Ultimate Apocalypse - 1.72.5 Released!

[mirceamrc]

Hello and sorry for my newb question, I am quite new to DoW: SS . So, I did every step, I go game manager activate alocalypse mod normal or with new races and no one works. Keep saying failed to active the game ! Anyone know why? Thanks!

[GrOrc]

@GrOrc : That must have been a mistake, I do not think is was deliberate

See Mod DB page of UA mod. Credits section is absent there. This is not the correct behavior in a civilized society. Here on Relicnews the correct behaviour always strictly observed to maintain good standards of behavior towards each other's hardwork.

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Lack of proper credits section actually means misappropriation other's hardwork. This is misleading beginners and people who have not yet figured out DoW modding. For example, people on Mod DB might think that the great FoK models were made by UA team. It's a lie. Who among you wants to live in a lie?

I think we should live by the good standards of civilized society.

The consequences of non-compliance with the DoW Community rules for the UA team can be unpleasant. If I'll forbid to use my Titanium Wars Mod content for UA team then UA mod will down to very low quality. If FoK team will forbid to use FoK content for UA team then UA mod will be in ruins. UA mod is nothing without DoW Community ready made stuff. I am confident that UA team leaders understand this. Our demand is just correct. UA team MUST respect hardwork of other modders.

[METAL GOD]

@GrOrc :I completely agree with you, the added content from other mods should be included in the credits. I suppose that it soon will be be remedied.

[Jaguar-Lord]

Our demand is just correct

do i understand here that you, GrOrc, are the spokesman of the FoK team and TW team and that both these two teams have mandated you to express their concern about missing credits in a formal way ? why here and not on the mobDB forums ?
edit : sorry, it's on modDb too, so what triggered such public warning on both forums? ..thus said credit goes where credit is due

[Rytlock]

Jaguar-Lord

I really don't want to get myself involved with this, since it'll probably just turn into a shitstorm, but GrOrc is the sole founder and modder of TWM. Perhaps he shouldn't bring FoK into this, since he uses their models as well, but he does have the right to deny UA the work that he has made himself. As to why he took it up here instead of in modDB, I'll leave that to him.

And just out of curiosity, why did you call him Gorb? Gorb's a moderator on the forums. Or did I miss a post he made?

[GrOrc]

do i understand here that you, Gorb, are the spokesman of the FoK team and TW team and that both these two teams have mandated you to express their concern about missing credits in a formal way ? why here and not on the mobDB forums ?

I informed all stakeholders of this violation. I informed Gorb and Ira Aduro as members of the FoK team and as moderators of Relicnews (that is more important as the rules of DoW Community must be respected in all related sites). Also I informed admin of Mod DB about this.

[Jaguar-Lord]

my bad for the typo...GrOrc off course, sorry guys to both of you....

edit :

the rules of DoW Community must be respected in all related sites

what is that pseudo-legal statement ? and what are these related sites please.... i must have missed the DoW Community RuleBook, correct me please.

[Rytlock]

I'm not sure, but with "related sites", I think he's reffering to both relicnews and modDB, though I could be wrong. The DoW community he's refering to isn't limited to this website.

[mirceamrc]

Anyone can help me, maybe?

[METAL GOD]

@ mirceamrc: only occurs to me that you reinstall all

[GrOrc]

my bad for the typo...GrOrc off course, sorry guys to both of you....

edit : what is that pseudo-legal statement ? and what are these related sites please.... i must have missed the DoW Community RuleBook, correct me please.

I just speak about correct behaviour within DoW Community. And read this for example:

Rules on the sharing of content:

As with the Firestorm over Kronus mod and the C2C project before it, you may use most of the content from this mod as long as your credit the FoK team in your release. Content you are not allowed to use is listed in the mod's readme file and you should seek permission from the creators of those assets before releasing them with your mod.

- For other modders. You may use my work without special contact with me. My work is free for all true lovers of DoW game series. Just mention about me and Titanium Wars in credits section of your readme files and forum tread start messages. Of course you must receive permissions from true authors of DoW models and only then my additional work over their models and OE-code is free for you. Some of my work is only mine and some other my work is over DoW Community ready-made models and other DoW stuff. Consult with me if it's necessary.

Underlined by me.

