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So no, its not teamcolourable. I know how the RSH to WTP thing works. I just thought you guys worked on a WTP. Gonna check on it. Also yeah, you can send it to me anytime so I can start working on it. No I do not have winter assault now. It has been uninstalled for the reason of full hard drives.
[EDIT] What's new in CS5?.. gee.. I started with CS4, so I don't really know what the changes were. Sorry.
[EDIT] Would you be so kind as to supply the correct RGDs as well?.. Saves time.
So yeah i don't have actually the newest .rgd's as Cylarne is doing the Attributejob yet you might ask him then for all necessary files as all lines end up at him ^^.
Holy Jumboly
Um... Holy Jumboly.
Ok, so I reread the posts. Couple things I must add.
The mod is still not downloadable. To all... 1.6 will be done before Christmas... not today or tomorrow, srry.Why? The mod version currently compared to the epicness of 1.6 is crappy. I'm not exaggerating. Krronus's list of the future covers all of it, though I am not sharing anything secret about it just yet. Krronus also wants to see jaw droppers, not... "oh my god, I love this mod! Oh wait the game crashed. F***!" The mod versions currently as well still needs to be patched. Though hands down it's better than 1.59.
But unfortunately. My original computer crashed! 1.59.5. The mod version I was about to finish upon that very last minute... lost! So now I'm pissed! It was supposed to be done today. So anyways, I patched up version 1.59.4 with a few added extras with my crappy slow laptop and I released that to the team. However I can't test anything, I know not what I created and changed without enhanced mind vision.
So anyways, thank you Whiteshield for the new teamcolorable if you ever get the chance and I'll see what I can do.
EDIT: 12:34 PM
Alright, alright. My dad took the computer to Best Buy to get it fixed. The Geek Squad will take good care of things... I hope. I'm not remaking 1.59.5 yet since I feel hope for its recovery. I'm lazy anyways. I know not when it will be fixed. But when it is... I can get started on whatever all of you want. Even the stuff Profman96, Slimbuddha an that other dude talked about.
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 26th Nov 10 at 10:38 AM.
You guys might as well DL the Teamcolourable necron skins on skins at hive world terra if I'm gonna make the doomsday TC. That way everything will be balanced out.
Did that. Necron structures as well are team colorable.
you included the necron pylon right?
Ok, I'm just going to give my nonsensical opinion on the mod, or at least its current released state. (1.592 I think I have.) Is it just me, or the necrons really overpowered in this mod, even in just the typical game (not the XP1). I mean, they can produce multiple copies of their tier 3 titan, each of which can theoretically produce entire armies. The Titan itself doesn't take up any choices, meaning that you can combine it with multiple siege monoliths (which are seemingly tier 3.5 titans that can be deep striked.) Both monoliths and siege monoliths appear to be buildings rather then Tanks, meaning they have resistance to things that would seemingly counter them or be expected to counter them. (I'm looking at you Tier 5 Tau cannon)
Just with the tier 3 and 3.5 units, they can be a match for practically every other army, even when they starting bringing in their Tier 5 units. Then we throw in the Doomsday monolith, that not only has most of the advantages of the other 2, and the strength of Tier 5 Titan... but also acts as a giant oversized and over-ranged Res Orb as well. While some might say that this is in fact a weakness rather then a strength due to the lack of a normal super weapon, in larger games (such as the infamous 450 caps), after a major battle when your sending a second wave in, you can effectively reach/create a 600+ Cap army. (Doing this crashed my comp)
Also, I'm not sure if this is purposeful or not, but there is the occasional glitch where you can use one Doomsday Monolith (not restored) to produce 2 restored and active DM's. Next time that it happens, I'll try to get screenshots. Also, in larger games, it appears that the eldar don't launch attacks, despite building hundreds of units (there is nothing scarier then seeing an enter quarter of the map consisting of various eldar units.... even if they are on your side.
Also, just another suggestion, this time for the Sisters of Battle. For the Tier 5 and 6 upgrades, might I suggest having them increase the amount of 'faith' produced/stored, or at least so in massive/XP1 battles. It just seems to me like they are struggling in those kinds of battles, lacking some of the higher punch units that other races have, such as 'liths', terminators or even Ogyrns/Karks. I just figure that this is a more 'characterful' way of buffing them in such battles (a righteous crusade type feel) rather then just adding more stuff. It would also allow them to use more of the avenging Angel unti, which I'm assuming is meant to be a partial counter to those type of units.
