyone else that wishes to volunteer) to report to me (drop me a PM). As for new applicants, do send me a buglist accompanying your PM. Do PM me ASAP people, the big guy is waiting

[Sparviero]

The AI control panel located in Apocaplypse\data\ai affect the difficult parameters of campaign also?
Thanks

[WhiteMetalSesa]

@ProfMan96 I send you a lot of times the Bugs Hope they help you!
And I have a little question, is the Triolith that big as the Warlord? And I want to say too that I like a lot your work what you have done on it and I'm playing this mod too a lot of times to make Apocaliptic battles and all that stuff but every in my opionion the Ultimate Super Weapons aren't that big and dont destroy that much and why the Adeptus Sororitas/Sisters of Battle have a Exterminatus Missile that doesn't kill that much? Because the Missile don't kill that much as the Solar Destructor Beam. It's just a question!

Greetings:
WhiteMetalSesa

[Cosmocrat]

@WhiteMetalSesa: I think that the Triolith is somewhere between the Reaver and Warlod in size. As big epic pyramid gaussing the hell outta your enemy is epic. I think that we've found the right size for it but to be honest i haven't compared the Triolith yet to my Warlord Model but sizes are only relative and nothing that couldn't be corrected with the 3DS scaling tool .

The Ultimate Super Weapons are going to be reworked anyway as some were more powerful than others and should work fine within the next grand release.
For that comparsion between Æonic Orb and Exterminatus consider that the Exterminatus missile costs less then the production of the Æonic Orb itself which should make the Orb considerably stronger than the Exterminatus missile (Just from the cost side. I am not regarding the fluff here right now)

I think that should made things more clear right now

-Cosmocrat

[Whiteshield]

NOTE to mod team: Noticed the new grey knight skin on moddb. you should replace your outdated Grey Knight model from the one in Purgation of Kaurava. It has more weapons, a hammer, a cool power sword and double wielded force falchions.

[WhiteMetalSesa]

@Cosmocrat THX
I will see it when you release it!

[Cylarne_04]

Alright, "version 1.63.3" Ultimate Apocalypse ALPHA mod is ready for BETA testing which means the 2012 release is ready to be loaned to people outside of the team. First post updated with members who are currently involved in testing the mod. If your name is in there, then you are most certainly testing the 2012 release early.

So yes, it is now ready to be critically abused with constructive criticism and criticalness all over, except for a few areas which I will point out NOT TO TEST. Unfortunately... I cannot upload/download anything. My firewall is out = still can't upload/download, tried downloading stuff = 50% done then fail, uploading stuff = 99% completed, then my computer restarts.

What does this mean? Testing the mod week is delayed. I CANNOT get passed package and deliver stage and it is so... shitblabing jaba wanna wabba! Hang tight, it is probably a problem with internet signal or motherboard with internet files fail.

Meanwhile, feel free to explode in anger and curse me with cursely wishes. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience.

[Hellboy]

Hello, i would like to take part in beta testing your mod.

[Gambit]

Cylarne, I am always here for playtesting both UA and Daemons. If you lack playtesters, I would gladly offer my assistance.

P.S. I am VERY glad this Christmas will be filled with DOW goodies!!!!! I am currently part of the Dark Angels playtesting team members, and OH BOY !!!!
Our "superiors" (namely Thudo and Jones) MOD-WORK/CODE like maniacs!!!! And by watching Daemons and UA, I SEE YOU DO TOO!!!!! I suppose the UA team consists of MANY skilful members (UA is a HUGE modding task)......
The community is grateful to you ALL guys...

[demetrius]

as new version of tyranid mod shoud came at the end of this week,i just delete old version install new,and start ua mod??

[Cylarne_04]

Gambit, Gambit, Gambit and all you wanna be UA BETA testers, read this.

as new version of tyranid mod shoud came at the end of this week,i just delete old version install new,and start ua mod??

Aw shit... well no. Freaking aye... ... >(

[Cosmocrat]

@ Demetrius: I would strongly advise you to NOT install the newest Version of the Tyranid Mod as we can't be sure yet that a possible new code in the Tyranid Mod would not interfere with the actual Apocalypse Code. You could still give it a try and install it and see what it takes but possible new units along Tyranids would not be balanced Apocalypse wise not to mention researches and other stuff. So you would actually have to wait until the grand 2012 release or until we release a Tyranid Mod Patch to use the new Tyranid Mod version.

