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    oh, i have a lowe. I simply detest playing it though.
    The gun is great, but i think it sacrifices too much mobility.
    I have almost 0 fun playing that tank
    I broke down and bought a Lowe yesterday as well, on non-premium because I can.

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    I have 6 in that list, but can get 3 really quick if I had to.

  3. The Studio Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #903
    All I got is the panther and the KV.
    Since this event is only one day, and you can money grind only so many tanks at once,
    I think 3 tanks total might provide the most profit margin without resorting to suicide runs.

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    SU-76
    ?-34
    KV
    KV-1S
    SU-152
    Churchill
    PzKpfw III
    PzKpfw IV
    PzKpfw VI Tiger
    PzKpfw V Panther
    StuG III
    Ferdinand
    M3 Lee
    In addition, we are increasing the profitability (credit income) for the tanks above by 100%.
    The Lee?

    Wat.

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    Land Lees. To ho ho ho ho.

    PS: The Churchill's match making is terrible. I'm supposed to take on King Tigers with a 6 pounder and no HE shells, what?
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  6. #906
    Getting the T29 in a few minutes, probably the only T7 tank that only needs a new gun to be pretty much awesome, and i have that gun :>
    *puppies*

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    Jopax, you probably haven't played the Tiger?

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    I have, and it takes quite a bit more to be as good as the T29 is.The tiger first needs a turret and then that expensive long 88 to really shine.The T29 needs only the 90mm which you can easily get a tier early making the tank good out of the box if you can afford the 90mm right away.

  9. Modding Senior Member Company of Heroes Senior Member  #909
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    When Stock, the tiger is worse than the Pz IV in the same battle, and it needs so many upgrades that it's an absolute pain to grind on if you don't got the modules from other tanks. (In beta I had this problem, but as I now got the Panther first, and used free xp to get the turret/suspension for the Tiger I had it instant elited, did the opposite with the Panther in the beta, as I had all the engines on the King Tiger).

    The T29 is a serious threat to tier VIII tanks and so, as it has a fantastic gun with great dmg/pen, plus that it has good armor and speed like the IS. The Tiger however lacks a gun that does good damage (I don't get why the 88 L71 does the same damage as the L56, as the 128mm L61 does more damage than the 128mm L55 as well), has armor made out of wet paper and it's slow.

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    Speaking of the Tiger, I just decided to just partially free exp mine(after accidentally spending a decent sized chunk to also unlock the Hummel from the PZ IV ) rather than just grinding tot he last minute possible. Just had my first match with it and I think I did pretty well.



    Obviously my luck won't last that long, but I'm savoring the moment while it lasts dammit!

  11. #911
    So today I played my first match with a fully upgraded Pershing. Still can't decide if I like it or not.
    Also managed to get said tank killed by Mecron from Kerberos Productions, so that was cool.

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    Interesting stuff on the camo, but i wonder what exactly will it do, does it give a bonus on certain maps and nothing on others, or does it give negative values if you take a snow camo to a desert map.

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    I'm trying to register but 9/10 names I try give me "This username is not allowed." God damn mother fuckers. I'm not even allowed to use 'Guilliman'

    Edit, fuck this game. gdgdgdg is allowed but most standard stuff isn't.

    Edit 2; I mailed their CS about it, not really expecting a logical answer back from a F2P MT game though.

    Edit 3; they mailed back with a standard useless responds. Their naming rules look very very restrictive. For example:
    "3.11 that contain Logotypes, symbols, emblems or figures connected in one way or another with organizations, that violate or were violating existing laws and rules (For example, using different variations of Nazi symbolic, abridgements and signs( 88, 14, 420, SS), or similar stylization (such as, 55) as well as credentials, names and surnames of Nazi leaders) which may provoke strong negative reaction/association or promote national/ethnic/religious hatred."

    Bolded the messed up parts. Really.. You may as well forbid the letter 'x' because it's part of the word sex!
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  14. The Studio Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #914
    So, I just got blue named.

    I was in my IS and capping the enemy base with a little Pz3. I was just sitting still while the little tank was doing lazy circles around the flag.
    I see a 1% tiger in the distance that I could hit. So I go into sniper mode and zoom in. Once I had fully aimed, I fired.
    and just right then, the Pz3 passed right in front of my gun and ate my shell. Bloody one shotted him.