[Khorne_1984]

I don't think that the UA mod team did such a thing deliberately... probably it's a misunderstanding!
As far as I know Cylarne, the UA mod team leader had a car accident last week, and he isn't very active in this forum lately (I think he broke both his hands...). Maybe you could PM him and then solve this situation.

[GrOrc]

To Khorne_1984. This situation has been going on for a very long time. UA team is not fond of writing proper credits as I've seen it in the past. Precedents had already been...

[Khorne_1984]

@GrOrc: in the very first page of this thread THERE ARE credits:

- Corsix's Mod Studio - Mostly thanked for making Apocalypse possible.
- Firestorm Over Kronus (FOK) - For pretty much everything, I mean seriously, many hugs and kisses from me.
- Titanium Wars Mod (GrOrc): Apocalypse mod uses some ready-made files (especially OE-code) from Titanium Wars Mod. Thanks to GrOrc.
- Tyranid Mod Team - For their permissions in creating XP2, involving the Tyranids.
- Daemonhunters - For their permissions in the making of XP2, involving the Daemonhunters.
- Thudmeizer - For a lot of things in our mod, especially ai scripts and tons of help. Corrected major SCAR errors with the addition of updating the ai to a current date and created the Daemons race especially, which is HUGE. - AI master, friend.
- Corncobman - For A LOT of FOK's material from Soulstorm, referenced from his mod and very helpful.
- Steel Legion Team (For their fxs and Stormblade)
- Winterdyne - For the use of the Warhound Titan, also very kindly gave us permission himself.
- Catwell - For the Great Unclean One playable in version 1.62+.
- MonkeyXXL - For awesome new textures, OE code, new models, awesome screenies and making the XV9 Hazard Suit. Well missed x team member.
- Andrei - For the tyranid turret and upcoming new units for Apocalypse mod post 1.62.5 + Brass Scorpion.
- Malarz Batonu (Universum Mod) - For many pretty cool features useable for the Apocalypse mods.
- Hanov - For his work on mod version 1.62.535+ while I finish the Grand Release.
- Melooo - For the use of his awesome POK material.
- Gerberman's mod. - For any of the fx's within our mod.
- IronWarrior42 - For his code of clever, oh and lots of help. It is great to have him at my assistance.
- DOWPro Team - For their good fxes, icons and new units.
- Jaylo - For the keen Heroes win condition.
- Ravenmorpheus - For the wargear useable for all commanders within the mod.
- Cuttershane - for his win conditions.
- Evil Isador - For the Switched reality SCAR.
- Zany Reaper - For high quality good models used in the Apocalypse mod.
- Uber Painter Mod (1.1) - For new Paint scheme templates.
- Craftworld mod by ShinGouki - For special thanks one in all for the Eldar.
- Echo - For new units in the version 1.7 mod.
- Everyone for reading the credits, and taking an interest in this fine mod.
- Everyone for your welcomed downloads.

[GrOrc]

To Khorne_1984. Heh! It was placed there only after a major scandal at the forum and by PM. Only after huge (apocalyplic! ) resistance from the UA team. And they have distorted the line. See true line here: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...post1045258387 . It is strange that the natural common requirements induce strong resistance from UA team, isn't it?

[Khorne_1984]

Ok, maybe you're right. I played your mod too and I know that you were the first using models like Gauss Pylon, etc.. But THERE ARE credits for your mod, for FoK mod, for Daemonhunters, Tyrannids, ... But I cannot expalin to myself why all this "hate" for this mod and why all of a sudden?


(Forgive my poor English, but I'm Italian. I hope you can understand what I've written)

[GrOrc]

Ok, maybe you're right. I played your mod too and I know that you were the first using models like Gauss Pylon, etc.. But THERE ARE credits for your mod, for FoK mod, for Daemonhunters, Tyrannids, ... But I cannot expalin to myself why all this "hate" for this mod and why all of a sudden?

Heh! I am not hate anything or anybody. I am not aggressive person really (although I am Grumbling Orc ). UA team repeatedly attacked me in the past without any reason on my part. And this is despite the fact that they are using free a lot of my hardwork. However I'm not angry at them. BUT they MUST behave properly in public places. They MUST respect hardwork of other DoW modders. They MUST obey DoW Community rules. I think that the lack of proper credits section on their Mod DB page violates the DoW Community rules. I expressed my opinion here. Let the moderators and respected persons of DoW Community decide this issue definitively...