And hell i guess we've got some more Beta-Testers this time :P. I hope that we'll not again gain the title "buggies mod Ev4r!" again! Please Beta-Testers make it happen and beat the hell outta your Beta version! XD


P.S.: Quite little activity during the past few days/weeks are you guys all playing the beta already or are you bust by the fearsome reallife? xD

[Gambit]

Quite little activity during the past few days/weeks are you guys all playing the beta already or are you bust by the fearsome reallife?

Cosmo, I have 4 friends eagerly waiting to play the beta (we play LAN at my place) and help me find issues (be it balance, fluff or mod issues)... We closely follow this mod/thread from the first version. One of my friends is a WH40k fanatic, has 3 complete armies and all the codex books (of all versions publised)!!
I suppose that like us, MANY people follow the UA progress behind the scenes....

P.S. As Cylarne instructed, I have just sent a request to join your Play Testing team to Profman. I hope he will accept...

[WhiteMetalSesa]

I sent too a ProfMan to a request and hope I got it too
Im following too this mod since his firstdays. I would spend a lot of time in the Beta-Version to find all bugs. And hope to be a part of the Team.
Hope all will make it...I sent to a buglist from all that I found playing and hope it worked for you.

[ProfMan96]

Oh yes, that's right. After several long months (okay, exaggeration of course.) I shall finally make my appearance to say this again, most preferably emphasis.

Any and all that wishes to volunteer to help out the team by playtesting MUST send application form to ME DIRECTLY via PM. I don't want you to be flooding Cylarne with your PM. As for the applicaiton form, you must include ;

-A buglist on any race of your choice from the Apolcaypse Mod
-Reasons as to why I should even consider letting you join
-And, include any past experiences with playtesting should you have any

I have not read previous posts, and no, I don't plan to...there's just too much to catch up on. So, if you have any questions regarding the testing department, do ask me yes, me

If you want to keep updated with screenies (which contain Uber Epicness) do pay their ModDB page a visit http://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-apocalypse-mod

@BETA testers : I'm sure you know who you are so...do keep an eye out for PMs. And to those that have to send another buslist for evaluation, please do so ASAP

[Cylarne_04]

To add to this, I just want everyone to know who is in the BETA testing team already. If you did not see your name in the first post of the Apocalypse Mod Team spoiler and YOU ARE IN IT, well then here you are again if you didn't see...

Beta Testers (Organized by BETA Tester Leader):
Dante551
PsykoTenshi
The Corruptor (Requires however just a couple more bugs for more races to be 100% confirmed)
mido.madara
Sharphawkx (Requires however just a couple more bugs for more races to be 100% confirmed)
Gambit

Also...


These will be very appreciated, as it will influence me to keep modding even if I want to quit. If I have enough, I'll be releasing some of the Grand Release at Christmas. So please donate.

[Whiteshield]

so I'm thinking you have 0-10 dollars already right?

[owe124]

It's great mod! i'm aways play with my friends, and I have some quesiton, how can I equip lightning claw to Chaos Lod undivded ?

[PsykoTenshi]

so I'm thinking you have 0-10 dollars already right?

I'd donate 10 dollars right now if I had a credit card... or the money to spare...

btw, random bug report on 1.62.542. One of the SM Land Raiders can be only repaired by one servitor at the time, though I don't remember exactly which... It's either the LR Crusader (the one with Hurricane bolters) or the Redeemer (Heavy Flamers).
I'm quite sure because I use two 'regular' LR's and those two every time.

[Yay scarabs]

Id apply to be a tester and i was going to donate $50 but alas my comp died. Ill be getting a new one come Xmas but i cant play dow on a tablet....D:


-Ashley

Edit: ive tried donating from my xoom but it seems to hate me

[Gambit]

@Cylarne and @Profman: Thank you for accepting me as a Play Tester. I will not disappoint you.