Another simpler idea (or so it seems to this person who has no mod experience) would be allowing them to increase their unit sizes at tiers 5 and 6, if your not able to add in even more, but I kind of like the idea of the faith increase better. Just for the sheer awesome of a dozen Missionary lead sister squads firing golden beams of holy fire at enemies, even as the angels close in.
Anyway, despite the rambling crap I just stated, I must say that i do massively love this mod, just for the sheer epic feel of it. There is nothing more awesome then watching several dozen tanks punching through hundreds if not thousands of infantry, only to have themselves torn to shreds by the appearance of 8 bloodthirsters.
Sucal: You have 1.59.2? How? If I remember correctly, it wasn't released for the public. So how can you have it?
We know that the Necrons are overpowerd, and with every new version, we try to balance it more. And 1.6 is gonna be awsome, and more balanced!
But its good you like the mod.
Oh stupidity on my part, I pulled a random number out of my head. (Wasn't sure what version it was.) Yes, it is the .0 version, not the .2
Next time I'll check properly, rather then reading off the engine, rather then the version. Sorry for the stupidity/stating what you already knew.
I agree with sucal, it is unfair to the enemies of the Necrons to face lots of Restored monoliths, although it's bloody fun if your the one spamming those units :P fly little red dots fly awayI like his idea for the SoB, as the battle becomes worse, the Sisters are able to bring forth their faith into battle, becoming ever more zealous with each tier :P me likey
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The SoB idea is good indeed. But restored monoliths aren't really the problem, its the siege monoliths, but I'm sure that those won't be a problem anymore (if it stays as it is now).
NECRONS F.T.W.!!!
Yeah i like the SoB idea either as they really lack of units when others come with Titans and Super-Heavies! So instead of staying around and watching their base beeing pounded they would use harder their faith to drive the enemies back. To the Necrons i've to mention that the siege Monolith got kicked into oblivion and got replaced by the new Doomsday Phalanx which does far better then. You can still have many restored Monos but you have to build and upgrade them up instead of simply spamming them. I dunno what the Eldars have for a prob hereas in my version the Eldar Firedragons kick my Necrons butt and those of many other Races! They're somehow overpowered in T2-T3 till you get hard infantry counter (As they also kill vehicles very fast). My entire Nec army got pounded yesterday by 2 Firedragons and 2 Reaper Squads and even Destructors couldn't bash them and my Necronlord also died very fast as he got melted by the Fusion Guns! I really had to micro them hard with fast melee units like Destruktorlord and Pariahs as scarabs also got pounded quickly by the Fire Dragons and i played only on Normal! The game itself was a 2necs vs Tau + Eldar my ally was rather dumb same as the Tau. So if would've played on Hard then i would got surely obliterated. I was abled to turn the faith of Battle then by going T5 and building a Doomsday Phalanx fully equipped, a normal restored Mono and a Pylon. I used the Pylon and restored Mono to secure my base in order to test the new Doomsday Phalanx and send it alone into the Eldar + Tau Base (They were really close together) and OMG! It was the judgement Day! There were two Hammerhead tanks sitting in their base, several turrets and some Infantry. Damn i just klicked the Doomsday Phalanx to teleport into the Middle between the two bases and it left nothing standing! The two best anti vehicle tanks in the game were blown up before you could say "Oh look at that one!" and then the base of them two was next to follow and maybe after 30 seconds there was only smoke and some craters left from the Eldar and the Tau! And that's only version 1.59.4! I can't imagine what will be in version 1.6.
Maybe you can? If yes tell me!
-Cosmocrat
what are you thinking? next time use proper spacing when making a paragraph! that word of text really hurt the eyes.. ouch!
the Doomsday Phalanx really is.. AWSOME!!! I send it, before the enemies base, together with the pylon.
Then I just wanted to look at my great beacon to see how far Tier VI was. but even before I could really see it... I won!!! Thats really fast!