    Awesome...Not sure how long I have to wait before the blue goes away.

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    So I started playing this yesterday, been playing with some German tanks and thought I'd go down the medium line (I've always liked the Panther)...however, it seems like that was the worst idea ever as my terrible little 38na keeps getting matched up in battles with Lowes and Tiger IIs and stuff, resulting in me getting one shot from halfway across the map.

    Are medium tanks bad or am I doing it wrong? Any tips for getting started, or should I aim for a different line of tanks? (I'd prefer to snipe I think)

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    The game classes the 38na as a light tank. The matchmaker is very unkind to tier 4 mediums and commonly end up in tier 7 or 8 games. From what I've heard the 38na lacks the Leopard and A20's speed and maneuverability which lets them scout for xp and hunt arty. In general, mediums aren't that bad, usually you'll have a gun that you can at least damage a heavy from the side if not head on.

    The German lines tend to be a bit all over the place. The pz3/4 is supposed to be a brawler while the panther is supposed to be a sniper tank. In terms of end game, the German mediums are better snipers than the other mediums.

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    The next patch is going to mess around with the German tech tree. From what I've seen the Panzer III/IV is moving to the heavy tree and the Panzer IV moving to the medium tree.

    Since World of Aeroplanes is going to be WWI through to the early Jet age, any one fancy having to fight off Me 262s and Meteors in their Albatros D.V. and Sopwith Camels?
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  18. #918
    Only if we get to cry OP and RUSSIAN BIAS all the time :P

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    Yay, got out of the H2 turret on the Tiger! I hated the look of that thing after a while.

    Now I can use that daily on my KV-3...

  20. The Studio Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #920
    Blue name went away. yay!

    also

    BEST BALANCE EVER!

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    This much better

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    Thanks Whycough.

    I moved onto the Panzer 3/4 and while it feels better as a combat tank than the 38 nA, it still doesn't seem like it can hold a candle to any of the tanks it gets put against. What exactly is it supposed to do? It seems to big and ungainly to scout, and to fragile and undergunned to rumble. I'm pairing playing the 3/4 with the russian heavy line to get the KV.

  23. #923
    While it's speed is very tempting you need to lay back with it a bit, since you are quite quick and agile you need to see where the openings in the enemy lines are or if one of your sides need bolstering, then while the enemy is distracted with your teammates you peg away at them without much trouble.Same goes for most US mediums i've played, you need to be very careful at first but once you get the hang of this kind of thing you will be very effective in contributing to your team.

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    The pz3/4 is shit, it has a shit gun and shit armour. The ok tier matches will still get you faceraped, let alone the not ok tier matches.
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    I'm not surprised. Anything within three feet of you seems to end up full of knife shaped holes.

  25. The Studio Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #925
    The Pz3/4 is what I consider to be a scrappy ankle biter.
    You're a small, agile, nimble tank with a mediocre gun. Keep this in mind at all times. Don't act like a front line brawler, because you lack the armor and firepower. Don't act like a scout with delusions of being The Flash, because you don't have the speed. Keep a friendly tank in front of you at all times and take opportunity shots at the side of the enemy.
    If you see a turret turned in your direction, find cover immediately. Don't get greedy and stick around hoping for another shot.

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    The game starts at tier 5. This is were scouts need to be scouts, mediums need to be flankers and heavies need to be the meat of your team.

    That said all tanks have balanced damage per minute, a tank, weather it be light, medium or heavy will pump out roughly the same damage over a minute. Arty has more DPM and Tank destroyers have the most overall. Your pz3/4 will pump out roughly the same damage per minute as a tiger, but since you have drastically lower alpha and penetration you'll need to go round the sides or rear of the enemy to maximise your DPM.

    Wait till the enemy is distracted with one of your friendly tanks and flank them, you don't need to be within spitting distance of the enemy, but in a position where you can consistently do damage. A medium pretending to be a heavy won't last very long so best to break the delusions down in tier 5.

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    Tried out War Inc. Wow what a failure. The game is fine, but unlike our great WoT it's broken. They say you can play the whole game without giving a dime, BUT it's so rigged I can't even dare try it. Guns can only be rented for 1 day at most for any of the good guns. Anything else costs real money. I have been so spoiled with the professional feel of WoT. heh

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    WoT is sexellent. I've got it worked out that is around 50k to get to a tier 5 of my choice. So I'm grinding 50 odd battles in my konical 3601. So that's around 100-200 battles required to get me a slugger and jagpanzer 4.

