Ultimate Apocalypse - 1.72.5 Released!

[demetrius]

cosmocrat you have animation of xv-9 to see his moves??

[titlams]

That looks awesome simply outstandin. But umm I hate to be that guy but how many polys is that beast?

[RevanFan]

That thing looks incredible!

[Krronus]

@demetrius: Oh, dude. To save time and effort you wouldn't have to model your model down to every spec of the scheme like the (darn what are those called) little minigun power coord strips. Save that for textures bro. A suggestion that is if you don't wish to add every single spec.

I disagree. If he wants to put a lot of effort into it, I think he should. It looks better for those using it, and it makes the work feel more accomplishing for the person making it.

Aye, but you can just simply add textures to it to make it stand out. Regardless of model quality and design.

[RevanFan]

@demetrius: Oh, dude. To save time and effort you wouldn't have to model your model down to every spec of the scheme like the (darn what are those called) little minigun power coord strips. Save that for textures bro.

I disagree. If he wants to put a lot of effort into it, I think he should. It looks better for those using it, and it makes the work feel more accomplishing for the person making it.

[RMX]

It's all fine as long as the DoW engine can handle it well

[Pursanator]

@RevanFan - Point is the model may be TOO detailed if he puts everything in DoW has limits xD

It's all fine as long as the DoW engine can handle it well

And that is the ultimate question

@Krronus - Apologies to the late re-welcome. Good to have you back mate

@Cosmocrat - Very nice model I am impressed lol, keep up the great work with oooooooooooo idk some sort of giant Tau robot *COUGH* THIS GIANT ROBOT *COUGH* hehehehe

[Gorb]

It's all fine as long as the DoW engine can handle it well

The largest model in the game is the Baneblade, sitting at around 10,000 polys.

This thing is 300,000 polys (or more) and not even finished.

I'll let you figure it out

[Cosmocrat]

Yes i agree that it has WAY too much stuff applied which makes it more likely to "bake" details later into one texture to aply onto a lower polygoned model. But anyway that model is REALLY awesome demetrius! And no i don't have any animatons yet for the XV-9 as i just prepared it for that process of animationg it. But they're coming soon :3.

[Setsuna269]

If I not wrong,Xv-9 suits could have fly ability right?
Progress:I'm trying to model Dow 2 Eldar Stronghold.

[Rytlock]

I have a request for the uppcomming update. if it's not too much trouble, could you please make it so that the Eldar Vyper honour guard in the campaign gets the same weapon uppgrades as the normal ones? I ask this because I hate the missile launcher that it has. it is so annoying when I put up a strong firing line using my other honourguards, only to have it blown across a huge area because one lucky ork mannaged to get close enough for the vyper's missile launchers AoE to affect my own units.

I understand if you won't do this, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

[Krronus]

Progress:I'm trying to model Dow 2 Eldar Stronghold.

What do you mean by that? Do you need help or are you just posting, "hey, this is what I'm doing... and it will be awesome!"

@Rytlock: If Cylarne won't, I will, I'll maybe give the Vyper upgrades.

@Gorb: Baneblade biggest? I don't understand how that is?

@RT2: If that is your goal, modelling every unit existant in DOW; is it more of a collection or are you certain that all models will be made in game? Making all of them models without animation assistance can get overwhelming and will not be accomplished in game for all, by basic logic.

[demetrius]

The largest model in the game is the Baneblade, sitting at around 10,000 polys.

This thing is 300,000 polys (or more) and not even finished.

I'll let you figure it out

my 1 leg is 10000 polys,it is not 300k,only cosmocrat knows how big it is.

cronus is right but i didnt model for years,started in blender now few months on max,my 3d max course will start soon,so i dont no what textures can cover and what can not,those wires in canon can be covered by textures,i am practising tthats why adding many details,when i proceed it to cosmocrat,he can rework sam parts to lower polys how big are dow 2 models??

[Gorb]

Roughly the same size as DoW I models

As for the model size, you showed it on a previous page:

@Gorb: Baneblade biggest? I don't understand how that is?

The size of the model in polygons has nothing to do with how large it is ingame.