1.59.4 and 1.59.5 difference
Well 1.59.0 and 1.59.4 are VERY different.
1.59.4 to 1.59.5 is even better. Especially with the new units.
Necrons: (Balance from 1.59.4 to .5)
Beacons redone,
Doomsday Necron Warriors removed,
Basic Warriors can become like Doomsday Warriors by research,
Necron Warriors are produced slower,
Generators are built slower,
Destroyer and Heavy Destroyer damage output decreased further,
Doomsday Monolith can be upgraded with 8 artifacts (3 as usual like the Lord.)
Changes from 1.59 to 1.59.4 are uber.
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 27th Nov 10 at 11:14 AM.
Please nerf the Eldar Firedragons against Infantry ass they are really kicking butt of any Infantry Units even commanders get obliterated unnaturally quickly! You can leave the Vehicle damage they do then untouched. And the Doomsday is meant to bring the Doomsday to your foes so leave the damage it does alone please. At least before the next IMBA Unit arrives
-Cosmocrat
I already did that for fire dragons. Now you want me to decrease it even more? Or was this a long time ago?
I never did plan on weakening the Doomsday Monolith.
@Sucal: I think I know what you're talking about for the second creation of the 'Doomsday Monolith'. The Doomsday spawns, but then its structure stays as a halfly restored doomsday monolith, correct? Therefor the structure of it remains clickable. That glitch occurs with regular monoliths too. There is a problem with the squad transformation part in which not only our mod is bugged, but the Necron Monolith itself in DC and Soulstorm is bugged. Any fixes for this is highly wanted.
Oh and... I have a surprise for all of you, sooner or later. Let's just say the round of applause goes out to my friend Tyrantarmy6.
To sum up everything from the earlier comments...
- Extra surplus of Faith after Tier V/VI
- Dark Eldar surplus of souls after Tier V or VI.
- More Necron balance.
- Decrease faith cost for Avenging Angels.
- Make Avenging Angels tougher.
- Living Saint changes.
Anything else?
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 27th Nov 10 at 2:46 PM.
there is one more thing that bothers me. The DE mandrakes, at least on Krronus's mod. Mayb u should change them with DE warriors. I mean, switch their places, making DE warriors buildable from DE HQ and mandrakes on the Hall of Blood. And perhaps u could just make mandrakes a one man unit? I mean, if I read it right, mandrakes are supposed to be the DE elite assassin-like unit. Like what Corncobman did in his mod. Making the DE mandrake like SoB Death-cult assassin.
On a side note, how many units will the Eldar have? Will the mimes be included? or even the Solitaire?
I have a love hate relationship with surprises....I love it cause it means something amazing is happening but I hate it because of the wait...
Seems rediculous having the Warriors switched with Mandrakes just like Pathfinders with Stealth Suits but I'll make Mandrakes one man elite assassin.
I have ideas about the Eldar.
I have ideas that can kick the NECS butt sky high. No offense Necron lovers, but I think the Necrons had their fun for too long. Will the Eldar still be balanced = yes.
Yeah you have to wait another while longer but... if I do things as planned and on schedule then you have less then a month to wait.
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 27th Nov 10 at 7:14 PM.
Oh dear, so the undead will be weakened and the space elves will run riot. Oh dear god the horror... the yellow fruity horror...
Once again, time to think more seriously. That was the bug I was thinking about Cylarne, I just assumed it was a mod only one, since it was the fist time myself or a friend had come across it. Forget the eldar though, Tau need more love. Also, will Nids be added in before/during 1.6, or will you be awaiting the completion of that particular mod.
?Oh dear, so the undead will be weakened and the space elves will run riot. Oh dear god the horror... the yellow fruity horror...
Tau already has the love with that new Arka Cannon, far different from 1.59 and the current unreleased. Tau is too strong. New units all they will ever get from here on out. Unless you want unbalance...