    Or...

    I go for the t29.

    Decisions decisions!

  29. #929
    Got the long 88 for the Jpanther yesterday, fuck yeah most awesome gun ever, but besides that for some reason i have been having a streak of excellent games in my Tiger, averaging 1k of xp and atleast five kills each round.Of course as soon as i mentioned it i got raped in my next match and barely broke even with some damages and zero kills

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    E50
    7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70
    7.5 cm KwK45 L/100
    8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71
    8.8 cm KwK 46 L/100
    10.5 cm KwK45 L/52 Ausf. B

    E75
    8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71
    10.5 cm KwK 45 L/52
    10.5 cm KwK 46 L/68
    12.8 cm KwK 44 L/55

    E100
    12.8 cm KwK 44 L/55
    15 cm KwK 44 L/38

  31. Modding Senior Member Company of Heroes Senior Member  #931
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    I am SO relieved by the gun selection for the E50 and E75, I was already worrying that the E75 wouldn't have the 128mm.. And the 88mm L/100 is going to be kickass too I bet.

  32. The Studio Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #932
    The E-75 will have the exact same gun selection as the Ausf B. That's kind of disappointing to me because the German line seems to a relatively lackluster selection of high alpha guns. So the only difference between the Ausf B and the E-75 is just tank performance. Boooo

    The Panther will be getting the 75 L100 in place of the 88 L71. No choice here but to use the 75 which I expect to be very decent (almost sparred a T-54 to death using it and the stock-turm on the panther II so i have high hopes for it at tier 7.)

    Panther II will have the 75 L100 and the 88 L71 though the 88 will probably be the most viable gun for the tier. The additional armour and survivability of the Panther II at tier 8 will probably make it pretty good sniper that doesn't explode in flames. I wonder what they will do with the turrets since the schmalturm was only required for the 105 which the tank will not have anymore. I'm guessing the 75 will be available for the stock-turm and shift the 88 to the schmalturm

    The E-50 will have the 88 L100 and the 105 L52 as viable choices. 88 will specialize in RoF while the 105 is alpha based. Both are accurate as hell. I'm not sure which gun I would get given the choice. The 105 is a fabulous gun right now, doing damage on par with the 122mm of the IS series at 7 RPM. I can't imagine having to pick between them...and which one do you think will require the schmalturm?

  33. #933
    I dislike the guns for the E-75, would have preffered something much more versatile, like a badass 105, something with RoF not just the damage, something to separate it from the VK4502.One should be a fortress with great burst and survivability while the other should trade a bit of that for mobility and RoF, making it much more viable against multiple targets.

    But i do love the 75/100 for the Panther, like a premium konisch gun that you don't have to pay gold for to be insanely awesome

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    I dislike the guns for the E-75, would have preffered something much more versatile, like a badass 105, something with RoF not just the damage, something to separate it from the VK4502.One should be a fortress with great burst and survivability while the other should trade a bit of that for mobility and RoF, making it much more viable against multiple targets.

    But i do love the 75/100 for the Panther, like a premium konisch gun that you don't have to pay gold for to be insanely awesome

  34. Forum Subscriber  #934
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Tea View Post
    The E-75 will have the exact same gun selection as the Ausf B. That's kind of disappointing to me because the German line seems to a relatively lackluster selection of high alpha guns. So the only difference between the Ausf B and the E-75 is just tank performance. Boooo
    Last I checked, the T1E2, T32, T34, M46, IS-4, IS-7, and T-54 don't have higher alpha than their current German counterparts.

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    Any idea when those changes are supposed to be happening? (specifically the changed tech tree)

    I've stopped playing ZEE GERMAN tanks for the time being at the 3/4 now that I have enough exp saved up on it to buy any possible t6 tank it may branch too. Got tired of playing with a friend in a PzIV who would outperform me every game while having lower repair costs.

    Got a KV and wow, what a difference that's made in my enjoyment of the game. 4k xp from the Zis. Also, the T-28 is the most fun tank I've played I think.

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    I don't like the new camouflage system because it will fubar carefully crafted user-made skins which I have a fine selection.