[Setsuna269]

To brother Krronus:My pleasure to talk to you,our Great Leader!
As you can see,I'm just starting to work two day ago and need more of things to learn.
I chosen Eldar Stronghold to be my first project for some reason:
-One of my farvorite race.
-We need more custom buildings.
-Model for Webway Assembly upgraded or Super building.
If you're interested in my project,your help will be great to me.I'll post some picture of my project as soon as I can and depend on how look it is.I also ask to help if I need to!
Good day to you!
-Little sister Setsuna! .

[inharntdispoile]

Is there any chance you could make the stormblade more accurate?

Also here's the new grey knight warhound: http://media.photobucket.com/image/t...riorFides1.jpg

[Dante551]

i want one

[Setsuna269]

Me too!

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But it look like Black Templar model and may be higher than normal Warhound.

[Setsuna269]

*ALL MY BIG BROTHERS!YOU SHOULD READ THIS!
In case searching information about different way for other race to chose their way,I'm completely SHOCK to reconize this:
Game Workshop has PLANNED EVERYTHING!EVERY SINGLE RACES ALREADY HAD FOUR AND FIVE WAY TO CHOSE BUT THEY ARE NOT CLEARLY TELL US!
Here are the list of what we knew and not yet:
1)Chaos(Gods Chosen):
-Khorne
-Nurgle
-Tzeentch
-Slaanesh
-Undivided
2)Space MarinesFamous Chapel Chosen):
-Ultramarines
-Blood Angels
-Imperial Fists
-Blood Ravens
-Black Templars
3)Eldar(Gods Chosen):
-Ausuryan:Yin yang symbol(Ultimate Titan could be one of Phoenix Lords)
-Khaine:Red hand symbol(Ultimate Titan is only one Avatar but stronger)
-Vaul(Ultimate Titan is Phantom,Cobra and Scorpion should be lower tier Titan)
-Cegorach
-Isha:Teared eye symbol.
4)Ork(Forces Chosen):
-Gazim the Great Despot of Dregruk.
-Ork Warlord Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka.
-Urgok the Unstoppable.
-Gorsnisk Magash the Over-Fiend of Octarius.
-Empire(Undivide choice)
5)Tau(Casles chosen):
-Fire Casle.
-Warter Casle.
-Earth Casle.
-Air Casle.
-Ethereal/Celestial Casle.
6)Necrons(C'tan-Gods Chosen):
-Night Bringer.
-Deceiver.
-Void Dragon.
-Outsider.
-Necrontyr(Undivide Choice).
7)Dark Eldar(Kabals Chosen)
I'm not sure about this so I can't chose anything.
8)Tyranids(Genestealer Chosen):
-Genestealer Cult.
-Genestealer Hybrid.
-Genestealer Invasion Force.
-Genestealer Magus.
-Genestealer Patriarch.
Not sure about this too!
9)Imperial Guards(Regiments Chosen):
-Cadian Shock Troopers.
-Catachan Jungle Fighters.
-Valhallhan Ice Warriors.
-Vostroyan Eirstborn.
-Imperial Army(Undivide Choice)
10)Inquisition(Order Chosen):
-Ordo Malleus(Gray Knights)
-Ordo Xenos(DeadWatch)
-Ordo Hereticus(Witch Hunters)
-Adepta Sororitas(Sister of Battle)
-Inquisition(Undivide Choice)
*So there are totally TEN Races and should be ten race because ten is perfect number.
-Now,when we pick up a race(example SM)In start of the game you only get a STANDARD HQ,not any builder.
-Next,Chose your Chapel Researchs and now you can buy their builder.
-Build Your own Chapel HQ then play like normal.
I think we need a lot of time and support from other mod to do this.Some informations maybe not right and I hope all of you can forgive me for that.
Finally,that all my informations and ideas so far,I hope it could help in our future version of the mod.Now,I'll go to the College then back to home to continue my progess.
Good day to all of you!
-Little sister Setsuna!

[inharntdispoile]

A request for tier one for CSM could their first available infantry unit be renegade guardsmen? also though not that big of a deal for sentinels weapon upgrades it says "upgrades heavy weapons teams weapon to auto cannon"

[kirbanator]

A request for the guardsmen, could all of the sergeants, this includes stormtroopers and regular guardsmen, have helmets?

[Krronus]

@Setsuna: Depends if I'm interested or not.
Too many paths, not needed really.

Speaking on behalf of Cylarne:

A request for tier one for CSM could their first available infantry unit be renegade guardsmen?