Nids you say? Daemonhunters and Nids will be released at the same time. XP2. Here's XP2 if you forget what it is. (Expansion 2)
Krronus's hope for XP2
Hello fans. XP2 (New Races) is our biggest goal. That's right, new races will later be available for 1.6. I really hope so anyways if we are allowed permission from the creators. (Which as of right now, we were granted permission.) The new races we hope to see are the Tyranids of course and the Inquisition Daemonhunters. We will per-fect both races for the Apocalypse and add the extra features to them like we did to the other nine races in 1.58 Actual. Though I fear it may take another month or two or three. We are basically applying the same stuff to both races like we did in Apocalypse 1.0, 1.19 and 1.58. All of their buildings will have build radiuses, all units besides the major units will be unlimited, all builders will be set to the required cap limit, all commander wargear will be available, all codex weapons will be done and both will contain superweapons and tier IV, V and VI. But it will take a while.
The Apocalypse mod team strives on to make all of you satisfied.
And for the poll Krronus posted... Looks like I'm taking my time and 'per-fecting' it with awesomeness since the score was 3 to !!!21!!! But don't get your hopes up no, no, no. It's worth the wait.
Yes I implied, it's an expansion for 1.6. XP1 1.6 is as well. So... separate mod. Hope that answers your question.
Jesus man! We're at 170 posts already!?!?!?!?!
Bam! 170 Posts anniversary! Yeah we've got popular somehow. So you've fixed the Fire Dragons already? Because they're still kicking my Necrons chrome butt in version 1.59.4 :S. But i am sure you cared about them. So i am waiting also for the BB-Nerd-Squad taking on your comp to bring it back to life! Good Luck about that
whoa, I just played a game against Necs, me as the Eldar, on Hard....I kicked their butt! I've never felt so...alive. :P The Eldar's speed definitely makes it hard for the slow necs to tech up, dont change anything
lol, they're a bit powerful early game, it's the exact opposite with the necs (almost unstoppable late-game), but if crons manage to tech up faster, without me harassing them, I'm sure there would have been heavy casualties on my side.....and lead to my utter defeat.
172 posts? That's only 28 more from 20. You guys sure are getting more fame daily. Just imagine what it would be like when u release this God-like mod....it'll be hell, wait, it'll be the Apocalypse :P
They both are scary to face.
Surprise to you all coming in maybe an hour.
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 28th Nov 10 at 8:56 AM.
holy....it's 12.05am here. And u mister just managed to get me awake without caffeine or drugs. It's official, I'm addicted to this friggin thread :P I'll be here until that surprise arrives
You'll be suprised! I just know it!
oh c'mon then! The suspense is slaughtering me!
lol!!! Just wait! It'll be worth the waiting!
-breathes deeply- this better be worth the mental torture...or I'm telling u I'll send my Banshees to hunt each and everyone of you down (lol)
Oh my good god, I'm refreshing this page every 0.5 seconds! some1 end my misery :P
Don't worry! I'm now finishing the suprise... and its almost done! Now... Cylarne_04 will do the suprise, but if that takes too long, then I'll do that, so that you don't have to wait any longer.
OMG...ETA?
Ok. This is taking too long! I give him 2 more min. to come online. If not, I'll do the suprise.
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Now... the time has come for me to suprise you all!!! Hahahahah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJYG0halFjI
#183
Nice.. so many Guardsmen Lasguns.. but damn what slow down! Video recording software or shear # of units on-screen or just computer specs?
I know. Sadly I had to make the trailer on my mothers terribly slow laptop. But if there would be another trailer, I can make it on my own computer.
The trailer is now in the first post! Sorry.
Tyrantarmy... you gotta clear your pm message box please. It's full.
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 28th Nov 10 at 3:09 PM.
OMG, I can't believe I fell asleep! That was an awesome vid/trailer. But mayb u could put in music in the background. There's this amazing instrumental band called Apocalyptica, their music would fit in perfectly with your trailer. Even their name is Apocalyptic :P Oh and mayb you should show every race's new units...and stuff
I would love to make the trailer myself, if only I knew how :P
greetings all.first time looking at this mod,saw the trailer.did i see a titan in there?
yup, the team are putting in a whole lot of new units in game. Titans are definitely not forgotten :P you'll be able to control those god-like machines and wreak havoc on your foes! I'm definitely looking forward to his mod's release
Pretty sure I was clear about the use of my Titan. Get rid of Zany's animated version and replace it with the newer one or remove it please.