P.S. Remember about true author's rights. Gauss Pylon model from TTRU Mod. I just refine its OE-code as for many-many other DoW Community models in TWM framework...

P.P.S. My English is very bad because I am Russian.

[PsykoTenshi]

SIGH. Since I was never any good at pretending anything, I will ask directly: GrOrc, at this point, it really looks to me you simply do not like the UA mod and nearly anything related to it. And due to my curious nature, I'll ask: why?

Regarding the ModDB page, Tyrantarmy is in charge of it if my memory serves me right. Most likely he'll be smiting me for this later, but if you're going to make such a scandal about this, why not ask him to include the credits on the ModDB post too?
Also, I'd like to point out that the credits are included on the download from ModDB, so it is giving some level of credit.

edit(s): oops I got ninja post'd. That's what I get for typing slow. Attacked you?! That is news to me
My curious nature strikes again with: When did such thing happen?


Also, of course the UA mod uses lots of work from other mods! Imagine if every DoW mod could only use code, models, and such they made themselves and weren't allowed to share it. Most likely there would be no DoW modding community.

Crediting the original author is, of course, very important. But...

their Mod DB page violates the DoW Community rules

DoW Community rules? I have never heard of such a thing. In all seriousness, I would like a link to a webpage or something where I can read them.

[GrOrc]

Attacked you?! That is news to me My curious nature strikes again with: When did such thing happen?

Of course, I can post here some "wonderful" old letters from Krronus and Cylarne to me... but I don't think that they will really want it. So I'll have compassion for them... Moderators know about that old stories. That is enough.

Also, of course the UA mod uses lots of work from other mods! Imagine if every DoW mod could only use code, models, and such they made themselves and weren't allowed to share it. Most likely there would be no DoW modding community.

Yes. Many mods use hardwork each other. However all mod teams make it with proper respect and gratitude. Probably the UA team is a remarkable exception from this rule, isn't it?

DoW Community rules? I have never heard of such a thing. In all seriousness, I would like a link to a webpage or something where I can read them.

Oh! I'll not explain you the rules, moderators will do it.

[Gambit]

Ahem, .....
Cylarne, please include proper credits. I ask this of you as a personal favour.
This must end here.

Regardless opinions and points of view, GrOrc has the right to "demand" it.

[Krronus]

What the hell is going on? Serious question here!

Looks like I arrived just in time. Yeah my entire hand is almost healed (EDIT: Ok, I deceived myself) after the car accident and I can type somewhat right now (EDIT: Not anymore). The middle finger is still pretty infected and big but my rib cage is fine now along with my leg not broken. Yes I'm also Cylarne, but this has to be settled now at a dire event going on here...

Anyways, yes I forgot my account password on my account (Cylarne) and I feel pretty ticked right now as there is some infos. going on about Profman, my dear friend and team member, dead when he is not!!! Buddy, I'm very glad you are still alive!!! Thank god, I cried for you for almost 15 minutes saying, "noooo!!" Welcome back from the dead and I'm glad you're ok. Good god I'm glad you're still alive. Also, I am VERY sorry about this creepy information, it should be cleared up tomorrow after I figure out my password to RelicNews. MOD DB - I'll get to it.

And as to GrOrc. You are jealous. You started this whole onslought yourself and you STILL choose to fight us after I REPEATEDLY said that we are no threat to you, go away. You are mad at us because of some PMs. You know what provoked those PMs? You did. My PM to you as Krronus was a mistake, I was jealous, then I took my words back and said I'm sorry and you just pretty much got in a frantic bizarre disgust look on your face.

As to the Cylarne days where I pretended to go to the military because I did not want to mod anymore, I PMed you to compliment on your mod and I wondered if you would join our Mod DB team and you said something like, "I have no interest in your mod. Your mod is only a combiner mod which contains work stolen from other team members creation. I do OE, I do AE, I do everything you can't and your mod has no interest to me", and well after that then, I replied here, on your damn thread and YOU replied to me, "your mod should go to dustbin", after I provided feedback saying to you I enjoyed your mod! YOU have invoked these PMs, not me. YOU have problems, not us, so go away and don't bother us anymore. Please respect the modding community and your competetors. This is immature behavior and you GrOrc are full of lies.