Denied.

also though not that big of a deal for sentinels weapon upgrades it says "upgrades heavy weapons teams weapon to auto cannon"

Em, yes but it doesn't have to be a part of the patch as no UCS stuff will be included.

A request for the guardsmen, could all of the sergeants, this includes stormtroopers and regular guardsmen, have helmets?

Granted, we just don't know what mod has that model. If you truly want helmets, point the model out to us.

[demetrius]

i played yesterday a little after few weeks of non playing,well i play other games to,but didnt play anything keep modelling and modelling,the strongest races are necron tau and eldar,the weakest,orcs,sob,and dark eldar.



cylarne did you make mortyrs and laser team as squads??

i will play fok today to see which units can be imported maybe to late for this release.

orcs
cybork body for warboos??
force shield for bik mek???



robo hands looks not to good,must find tutorial for robo hands.

[Apocalypse]

Just played an amazing game on Apocalypse mode (units/buildings free and built instant). Me and a friend against orks. More than one superweapon was used and all titans and relic units were built, lost and then built again several times before the Ork bases (they made a whole base in seconds almost as soon as the last was destroyed) were taken out. Although I am a little ashamed of using a warp storm super weapon on my friends base, annihilating his imperial guard from the map just before victory was attained but it has such a nice graphical effect I could not resist lol.

[Setsuna269]

Awesome Brother Demetrius!Your Nemesis Dreadknight progess is moving fast and smoothly.I think I should learn from you and brother Cosmocrat about modelling.
*I have a questionreadknight is some kind of super unit or Titan in the mod may be that can take one on one battle with Deamon Prince right?So it will replace Deamon Hunters Warhound Titan or we can have them both?

[Shuma]

he can rework sam parts to lower polys how big are dow 2 models??

Largest DoW II model is the Demon Prince, 10,228 polys.

[kirbanator]

Well their are sergeants in the FOK mod that have helmets for regular guard squad sergeants but not for storm trooper squad sergeants. For the regular guard sergeants their are four models i think and one of the models is with out a helmet.

[ProfMan96]

@krronus : I have to admit, setsuna's idea would make the game somewhat...different. I think it would reduce the number of unit choices for certain races...which would make the game less hectic and more towards picking the right path to beat the enemy picking his path. But that would take a heck of a long time to code....I assume

on a side note, I'm working on a warhammer 40k fanfiction/blog. I'll post the link here once the blog has been updated

Else have an apocalyptic day

[demetrius]

Awesome Brother Demetrius!Your Nemesis Dreadknight progess is moving fast and smoothly.I think I should learn from you and brother Cosmocrat about modelling.
*I have a questionreadknight is some kind of super unit or Titan in the mod may be that can take one on one battle with Deamon Prince right?So it will replace Deamon Hunters Warhound Titan or we can have them both?

you will learn form watching 100 of 3 dmax tutorials like me,i am not part of the team,i think deamon hunter titan will be replaced with apropriate titan,ask cylarne what he have on mind.

[Tomb Deathwing]

Hey I wonder is still possible for a few mods i like ...if I all of you have time...those are little mods.

-Can you increase the range of the gauss flayer of the heavy destroyer ,Destroyer,Pariah, and more specifically the Necron warriors I like the range a little longer because I feel it's too short ...I Will very happy if just increase a little at least the range....not the damage if any of you feel it unbalanced

-Can it increased the range effect of the lightning field....Too short T^T ..a 0.5 wide it will be great.

-The former ability of the lord destroyer "Stasis field" as a defensive ability for ,the obelisk ,the pillar of darkness or the energy beacon...At least one of them i will be happy.

-This is the Mod I really want because of the disappointment of his use.
""I will be very gladly if you remove the sky scarab...because those thing always keep sticking in the terrain unable to move...for compensate that give the ground attack scarab a high range jump ability to compensate this...Why High range :Because If they are for overwhelming forces a high jump range is useful for ambush or retreating forces...

What did you thing gentle mens...And followers of the apocalyptic ways...?

[inharntdispoile]

There is a very annoying issue for with some of the vehicle units in this game to my knowledge so far i have only dealt with in the marauder bomber and land raiders:
the issue is when the unit is attack or being attacked i cant i make the unit move (it "ignores" my command) unless i go in and switch it to the stop "stance" (stance with the green hand) then the unit listens to my move commands

has any one else faced this issue?

