7.1 With 2 branches of French tanks is being deployed to Russian servers. I think I'm coming back, too intrigued with French. Reno vs Porsche lol.
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7.1 With 2 branches of French tanks is being deployed to Russian servers. I think I'm coming back, too intrigued with French. Reno vs Porsche lol.
From what I've heard the french are pretty meh with a few exceptionally good tanks.
Mainly ones that have autoloaders that allow them to burst down anything of equal tier with just one magazine.
*puppies*
Well, tier 1 French does not hold a candle to MS-1. Top gun too weak.
Okay, my impressions of French tanks tiers 1-3.
Tier 1: FT-17 is the weakest tank in the game). Its 25mm top canon is weaker than Cunningham's top gun and I'm not even talking about Loltraktor and MS-1 with reduced RoF 45mm variant.
Tier 2: Both tanks on this tier share the woes of 25mm canon. D1 is buffed up FT-17, so nothing special. With Hotchkiss H35 things are a bit more interesting. It has 40mm armor everywhere making it a well armored tank (for a Tier 2). In the hands of experienced tanker it can be used to an advantage.
Tier 3: D2 finally gets a rather nice canon for its tier, also having 40mm armor everywhere is not too shabby. AMX38 on the other hand has 47mm with roughly the same pen and accuracy of 25mm, but it has armor of 60mm front and 40mm sides, this makes it quite great for slugging it out with its tier or lower, but utterly useless in matches where tiers 4 and 5 are involved in.
French lower tier tanks are reasonably slow, but with adequate maneuverability. Their top speed is about 25kph, with your regular speed about 15kph. They have sexy designs, compared to absolutely hideous lower tier americans, with only Stuart family being kawaii. In general they re well armored, but guns and speed leave much to be desired. Still, next to the powerhouses like PzII, PzIII, T-28, BT family they are so WWI.
With 0.7.1 you get a FT-17 with a free slot! I've bought a month of premium after a long break from WoT and it looks like fun.
Hahahah.
Well it seems I won't even need those extra slots from the Russian changes, getting plenty of free ones as is, plus with some bonus gold my garage is getting pretty swollen X)
#1256
promo code for WoT on 7.1 release right after new years
will get you tetrach tank and free slot.
SO MANY GIFTSSSS 7.1 CAN'T COME SOON ENUFF
also, high tier French tanks might have gotten nerfed hard in 7.1.2 test, but i still think they're OPed. at least in my hands
my Lorraine has a 83% win rate and the bat chat has an average of 2700 damage per battle.
#1257
How good is the Lorraine 40t? Is the playstyle nice?
#1258
link to the promotion event
http://worldoftanks.com/news/909-hap...ays-wargaming/
I find the lorraine to be a very fun tank. I'm a big tier 8 medium tank junky and the lorraine combines everything I love about the current tier 8 meds. The lorraine is massive, but is faster than the t-44. The gun is almost as accurate as the 88L71 with similar statistics. And the Lorraine has the same type of agility as the pershing (can almost turn on a dime and accelerates really well)
The gun depression is meh, the armour isn't there. I can get over the lack of armour though.
It does take some time to get used to the play style and certainly isn't for everyone. If you love the american mediums, then you'd probably do well with the french light/medium line
#1259
I have a feeling French tanks are going to be quite OP. Quite unbelievable for WoT, something that is going to outgun the russian tree.
#1260
It remains to be seen. I expect some more nerfs to the tanks, but as it currently is, the majority of them are fairly balanced out. We'll just have to wait until 7.1 is live to see how well they actually perform outside of the 7.1.2 test server.
they were hellishly OP in 7.1.1 Oddly enough, people think that they were fine back then...dumbass players
RUSSIANFRENCH BIAS.
While I haven't played on the test server, I suspect that the problem is that people let the French tanks get off an entire clip and try and stand up to them rather then remove the burst fire power advantage by taking cover.