We do not contain 50% of your work, the numbers you made up are fake and you sir are just jealous because you saw SOME of your work in our mod! We (I) have revamped the Apocalypse Mod to my own art which most people love over your mod because we contain content in our mod that you will never possess. I have deleted almost all of your OE work from the start of 1.62.59 and almost NONE of your OE work besides maybe a couple things exists in our mod. You do not own our mod, you have no say in our mod, you are just a jealous 42 year old who is mad and hates the UA mod out of your own doings. You are false, and the truth comes out, your mod would be dead if it were not from the FOK mod either. Hell ALL mods would be dead if it were not from FOK. We, the Apocalypse mod team respects all authors and you just make us look bad. Stop making us look bad, knock it off and mind your own business.

You REPEATEDLY assault us when we REPEATEDLY tell you to stop. You ranked our mod a one, then I tell you I'm sorry for what happened then you rank our mod a three now saying our mod as bad everything, I told you I am sorry, but you sir are just mad, jealous, you harass other mod team members and you are sort of a lunatic speaking up in our thread.

To all moderators: I am very sorry for this but GrOrc, I'm telling you GrOrc is a harrasser and he will not stop until someone gets banned. Please refrain him from posting in our thread as he just makes too much trouble. Thank you.

Back to GrOrc: If you truly do feel that we don't respect other mod team members, you're insane, I'm sorry, but if a FOK team member approaches my face in person, good god I'll give him one hell of a party because their work and his is just truly amazing. You should also contact Tyrantarmy if you like credits to be on our mod db page but you sir have crossed a line.

For those who feel you should go against me or GrOrc, GrOrc is a bad sport.

Thank you.

@Everyone: So what did I miss besides the GrOrc and Profman incident?

[GrOrc]

Ahem, .....
Cylarne, please include proper credits. I ask this of you as a personal favour.
This must end here.

Agree...

Ahem, .....
Regardless opinions and points of view, GrOrc has the right to "demand" it.

UA team must copy their credits from Relicnews starter to their Mod DB starter. This is all what I "demand"... as minimum...

Also maybe UA team will edit their credits with more serious and respectful manner...

[Krronus]

@GrOrc: Contact Tyrantarmy. Not me or our thread...

This must end here.

Agree.

Cylarne, please include proper credits. I ask this of you as a personal favour.

I did

Cylarne, you have the power to end it here. Please man. I personally consider withdrawal at this point, as a sign of maturity.
I cannot ask this of GrOrc (I do not know him, but he is still our brother, please think of this) so I cannot ask him.
That is why, I ask it of you.

I rest my case.

Yes, Gambit please do not imply I'm immature in any way again (As I'm not, just really mad at GrOrc for being childish himself by constant rudeness) and make me look bad in any way like GrOrc did. For now on, bro. Thank you. Not mad at you, just now is not the time.

EDIT: I misunderstood. I'm sorry.

By the way: Krronus is Cylarne???? OK, this just made my ....night (2:30 am here)!!!!!

Surprise.

[Gambit]

Cylarne, you have the power to end it here. Please man. I personally consider withdrawal at this point, as a sign of maturity.
I cannot ask this of GrOrc (I do not know him, but he is still our brother, please think of this) so I cannot ask him.
That is why, I ask it of you.

I rest my case.


EDIT: Once again, you were a faster "gun" (even after suffering a hand injury). Thanks.

By the way: Krronus is Cylarne???? OK, this just made my ....night (2:30 am here)!!!!!

Edit2: Hello Tenshi

[GrOrc]

And as to GrOrc. You are jealous. You started this whole onslought yourself and you STILL choose to fight us after I REPEATEDLY said that we are no threat to you, go away. You are mad at us because of some PMs. You know what provoked those PMs? You did. My PM to you as Krronus was a mistake, I was jealous, then I took my words back and said I'm sorry and you just pretty much got in a frantic bizarre disgust look on your face.

Krronus was first who spam on my topic and PM. Cylarne next. Maybe you really want that I'll publish your strange PM messages. Let the DoW Community would laugh at them. I was really unpleasant to receive letters from you with strange statements...