[Setsuna269]

Necron Warriors may be Tomb Deathwing!Because the other(Destroyer,Heavy Destroyer and Pariah)has fast moving speed advantage and heavy armor so we shouldn't increase their range or firing rate too if you ask to.
*Counting down for new patch release!

[Tomb Deathwing]

Guys on a side note....

How can I upload an Avatar for I use here ..(one of my own)?

[Setsuna269]

To Inharntdispoile: Oh you remind about that!The same thing happen to Chaos Predator and Land Raider(if I not wrong) but it really happen to Chaos Predator.I upgraded Lascanon for them and set them in range stance then command them to attack.When enemy unit sighted,they stop moving but not shoot anything.If the enemy come closer,some time they shoot some time they won't.But this thing not happen if I not upgrade them to Lascanon!Does this mean there are something wrong with Lascanon range?

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To Tomb Deathwing:I think we can't.Customs Avatar option has been removed long ago.Only some older member still had their customs Avatar today.

[Apocalypse]

Playing as Tau they certainly need some new stuff and some tweaking imo. I love them as a race but in some areas their too strong in this mod and in others their a bit weak, for example late game railgun tanks and Kroot knarlacs are no match for land raiders, baneblades and worst of all, higher tier units like Warhound titan/deamon prince etc. So this new walker and such you have in the works would be excellent to fill their higher tier role. But on the other hand their killer early game because their really easy to tech up with. Being building based, it does not take long until your at top tier tech (hammerheads/knarlac/ethereal) while your opponent may have only just started fielding their first vehicles. Maybe add a research or two in between that requires said tier buildings but costs slightly less than other races? so the tau still have to wait for research before fielding higher tier units?

I am not the best player so it could just be my low skill thats at fault, anyone got tips for taking out baneblades and land raiders? ive used hammerheads but their soft while baneblades and LR's are hard as nails. Broadsides are a bit slow but are a bit more useful.

[Cylarne_04]

Ah, don't worry, all weapons will be reworked (After the patch). At least everything will attack aircraft, relic units will be easier to kill and if you have 100% anti infantry troops, at least they'll damage vehicles a little bit. Also three new armor types will be added, (Titan, Super Structure and Living Metal). PLEASE do not ask me to add more armor types.

Countdown initiated, new patch updates were added and 1st post updated. 24 hours remaining.

@Rytlock: Sigh, fine. I'll fix it up for you.
@Tomb Deathwing: I think I might add the Beacons a bit of fun stuff aye? I'll just add in those Necron abilities too for the heck of it.
@demetrius: Yeah, the new heavy weapons teams can reinforce... with Guardsmen !
@Setsuna: I just split the Imperial Guard at least.

IDH Titan: I MIGHT keep the Warhound if it were to be retextured to IDH patterns. I'd DEFINITELY be honored to code the Dreadknight for you demetrius. Since I would be coding it, you'd be VERY amazed.

[Setsuna269]

To Apocalypse:I think you are really Dow rookie player and need more to learn.Tau are most highgest technology race in game so that mean any other race that strong in vehicles rather than infantry(example:Imperial Guards) were no match for them.In other words,Tau is tank hunter race.Ork SoB Tyranyd and CSM are Tau most dangerous enemy so you have not thing to fear BaneBlade or LandRaider when playing Tau.
One last thing you should know that Tau strong in infantry(squads) not vehicles(tanks) and most Tau suits are effective against vehicles,most Tau vehicles effective against infantry.So when you met BaneBlade again,bring a lot of xv-88 suits or use Commander teleport to then BOOM! and you'll be fine =) .Oh! and use Ion Canon regulary,it very useful!
That all my tips for you.Hope it help!
*Warning*Red Alert!*Red Alert!*
Counting down:21 Hours until EXTERMINATUS! =)

[Gorb]

Setsuna, technically Eldar and Necrons are more technologically advanced. As are Dark Eldar. And Tau technology only exceeds Imperial/Golden Age technology in various areas

[kirbanator]

Thanks for considering my request. It always bugged me that you saw heavily armed men with armor but no helmets. It always screamed shoot me in the head.