I've got both French branches to tier 5 now. My impressions of tier 4, AMX40 LT and B2 HT:
1. Light tank AMX40 is actually more armored and armed than its brother B1 in this tier. It has a quite thick and well sloped armor, especially at the front. It's 75mm gun is about adequate, worse than T28 or M3, better than PzIII. The design of this tank is very sleek and beautiful, like tank from Mars. On tier 4 and lower you can play like baby IS-4, since few tanks can pen you from the front and not so many from sides and rear. In higher tier battles you gonna suffer though). Downsides - tank is quite sluggish, though top speed is good, but only achievable going downhill.
2. Heavy tank B1 - initially available as captured German premium Pz B1. Big, bulky hull with 60mm armor everywhere, which is not so bad and small turret with 40mm which is your weak spot. 47mm canon leaves much to be desired. In all aspects this tank is inferior to most Tier 4 competitors, though armor is not so bad and top engine powerful enough to make it reasonably agile. Still in lower tier battles your armor is quite impressive, though experienced players will hit you in the turret.
Tier 5 impressions (BDR G1B which looks like Leman Russ alot and AMX12t which has magazine canon yay) to follow.
Last edited by Cortlendt; 4th Jan 12 at 12:12 AM.
Not really unbelievable. It was a similar story with the American tree, and then the American tree got nerfed to pieces.Originally Posted by Celéstial
#1264
EDIT :: LONELY EVIL CHINESE
Last edited by Afoxi; 3rd Jan 12 at 9:06 AM.
E=mc^(OMG)/wtf
The engrish in that video is adorable. The tank less so, the evil little blighter that always appears in groups of four and one of the few tanks I can't handle with my KV-13.
I killed so many of those things in my patton that it gets tire some hitting the left mouse button.
Oh when is 7.1 coming out i want to ride in a french tank it its slow reloading auto laoder.
No qaurter back men, only forward or we will hold this line forever!!!
[IMG][/IMG]
Row Row Row Fight the Powha
Okay, french tanks tier 5 - BDR G1B heavy and AMX12t light.
1. BDR G1B was designed when one french engineer said "Guys, lets make a W40K tank, lol". So they did "Hammer of the Emperor" - Leman Russ (save the sponsons). It is big and very high. Think T1 Heavy, shorter, but higher. Frontal armor is present, sides are weak (and easy to hit due to profile). This tank is faster and more agile than KV, but not than T1 Heavy (with top engine). It has 90mm gun which is very good for tier 5 but still is slightly worse than ZIS-6 and ML-10 KV has. I will rate it second best heavy tank on tier 5 after KV (not as if we had many heavy tanks in tier 5 anyways).
2. AMX12t is where it is at with frenchies. First french tank with magazine loaded canon. It is small, has 75mm gun with adequate stats for tier 5, 6 rounds magazine, 2-2.5 sec between shots, 10-12 sec magazine reload. It is fast and agile, but not an ufo fast like T-50. It is usually balanced with tier 8, so little armor it has holds no value. With two big antennae it looks like a little ant, scurrying around the battlefield. Since you are not T-50, bum rushing arties is quite problematic. But getting on the sides or rear of any enemy tank occupied with something that is not you will let you put some hurt on him. I'm in progress of developing tactics for this type of tanks and it is a lot of fun. Sometimes you can really frag!
PS. French tanks have abysmal vertical aim angles. That has been the death of me several times.
I have that sinking feeling we won't see 7.3 before the end of this month, not so much excited for the Frenchmen as I was for the T34 premium and the new extra skills which just keep getting delayed and pushed back. WG really needs to get their shit together and either start making more vague schedules or start sticking to the ones they have now.
I think they have deverted most resources to other ventures. The Battle Ship and Air planes. I really think we got left in the dust for this game. They sure as heck are not getting anymore of my money. I have gone through more games waiting for them to get things going then any other game out there. I kind of feel sorry for the one programmer the kept in the team(feels like it?) to do all the updates heh. He's chained to his desk with "Don't feed the programmer till he's gotten more done!" sign next to him.
So, french tanks expected tomorrow i heard it will be on the fifth.
Yup its 100% today, website is down and launcher is DLing some 231 MB patch :-)
Steam Nick - Selfishfish
The Hotch, AMX 38, and AMX 40 all have amazing armour for their tier. Too bad they are sooooooo sloooooow and none of them have guns that even have a chance of hurting, well, anything with decent armour.