As to the Cylarne days where I pretended to go to the military because I did not want to mod anymore, I PMed you to compliment on your mod and I wondered if you would join our Mod DB team and you said something like, "I have no interest in your mod. Your mod is only a combiner mod which contains work stolen from other team members creation. I do OE, I do AE, I do everything you can't and your mod has no interest to me", and well after that then, I replied here, on your damn thread and YOU replied to me, "your mod should go to dustbin", after I provided feedback saying to you I enjoyed your mod! YOU have invoked these PMs, not me. YOU have problems, not us, so go away and don't bother us anymore. Please respect the modding community and your competetors. This is immature behavior and you GrOrc are full of lies.

I answered you with irritation AFTER your disrespectful letters to me. This is old story and it is not so interest for all. If I'll post your true old messages for all then you should be ashamed...

Now I demand only common requirements for all mods. Read my posts here carefully. I am not attack on UA team. I have no negative emotions. Just credit other's hardwork properly on your Mod DB starter page. You MUST post proper credits everywere. This is all what you must do correctly within DoW Community.

We do not contain 50% of your work,

OK OK. Maybe this is old info that I saw from some old version of your mod. Maybe now you mask my work by overwriting my files in 3Dsmax and OE. However I am still see at least 68 my whe and whm files right now in latest version of your mod. I downloaded it now special for this discussion -- your mod is not interested for me really. And I can easy to find my AE-code in your mod if I'll want it. But...

...But this is not really interest for me. My interest is -- you must have correct behaviour to other's hardwork. Now I really see that you have no respect to DoW Community. Normal person just credit other's hardwork without big scandal as you ready to make easy. So big your message for so little problem. You really demonstrate negative emotions to me. I am not. I have no any negative emotions to you and your team.

Just obey DoW Community common rules.

[Krronus]

Just obey DoW Community common rules.

I do.
Ha ha ha! Ok, you are hilarious and acting like an immature 42 year old now and please realize this. Stop GrOrc. Thanks.

I will be gone after tomorrow for another while, maybe a month, and in the meantime I will not appreciate you spamming this thread. Yes I'm still at the hospital. It is not pleasant.

[Ewokz]

I'm not going to back sit moderate but here's a bit of advice, you guys should probably end this squabble and go and settle this via PM, not in this thread.


Krronus/Cylarne I'm pretty sure you can recover your account password via email or if thats not possible making a thread in Forum Issues and getting assistance from the forums moderators.

[Dante551]

Oh in the name of the emperor just stop holy crap GrOrc i have been here on 3 different occasions and i see you starting these Bloody thread wars its ridiculous i do not see cylarne going on a mad rampage on you.....hell i even used to respect you GrOrc for your modding ability's but that is slowly fading into irritation just leave the UA team alone you have your own mod to worry about anyways......bickering is stupid anyways....Cylarne just ignore he will go away when nobody responds to him......

[GrOrc]

I do.
Stop GrOrc. Thanks.

OK. This is all. I did everything I could for reminding you and your team of your debt before the DoW Community. A further consideration is the concern of the moderators and your concern.

I will be gone after tomorrow for another while, maybe a month, and in the meantime I will not appreciate you spamming this thread. Yes I'm still at the hospital. It is not pleasant.

I wish you a speedy recovery. Good luck.

Thanks to all for attention. Good modding without any negative emotions. Viva Warhammer 40000! Viva Relic! Viva our beloved DoW!

[Krronus]

Yes, thank you.

I wish you a speedy recovery. Good luck.

Thanks.

Thank you Ewokz for this information. I'll try to update the first post with no more DarkSoul69 rumors.

[Gorb]

For reference, the "DoW Community" (aka RelicNews) rules on sharing content and IP rights.

Also, the off-topic stops here.

GrOrc, in future, please conduct such queries via Private Message. If you believe you are receiving negative attention in PM, you can report the PM in question.

Cylarne, if you are having account issues, you should take it up with a board admin - posting on another member's account raises all sorts of negative connotations, even if you forgot your own password (and remembered someone elses').

There is no need to reply to this message. Just obey it.

[RT2]

@Demetrius: How are you going with the contemptor?

@Psykotenshi: What do you think of the idea of Trench warfare?