[Shuma]

Setsuna, technically Eldar and Necrons are more technologically advanced. As are Dark Eldar. And Tau technology only exceeds Imperial/Golden Age technology in various areas

Actually as far as i know there's nothing the Tau have that the Imperium doesn't have, they just use the technology differently and field it differently, for example the imperium does have railguns, but they use them on their space ships, although i think there are even imperial tanks that do use railguns but i'm not sure on that. The whole "Tau are super advanced" thing is a misconception considering that depending on your viewpoint, even the Orks could be more advanced, never forget that the greenskins have the best teleportation technology around, second only maybe to that of the necrons, god damn orks.

[Tomb Deathwing]

True.....For my view only Eldar/Dark Eldar and Necron are the Pinnacle of technology because they have a Status of Ancient...The Rest of the race is variety , One could look more archaic than another but that is their tech-tree they develop

[Setsuna269]

I know all your case but Eldar,IG and Necrons are exist millennia ago and Tau are youngest race in WH40K Universe.They are the most rapidly expanding,growing and advanced tecnology so it worth a bit right?But that is what Codex said.In game Tau are most deadly Tank-hunter,anti vehicles race and can shoot down Eldar&IG Super Tanks or Necrons Monolith(even Doomday Phalanx).
Any way I agree that Ork is advanced tecnology too because they can loot anything or create everything from trash.
-The 1st place go to Ork! =))
Please upload to diffirent site,filefront is suck with me.
*Counting down:12 hours until EXTERMINATUS!

[Apocalypse]

Ah ok I will try and use more stealth suits and xv-88. Thanks for the tips. I had a max pop cap filled with them (playing apocalypse mod so they all built instantly) and they do, epecially in those numbers make short work of most things. Although I am a chaos player at heart so playing as Tau is difficult, I guess ill just learn more on them.

[Setsuna269]

Anyone played OPFWH40K?It a Warhammer 40K mod for old Operation Flashpoint:Cold War patch Resistance v1.96 and look very awesome!
All Titans are in progress and almost done with their real height and power what we can't feel in Dow.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/OFPWH40K/topic/2013036/1/
Patch 3.1 6/4/2011(need patch 3.0):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2R1U734
Patch 3.0:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PELVPI9H
More information about installing:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/OFPWH40K/topic/4219085/1/
Enjoy while we are waiting for the next patch:The other side of Warhammer 40k Universe!
Counting down:11 hours until EXTERMINATUS!

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To Apocalypse:You wellcome!I'll give you any tips,hints or tricks for any races if you want to.

[Quak0r]

@Setsuna269
http://s1.zetaboards.com/OFPWH40K/topic/4219085/1/

-Dawn of War PC game developers team – many models ripped off the game BUY IT!
-Steel Legion DOW mod – I tried to contact you, but got no answer! Please, I really hope you don’t mind! Get their super DOW mod here: http://www.steellegion.org/

So this mod explicitly uses assets without permission and even redistributes assets from a commercial product?

[Setsuna269]

To Qua0kor:I don't know,I'm not their mod team etheir.Just posting some Dow spin off to share with other fans.Anyway I think it could be big trouble or not because there are a lot of games mod using each other material without permissons.
It not a crime,It just all about giving the Fans a good time in their life.Are you agree?
Counting down:10 hours until EXTERMINATUS!

[Kuorkuron]

Hi! Great mod! A little sugestion for Dark Eldar super unit.....
There is an unofficial Epic 40k supplement named Epic Raiders.
With a Dark Eldar titan.

[Setsuna269]

To Kuorkuron:Wellcome to the forums!
Your suggestion unit has been mentioned before by brother Dante511.
Counting down:9 hours until EXTERMINATUS!

[Cosmocrat]

@Setsuna269: Using other mod teams material without any permission is not good. You shall not use property which is not your own, without having any permission! If you really want to have a certain unit but have no permission to take it, then make that one on your own or let it be! Anything else is simply not good in every way of view.

@Kuorkon: I am really curious about that Dark Eldar Titan. Yet we're planning to use the Dark Eldar Shadow super-heavy grav tank. A link to your "Titan" would be appreciated.

[Tomb Deathwing]

Hey guys Can I ask a Blessing for this....

the Aeonic Orb...

Will you allowed to me to make a picture art from it in Deviantart...I am starting to fond that behemont ((Like a tribute)) the credit will be for all of you. or the creator if I know the name :?