Yeah, lulz, since lower tiers will be swarmed with french tanks that cannot pen each other.The Hotch, AMX 38, and AMX 40 all have amazing armour for their tier. Too bad they are sooooooo sloooooow and none of them have guns that even have a chance of hurting, well, anything with decent armour.
The AMX40's 75mm can't even penetrate the front of a T34, but the T34 can pen the AMX. Nor can it pen the rear of an IS or the sides of a T14, and takes half a year to reload. Thats how awesome the AMX40's gun is.
Edit: Oh, and the armour isn't even that amazing. Just shoot the driver's windows.
Last edited by Busby; 5th Jan 12 at 9:06 AM.
#1275
150 staff working on tanks.
My god Amx armor is just mofo ridiculousness, seriously, I was fighting a Amx in my Amx and guess what happens, neither of us did any damage for 8 minutes. We both sat at point blank range firing off at each other.
AMX40 is tier 4, while T-34 is tier 5 and IS tier 7. I've gotten a few steel walls in it and its armor and slopes for its tier are really something. If you want a good gun on this tier drive T-28. You get no armor thoughThe AMX40's 75mm can't even penetrate the front of a T34, but the T34 can pen the AMX. Nor can it pen the rear of an IS or the sides of a T14, and takes half a year to reload. Thats how awesome the AMX40's gun is.
Edit: Oh, and the armour isn't even that amazing. Just shoot the driver's windows..
#1278
Victory!Battle: Mountain Pass Friday, 6 January 2012 9:19:32 PM
Vehicle: AMX 50 100
Experience received: 2,325
Credits received: 66,513
Battle Achievements: Top Gun, Boelter's Medal
I've made developer-made camos invisible and reverted to my custom collection of tank skins from the internet.
#1280
I only put camo on my tier 8 and 9 meds only so other people recognize me as a wallet warrior
The for the rest of my tanks i use custom skins
I might just come back since the new tanks finally came out. Bwahaha*rubs hands together*
The problem with the ducky is that when its armour doesn't mean anything its crappy gun and non-existent speed makes it utterly useless. Even the other tier 4 tanks, when they are put in tier 5+ battles, are somewhat useful as scouts and arty hunters. The AMX40 can do neither. Also, there is a nice big weak spot on the front of the duck that can be penetrated even by other French tanks of similar tier.AMX40 is tier 4, while T-34 is tier 5 and IS tier 7. I've gotten a few steel walls in it and its armor and slopes for its tier are really something. If you want a good gun on this tier drive T-28. You get no armor though .
I have the AMX 12t now though, and it was worth the horror of the duck. Reasonably fast stock, with a very accurate gun, tiny, and good spotting range. It can play high speed sniper really well while having just enough speed to flank when it needs too. It dies to like, everything, and the match maker hates it, but a very fun tank overall.
Playing again simply makes me sad. I see all the glorious tanks I used to own.
Grinding to KT again. 80k xp to go
Knife King of Doltland
I'm not surprised. Anything within three feet of you seems to end up full of knife shaped holes.
#1284
Pretty boss tank.
#1285
French low tiers suck like something horrible.
#1286
Same goes for the medium line untill the Lorraine 40t, so get used to it.
So I got my AMX12t and it is a decent tank, so between the AMX40 and the B1, and my epic rampages in the new Tetrarch, I think it's safe to say that ALL French tanks below tier 5 suck.
Also please tell me that latter tanks get more vertical gun traverse? My AMX12t is making the bad old days with the 'fixed' US T34 look like something to aspire too, just like the crappy low level tanks make the Matilda look fast.
#1288
um, the amx 13 75s earn the right to gun depression, but the elevation is still terrible from there on afterwards
I got out of my AMX 12t and into the AMX 13 75.
My gosh, it's a breath of fresh air.
the 75mm's 144mm of penetration is perfectly fine with me despite being thrown into high tier battles (as expected), and the amount of health is also welcome (out of the 1 shot range. yay!)
110mm penetration in the AMX 12t was just horrid for the fights that it was put into (it was manageable but not enjoyable). but with the upgraded 75mm, I can reliably penetrate the things that i know i can hurt.
I vaguely recall a 12t actually hurting my Tiger from behind. I was like, what the shit is this! Then exploded him.