[Kregan]

Cylarne please, just give proper credit to people and their hard work in UA moddb page like everyone else does. GrOrc have the point there, random lads who somehow discover your mod via moddb may be confused thinking that all this glorious work was done by ua members. Your team is already doing amazing job, all those titans and new units, holy shit it's amazing!. Just follow the rules and everyone will be happy.
One more thing guys… can you please stop fighting, bashing, insulting each other?. GrOrc, stop making all those threats about "consequences that will never be the same" if Cylarne don't credit others work properly, just ask nicely. On the other hand, calling someone crazy old jealous man is not quite right, not at all.
DoW community is rather small and anyone who want to contribute and create something for others for free is GOLD, share your stuff with others and work together in peace.
Overall, you are both magnificent bastards!.
By the way, don't use flying units in dow, this is the reason why soulstorm was terrible... and pardon my english, sometimes it's hurt to read that heresy, i know.
I hope your wounds will heal nicely Cylarne, take care man.
Well, that's all i want to say, keep up the good work gentlemen's.

[RT2]

With the Eldar Phoenix, why does its lasers fire straight forward?

Is it because the vert and horiz markers weren't set correctly for the animations?

Anyone any ideas?

[demetrius]

@Demetrius: How are you going with the contemptor?

it is done.

[RT2]

@Demetrius: How are you going with texturing?
How are you going with markers/helpers?

[Cosmocrat]

@ RT 2: Phoenix lazers shoot straight because their beam weapons FX do not have a proper FX transform modifier applied. You need to fix this issue of the beams not hitting their target via Object Editor man. You need to add following modifiers to the beam FX from the event tap (You need to find the actual entry for the FX you want to have aim up first then you seek out the motion where it's used). Next righta fter you found the right FX, you just go into event properties tab on the left, while you have selected the FX containing Motion/Action (better use motion ^^ so you don't have to bother with clauses the Motion has possibly assigned preventing it to be played when you hit play to see results of your work).
Following modifiers need to be added then :
fx_lenght "distance"
fx_other "target"
fx_target_group_name "weapon_range_upgrade_(insert your future hardpoint here as it needs to be the same as the later harpoint function call via AE, possiblye selections main,right,left,shoulder))
fx_transform "self_to_other"
marker "name of your origin start FX helper here (In this case somehting like barrel,muzzle and similar)"

Also if you're confused about what's the difference in OE between Motions and Actions here is your answer:

Motions - Contain the basic animation of a model and all the FX and stuff is assigned just right here! It will determine what's shown off on the screen once the Motion is played.

Actions - These one are the actual files which are called by the DoW programm inner structure to play certain animations of Walking, shooting, dieing and pretty everything non special that happens during an units life time.
Actions derive directly from Motions but in addition to that they do offer you to the possibility to add conditions to your motion to make it play under special circumstances, like you pretty much want to let your walking animation beeing played once your object starts actually moving, shooting, idleing and doing other sparkly things.

Conditions are an accumulations of several clauses which are basically the programming part of the OE and the interface between the AE/Game Engine and your unit. You specify the commun file Types quite well known from imperative languages like C/C++ which are in this case three datatypes beeing there named:

-boolean (calls and evaluates to whether true 1 or false 0 which is used for shooting and tracking animations (Shooty? Yes? Play da friggin animations ya basterd machine!))

-float (This estimates an dezimal number given by the user and returns a value for example: Velocity bigger then zero? Yes? Play the "move yer lazy ass yo fat nurgle monsta" animation yo daim machine will ya!?)

-string (This obviously wants a string entered by the user. This filetype is not used that often but when it's used then it goes for UPGRADES! Example: You clicked the "upgrade to shoop da whoop laz0r" and as soon as the
upgrade timer runs at 100% the program will return that string. If you specify that certain string "shoop da whoop laz0r" as a condition now, the animations containing the FX's and the Mesh information to fire your lazer will suddenly be played!)

I hope that this made it somehow clearer to you of how the OE works especially in conjunction with the game engine itself. For more questions please send me a PM in order to keep the thread clean of technical talking to not freak out the innocents in here .

@ Demetrius: Can we see your awesome new creation of a contemptor please? :Puppy:


That's all from me, now have a nice day everybody!

-Cosmocrat

[RT2]

@Cosmocrat: Thanks for the run down there man, it makes it seem so much simpler.
I roughly understood actions and motions.
Thanks again man. Look after yourself.


@Demetrius: Have you set the stale for the weapons so they can be cycled in OE/Ingame?

[Dante551]

@Cosmocrat if i made a model of the typhoon missile launcher turret would you consider using it??