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#190
Could you elaborate on this, please? As far as I'm aware this does not happen with the vanilla Monolith in either DC or SS and is only something I've encountered when messing with a structure's offline_ext EBPextension.Originally Posted by Cylarne_04
I am an Iron Warrior! Iron Within, Iron Without!
Woot! There is a newer version available of your Warhound Titan? I wondered why it was moving so edgy but that explains much as this seemed to be just a beta/test unit
-Cosmocrat
Yeah, there was a newer version of the animations that I provided to Zany that he finished off (having learnt to skin things properly). I did have a version of TTRU with those in, I think. Pretty sure he released it. Otherwise you'll have to wait until I rehash the warhound for my mod - I want to add hip hydraulics to it to make it closer to the FW version, and retexture a lot of it. I'm thinking about pushing out some more work on the titans... then do Mars Pattern.
@Cosmocrat to Winterdyne: Is the Warhound taken care of or not? I have no clue. I got that new one from Titanium Wars. Does it match what Winterdyne is talking about? I have no clue.
Trailer: Doesn't even come close to what the game play is all about, no offense. Lots of new stuff was included but... it's something like this for example...
Spoiler
Just a screenshot I know, but in actuality, that was my screenshot and no there was not a lot of lag. I'm not attacking you Tyrantarmy6, it's just my opinion. Overall gameplay is better. I guess the trailer is a small sample for 1.59.0.
@Gorb: Can't explain better. I just assumed. That's a good question for Krronus.
In fact almost all of your questions Krronus should answer. If he is here.
EDIT: Wow that's a small screenshot! Sorry, I'll look for a better one.
Ah Ha!
Spoiler
Necron differences from 1.59 to 1.59.4# (Just to throw out there)
Spoiler
1.59.0
1.59.4#
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 29th Nov 10 at 9:43 AM.
Yes... I know. the trailer was for 1.59.18, then it was just, taking the new stuff, and type it, and some videos from it.
If I would have made the trailer for 1.59.4... then it would be like... holy (...)! Where do I start?!!! Trailers are around 2 min... if I would put all good new stuff in it... it would be much too long!
So... the trailer doesn't really show what it is like... but well, showing gameplay in a trailer... its a trailer for the mod, not a gameplay trailer. People need to see some awsome stuff, but not too much.
Its ok you think that, but it was my first trailer, and for an very outdated version of the mod. So think whatever you want, but I think, that it isn't bad for a first trailer.
I agree, you did well Tyrantarmy6.
Let's get everyone else's opinion shal we... I mean for the next trailer.
I have no idea which version of the titan is being used in which mod - I get grumpy when I see the crappy animations. The walk cycle should be smooth, and the toes should flex. The body should pivot and rock with the walk. Basically it's a nice walk cycle. Oddly, I just found a bunch of .max files for it.
Alright. PM me for the link where the tiatan I are looking for is then. I will not be looking at this thread today but tomorrow when I look at my mail, bamb! New PM! Awesome!
Yeah the Titan was really...basic). You can then simple rescale them and fit them with your present rig. This might speed things up as i guess that there ain't not that much modellers around there with some intermediate modelling skills and enough crazyness to help insane things coming to life
. So pm me or add to friends whatever Winterdyne just answer me somehow
Else have a good Day!
-Cosmocrat
<-- Woops typoAlright. PM me for the link where the tiatan I are looking for is then. I will not be looking at this thread today but tomorrow when I look at my mail, bamb! New PM! Awesome!
I mean show me the link where I can get this titan you're talking about Winterdyne. Then there are no worries I think.
Also, very, very, very great news. My computer is fixed and now I can mod again! Yippy! Now I just got to get it from these Best Buy people. So team, prepare for the best surprise yet for we are half way done with Ultimate Apocalypse! Fans of Krronus/Apocalypse itself, after 12/1, 20 days to go! I've decided to finish 1.6 100% by 12/20. That's all folks!
Last edited by Cylarne_04; 30th Nov 10 at 9:06 AM.
I don't have a link for it - I have the raw max files. Zany did the OE stuff based on a partial job I did. Otherwise you'll have to wait till my stuff's done. If I get some helpers, especially in the rigging / animating side that don't mind doing the job properly, it'll be a lot quicker. When I get some time I'll probably touch base with Cosmocrat and see what can be done.
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