P.S.: Just a trivial question: Is Hahov still with us? I know that many things happen behind closed doors (), but I haven't seen any post from him lately...

[Dante551]

i think hanov is dealing with school ^^ but dont really know

[Cylarne_04]

@Gambit: I appreciate more races tested though bro. We can only assume about Hanov's absence. It appears as of right now there will be no "Hanov's version" to be downloadable.

btw, random bug report on 1.62.542. One of the SM Land Raiders can be only repaired by one servitor at the time, though I don't remember exactly which... It's either the LR Crusader (the one with Hurricane bolters) or the Redeemer (Heavy Flamers).
I'm quite sure because I use two 'regular' LR's and those two every time.

Wow, nice eye bro. I didn't even fix that from the 2012 release, until now. Reason why you are joining the BETA team. ^^ And two other reasons.

It's great mod! i'm aways play with my friends, and I have some quesiton, how can I equip lightning claw to Chaos Lod undivded ?

Eh... can't. Apparently the hardpoint is named wrong. The code however for the Lightning Claw is there though, if you will ever notice the difference.

[owe124]

thanks. than how can I join to BETa team?

[PsykoTenshi]

Wow, nice eye bro. I didn't even fix that from the 2012 release, until now.

Yay, I'm special! Though is a shame that there will be no 'Hanov's version' for now... I was waiting for it.

Another thingie I noted on the LR's (and also on the IG superheavies) is that the limits are sort of bugged. For example, as SM, I use to deploy two 'regular' LR's, a Crusader and a Redeemer. The thing is if (I think it was the Redeemer) the LR Redeemer is lost I can't deploy another, and I'm forced to choose between a Prometheus or a Helios instead. A similar thing Happens with the IG superheavies, they can be deployed in a total maximum of three but just two of the same variant. If one of the two 'repeated' deployed superheavies is destroyed, the player is forced to choose the third, originally non-used variant. For example: I deploy two Baneblades and a Swordshadow. One Baneblade is destroyed. I can only deploy a Stormblade.

And I knew the lightning claw wasn't 'gettable'! I tried lots of research combinations to equip it on the Undivided Lord with no visible result. But if I understood right, it is there stats-wise? As in improving damage?

[Gambit]

Cylarne Said:

I appreciate more races tested though bro.

Cylarne, I assumed that, all us testers, should wait for the internal beta for this...I mean I was expecting direct orders.
Never mind, I'll start immediately.

[Tomb Deathwing]

@ demetrius ...

What new version of the tyranid mod?

[Gambit]

@Tomb Deathwing: The guys there, are releasing the next version: http://tyranids.gameapollo.com/viewt...t=810&start=40
It is only a matter of weeks (if not days) before it is out...!

[Tomb Deathwing]

Thank you Mr.Gambit!!!!!!!!


I was out of forums path because my finals T^T.....only 2 week more and them Im free!!!!! OvO

[Gambit]

Thank you Mr.Gambit!!!!!!!!

Hehe, no problem brother.

By the way, each race in the Ultimate Apocalypse is so complex for the playtester (and not for the player, thankfully), that I started 4 hours ago, and I am still at 90% for chaos space marines !!!!!! (But it is a pleasure, believe me!!).

Guys, we have to accept it. UA is one of the TOP Mods available......
(And I have to say the same for Dark Angels, Black Templars, Tyranids, etc. We are so lucky to have all these skillful and limit-breaking people in our midst!!!!!)

P.S.: As I said, 2011 Christmas will be TRULY APOCALYPTIC what all these goodies coming!!!

[Cosmocrat]

Oh Yeah.

But Apocalyptic is not the right word to describe what's coming up.

It must be rather : "IT WILL BE ULTIMATIVELY APOCALYPTIC "


But damn i wish i had the time to let the other stuff come true me and Cylarne werre talking/thinking about :S.
I dunno if you can imagine something that goes even beyond everything you have seen yet for the UA Mod yet...

... um, you better not try because elsely,

YOUR HEAD EXPLODES.

[Gambit]

YOUR HEAD EXPLODES.

It already has... 6 HOURS STRAIGHT of playtesting the Chaos Space Marines.... and I am at 95%!! AND NO BALANCE REPORT YET!!! Man, the task is HUGE....
I wanna see if Profman will be able to handle my (LOOOOOOOONG) report....