The 12t can really put out the hurt when it is in the right position. Too bad it can never get into games lower the tier 7. Not that it makes a good front line tank against tier 5s (god dam Panzer IVs) at all.
#1291
/rolleyes.
Now recall that this driver derped and forgot that he actually had one more shell left.
I've forgotten how fun Tier 5 play is.
First battle, other team has Type 59 doom squadron and simply squashes my team. One of them even rushes past 3 tier 7 team mates to kill my 12t.
Second battle, team all gets sniped within the first 2 mins on Campovka. I don't even get to deal damage, as the only things I ever see are two scout tanks, and I'm too far away from one and the 38 NA had magic armour bounce hacks and destroyed my gun.
Third battle, most of our team is 12ts while the other team is mostly KVs. Our T-29 drives off by himself and gets cut off and destroyed by an angry swarm of lower tried tanks. I die trying to side hug a Su-152 that raped most of our lower tiers only to die to a Wolverine that decided to take forever to get up to the front line.
Fourth battle, my team wins. But all I do is stare at a Type 59 through a rock most of the battle. Eventually a Lowe charges into view and I dump a mag into his side armour (doing about 15% damage, woo) before my team kills him. Type 59 gets bored and rushes around the rock, killing me in two hits while I only do 20% damage to him.
Last battle, its on the Frenchy/Germany map with the canyon down the middle so aiming is a bitch. Both teams only have a Tiger 1 in the tier 7 slot but the other team have 5 tier 6s to our zero. I hit a T-28 down to 6% with two shots only for a friendly Panzer IV to steal my kill. Then I get snipped from tanks I can't even see or aim at. Team then just rolls over and dies.
Sigh.
#1293
I feel your pain. To be honest I feel that tier V mediums either should get better MM. Mainly the ones which don't have such powerfull guns like the soviet T-34, PzKpfw III/IV and the M7.
#1294
the amx 12t gets crappy matchmaking for a tier 5. It sees tier 7 heavies up to tier 9 heavies. AMX 12t sufferes from the light tank curse.
Actual tier 5 meds have a better chance.
Tier 5 mediums are fine when it comes to matchmaking.
Before tier 5 the game is a joke where everyone can take on everyone, tier 5 and up however the tank classes start developing roles within the game. The tanks you listed Celéstial pump out some serious DPS but your going to need to get round the sides to do the damage consistantly, so their very good flankers but need someone else to take the hits.
Light tank matchmaking on the other hand...
With things like the Chaffee and T-50-2 it's somewhat justified, with things like the Leo and A20 it's just there to spite you.
#1296
Goobers, I know how to use these tanks, and I know their guns are almost machine guns and indeed can do serious damage at the sides or rear. The problem is getting there. As soon as you are behind or flanking, everyone shoots you first over the big guys because you are max 2 shots for them.
So I have a bit of a dillemma here, should I go for the heavies or the mediums, allready up to t3 with the heavy line but the light tanks with autoloaders seem very very appealing while the heavies are stuck without them untill t8.
Also almost got the IS-3, after that it's a painful grind to get teh BL-9 and the IS-4 X)
#1298
IS-3 indeed isn't the best with the D25t, but it will still do the job, especially as it currently bounces a lot of shells even from the side (I find it OP since it got spaced armor, it bounces way to often from the side and lower hull).
The ARL44 has a gun at tier VI which has and incredible 212 average penetration with good damage and great rate of fire. They also say that the tier VII heavy is pretty good iirc.
I really want the french heavies. Alas I want everything, so I am sticking to my vk36, Tiger and ISU. Having a tier 8 heavy and a tier 9 TD is a time consuming goal!
I met the tier eight french heavy in my Tiger. Decidedly unpleasant to find it had a magazine gun. Then the is7 my team had resolutely ignored rolled up behibd me.
I dunno really about AMX12t matchmaking, since it clearly puts you into the role of scout tank. I've got the netting and usually have no problem of being stationary recon. Given the situation you can also bite. Just make sure your target is occupied with someone else. In matches where you can pen majority of their team from a distance you can play as a sniper/TD. I do not think this tank is expected to be balanced as T-34/Pz4/M4.
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