[Tyrantarmy6]

Well, it seems I've missed a little war around here.
Ok then. I'll post the credits on mod db. if I can't because of the character limit then i'll try to post a link to the credits.
Though a PM would indeed have been better. And we always credited the TWM. It's just that Gr0rc never saw it as good enough.

So yeah. I hope this satifies you Gr0rc.

[RT2]

@Dante551: I would like to see it ingame,

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while thinking about it through a migraine.
These defenses would go good spawned for Listening posts like a set of turrets used to be in UA.
Upgradable through the style of weapon they were using.

[demetrius]

@Demetrius: How are you going with texturing?
How are you going with markers/helpers?

waitingfor you to show on skype and help,modelling as usualy dontdo anything other,no texture no animate,no importing in game.

what can i model next after i finish this???what i like of course.

[Gorb]

Well, it seems I've missed a little war around here.
Ok then. I'll post the credits on mod db. if I can't because of the character limit then i'll try to post a link to the credits.
Though a PM would indeed have been better. And we always credited the TWM. It's just that Gr0rc never saw it as good enough.

So yeah. I hope this satifies you Gr0rc.

There is no need to incite drama by causing offense to another member, which is plainly what you have attempted.

Either resolve this maturely by PM or don't resolve it at all. I don't need another off-topic drama contest.

@GrOrc: please do not post in this thread again. If you have an issue with a member's forum behaviour, please Report the post. We do not moderate ModDB; if you want action taken there you should take it up with ModDB staff.

I understand the point you are trying to make, and we here at RelicNews support the upholding of IP content with regards to games modding. However, repeatedly taking a thread off-topic is not the way to go about it.

Thanks

[PsykoTenshi]

@ RT2: Doggy wants bone! Now seriously, It looks interesting, but with my limited knowledge, my question is: how far it can be taken? I assumed trenches (or at least the doggy bone one) will be unpassable by vehicles and "garrisonable" by infantry which would be in the terrain inside the trench with high cover bonuses, but just that. Still, that'd give them a considerable advantage over assaulting forces, specially if they have heavy weapons like heavy bolters/missile launchers.

@ mirceamrc: Firstly: Welcome! Glad you found this apocalyptastic mod
If I understood correctly, both Actual and NR won't launch?
To get NR working you have to install this other two mods as well. That's reason #1 for NR failing to activate:
Tyranids mod
Inquisition DaemonHunters mod
In case you already have them installed, then I am curious to know why your NR doesn't launch. Send me PM?

would be possible to use models Which mod hunters for the sisters of battle? with the respective permissions of course.

The problem here is getting the permissions from the (afaik) MIA creators of the Witch Hunters mod.
And what is this Cabal of evil mod? I feel too lazy to google at this moment.

[RMX]

If you're open to suggestions, Demetrius, I think that Dark Eldar and SoB get less gifts than the other races. DE got the Shadow and Reaper and sisters have the Ophanium as a WIP, right?

[METAL GOD]

would be possible to use models Which mod hunters for the sisters of battle? with the respective permissions of course.
And for DE some things of Cabal of evil mod?

[Croaxleigh]

They won't get permission to use the Witch Hunters models. People weren't even able to get permission to finish the work on that mod, so trying to get permission to use parts of it in another mod just ain't gonna' happen.

[Dante551]

Kindof sad really that it has to be left unfinished. oh well maybe Cyalrne and Cosmocrat can eventually do some models like theirs

[RT2]

@Demetrius: Yep, What ever you like, and the forums can come up with plenty of idea with image links. You will get plenty of suggestions on here.

@PsykoTenshi: Have you played the SP Trench level, where I think as guard you have to rescue a downed thunderhawk? and or protect marines.
Trenches could be wide enough for vehicles to navigate. With soulstorm we have the luxury of flyers, so trenches aren't that big of a challenges.

@Croaxleigh: that confuses the heck out of me. I can only think mental health issue from some kind of paranoid delusions(Psychosis).
Because I know the SOB/WH are two totally different armies. Having played them both for many years.
Just like the GK/DH are two totally different armies. NEW GK/OLD GK are totally different as well.
Oh the fond memories of GK terms and landraiders taking on a 2,000 pt army in 2nd ed. with the tda inquisitor.

[demetrius]

@rmx they have nothing for know.

@rt2 what ever i like and will imported in game so that i dont model for nothing,except practice.

@metal god do you have link for cabal of evil mod??never heard.