[Cylarne_04]

@Gambit: DOOD Save your energy for the BETA release. I can fix the bugs a lot more simply and from a recent version.

All I need is a simple list of more races. And then Profman and I judge.

YOUR HEAD EXPLODES.

It already has...

To the 1.62.542 crap version? Oh please.

No offense to all of you, we're working hard.

[Gambit]

To the 1.62.542 crap version? Oh please.

... You mean we should expect.......radical changes?????!!!!

I can fix the bugs a lot more simply and from a recent version.

Roger.

All I need is a simple list of more races.

... OK but... I find it difficult. It is easier for me to focus on one race....

P.S.: I just sent my PT report to profman (but still only one race).... I guess I'll wait for the internal beta and Profman's instructions before proceeding.

[ChaoticHorus]

I wanna know something about campaign, the other time i was playing it as space marines and everything went all fine, defeated all strongholds but 1, the eldar, once i was about to destroy their true base it simply kicks me out, so will this be fixed next release?

[Hellboy]

Hello. I'm find bugs and want to enter betatester you mods here's bugs which I'm find.
----------CHAOS------------
•Can research 5 marks and can't build special commander unit.
•In apocaliptic build for wrong position icon can't use some abilities of a one point!
•Wrong position icons of sorcerers.
•Wrong describe havoc squad write, that 3 squade can build, but can some quantity.
----------ORKS------------
•Gretchin stupid they don't build buildings at clamped button "Shift" They refuse to bulid and jst stupid stand!!!
----------ELDARS------------
•Aspect portal not have button deepstrike and hotkey can't use.
•Can't use special benefits apocaliptic buildings such as move Avatar khaine between Khaine's enchanced webway gate of wrath and other. Therefore I suggest solve build two apocaliptic build.
•Eldar Wraithguard can attack in melee , but they not have animation attack melee therefore they just stupid stand..... and only occasionally shoot in target) fix please very strange bug ^_^ I'm think that it of warlock in squad=) because he can attack melee) and please replace fx explosion at target on that fx which have old verision model.)
•So all squad have wrong position self position in squad
• I'm suggest add skill:"Eldritch regeneration" damage enemies around avatar it's a was be as nice.
•It's not bug it's my astonishment eldar or other race this is very very strenght when her manage human))) it's beatiful when fireprisms with nightspinners destroy thousands of thousand orks!!! The great MEAT!!!!! blood for the blood GOD!)))...
----------TAU------------
•Wrong position icons of arka weapon.
•Wrong position recearch second weapon ARKA's.

P.S.
I'm finded this is it bugs over 5 day)

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'eldar_farseer': upgrade 'eldar_shuriken_pistol_farseer' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'eldar_farseer': upgrade 'eldar_witchblade_farseer' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'eldar_wave_serpent': upgrade 'eldar_shuriken_cannon_grav_tank' is an invalid weapon!
'eldar_falcon_grav_tank': upgrade 'eldar_starcannon_grav_tank' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'eldar_scorpion': has an invalid class rating <0.000000>! It must be between 0-10!
'eldar_falcon_grav_tank': upgrade 'eldar_scatter_laser_grav_tank' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'eldar_falcon_grav_tank': upgrade 'eldar_brightlance_grav_tank' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'eldar_falcon_grav_tank': upgrade 'eldar_starcannon_grav_tank' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'scout_marine': upgrade 'space_marine_flamer_scout' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'space_marine_devastator': upgrade 'space_marine_missile_launcher_devastator' is an invalid weapon!
'banner_bearer': upgrade 'space_marine_chainsword_bearer' is an invalid weapon!
'librarian': upgrade 'space_marine_bolt_pistol_librarian' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'chaplain': upgrade 'space_marine_bolt_pistol_chaplain' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'chaplain': upgrade 'space_marine_power_sword_chaplain' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'force_commander': upgrade 'space_marine_daemon_hammer' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'force_commander_terminator': upgrade 'space_marine_power_fist_terminator_veteran' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'land_speeder': upgrade 'space_marine_multi_melta_land_speeder' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'land_speeder': upgrade 'space_marine_heavy_flamer_land_speeder' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'land_speeder_typhoon': upgrade 'space_marine_multi_melta_land_speeder' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'land_speeder_typhoon': upgrade 'space_marine_missile_launcher_typhoon' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'land_speeder_storm': upgrade 'space_marine_multi_melta_land_speeder' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'whirlwind': upgrade 'space_marine_missile_battery' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'dreadnought': upgrade 'space_marine_plasma_cannon_dreadnought' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'dreadnought_hellfire_variant': upgrade 'space_marine_autocannon_dreadnought_hellfire' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'dreadnought_hellfire_variant': upgrade 'space_marine_lascannon_twin_dreadnought' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'land_raider_helios': upgrade 'space_marine_missile_battery' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'sm_warhound_titan': upgrade 'npc_titan_arm_megacannon' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'assault_marine_veteran_sp': upgrade 'space_marine_bolt_pistol_assault_veteran' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'assault_marine_veteran_sp': upgrade 'space_marine_bolt_pistol_assault_veteran' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!
'dreadnought_hellfire_variant': upgrade 'space_marine_assault_cannon_hellfire' is an invalid upgrade for this entity type!