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    Just started playing this myself last night on the recommendation of a friend from work; seems fun so far, just got me a Panzer II and a Panzerjager I...any advice for a newbie?
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    Be patient whatever you do, while the prospect of running in and shooting tanks to bits may seem very fun (and it often is in the first ~3 tiers) it often helps to stay back for a minute and see where you would be needed the most or where you could take advantage of the enemies stupidity

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    Just started playing this myself last night on the recommendation of a friend from work; seems fun so far, just got me a Panzer II and a Panzerjager I...any advice for a newbie?
    1. Never use the autoaim.
    2. Learn to position the hull correctly to get the best ricochet angles. This is very important.
    3. Learn the maps.
    4. Learn to use cover (rocks, buildings, depressions, destroyed tanks) to reload and hide from arty and avoid the "killing fields".
    5. At higher levels learn the weakspots - driver's hatch, commander peri, lower hull, etc.
    6. Never ever advance without a backup, unless you really know what you are doing.
    7. Do not advance first, unless you really know what you are doing.
    8. Try to predict enemy tactics using the map and their composition.
    9. Use the mod, that makes the minimap bigger.

  40. #940
    Here's that minimap mod, very useful if you ever want to try arty.

    One of the files (depending on how big you want the map to be) goes into: Somewhere\WorldOfTanks\res\gui\flash

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    InB4 minimap is disabled like tracers.

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    Well I think the E75 and the Ausf. B will still be very different even though the guns are the same, and we still do not know the armor values on the E75. My guess is (as the just posted Tiger 'P' has 200mm frontal armor) that the Maus line trades mobility for armor, while the E100 line trades armor for mobility.

  43. The Studio Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #943

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    So far E-series look great. And E-75 looks like a great change from ausf b & play more like tiger 2.

    But it looks like Panther lost its awesome sniping gun but it still has the 75/100 gun, so people might start using that gun :P

    Lastly, German line finally getting massive derp gun like t30 or object 704? (Even though it only has 228 pen)

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    E-100 is going to be one of the most wanted Tier 10 heavies for clan wars.


    Btw, you guys are forgetting the most important feature in 6.6:


    Removed Speed Governer, you have met your German Counterpart.

  46. #946
    Yeah the german 15cm is very powerful, see it one shot is4 O.o

    while in the test server, right now i in MM hell with my tiger as i always get match with 2-3 tier 10 7-9 tier 9 and rest tier 8-7 D:

  47. The Studio Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #947
    The 88 L 100. Ridiculous looking gun, but it seems to be lacking compared to the super test stats.


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    Anyways, a little E-50 gun comparison using the russian server stats
         88L100    88L71    105ausfB
    dam  240       220      390
    pen  223       203      220
    aim  2.5       2.5      2
    acc  .26       .3       .28
    rof  10        10.34    7
    $$$  1200      252      1245
    DPM  2400      2275     2730
    I don't think the price increase on the shell is fair for what amounts to a fairly minor improvement on the 88L71. I was expecting the 88L100 to be a low cost, viable sniping/brawling gun because it could be mounted on the stock-turm (50 deg/sec traverse ftw!). However, such a high shell cost with fairly low damage on the 88L100 really does make the 105ausfB the only choice for the E-50. I don't think the 88L100 will ever make money unless it's shell cost is reduced by 500 credits or so

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    I plan to come back when the patch is live. So far I have other plans. Making myself a MAME arcade cabinet plus wheel pedal addon. Going to be fun. This game is going on the back burner till that new stuff is in. Good gaming all!

  49. #949
    Some of the changes are confusing as hell, the Panther 2 especially, for some reason it goes above T8 and some T9 tanks in the player listing even though it is a T8 medium now, i wonder if they actually changed its matchmaking value now.

    Other than that the new tanks don't seem all that special really.The E-75 is just a beefed up Tiger 2.The Tiger P is probably the most powerful T7 heavy right now, ways better in every aspect except engine power than the original Tiger.New Panther is quite fun, the gun could fire a bit faster but it's fine as is.

    I should be getting the Panther 2 sometimes tommorrow, or even tonight if i get lucky a few times but i think it won't be much different than the original Panther.

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    Echoing Jopax a couple of days ago, I also just got the L/71 for the Tiger and although I lost the first game I had with it the new gun still makes this thing feel a lot better and more fun to play. Now I just need to grab the tracks and the upgraded engines.

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