[Cylarne_04]

@Hellboy: Well I appreciate your effort, but next time (If there will be one) I URGE you to report this to PROFMAN. We'll take the rest up to PM.

I wanna know something about campaign, the other time i was playing it as space marines and everything went all fine, defeated all strongholds but 1, the eldar, once i was about to destroy their true base it simply kicks me out, so will this be fixed next release?

It is in my best interest to fix this.

... You mean we should expect.......radical changes?????!!!!

My lips are sealed bro.

... OK but... I find it difficult. It is easier for me to focus on one race....

P.S.: I just sent my PT report to profman (but still only one race).... I guess I'll wait for the internal beta and Profman's instructions before proceeding.

Yeah dood, you're golden. Please don't be too shiny and a million-air worth of gold. Save that for the internal BETA bro. All you have to do is wait. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

EDIT: All BETA testers wiull be given feedback from ME (Not Mission Editor) soon! Stay tuned.

[Gambit]

All you have to do is wait.

Roger.

[Dante551]

EDIT: All BETA testers will be given feedback from ME (Not Mission Editor) soon! Stay tuned.

but i like listening to the mission editor

... OK but... I find it difficult. It is easier for me to focus on one race....

i do this to to bad there arent enough testers to allow that ^^

[Hellboy]

Ok. I'm send letter with bugs at Profman.

[Gambit]

Fellow-Playtester Dante, said:

I do this too, too bad there aren't enough testers to allow that ^^

Do not worry comrade, I can "finish" a race-report within perhaps 6 hours, and given my spare time, I can finish 3 races (or more, if Profman demands it) in a week's time. If all we testers, join forces and split the workload (thank God, we have Profman to coordinate us), I think it is a matter of just ONE week..... But still, we must wait the directions of our superiors to tell us what they need testing first - they know better. Moreover, Cylarne said that we should NOT test certain parts of the beta, so...

Suggestion: To be more consistent, I think we should ALL playtest ALL races (at the appropriate time), as combined findings maximize their number.... I will in fact intend to test them all within 2 and 1/2 weeks (or less), should the number of internal betas (and of course, Profman and Cylarne) allow it.

[Dante551]

Do not worry comrade, I can "finish" a race-report within perhaps 6 hours, and given my spare time, I can finish 3 races (or more, if Profman demands it) in a week's time

holy cow thats fast. well all we can do at the moment is wait so wait it is

[Tomb Deathwing]

@ For all testers of UA.

I like to ask if the infantry and Vehicles of the Ai continuing stuck in their base because the Ai build to many buildings blocking the path?

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and to close each form another T^T....

[Tyrantarmy6]

@Tomb Deathwing: Yes, the AI does that indeed. We are aware of that. And yet, from what I've heard... it cannot be fixed.

[Tomb Deathwing]

@ Tyranarmy6 .

Thank you Sir for the info...but

I was wondering if lessen the building the Ai build and he gave a space between buildings....perhaps that?