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In that case bleh, should have trained the crew instead X(
Also moments ago I unlocked the JagdTiger and sold my Ferdinand, this left me with 2.5 mill credits, I caved and bought the Pershing, after one battle I can safely say that I like this tank, definetly has some of the T20 feel
*puppies*
Don't forget that in this case you can contact customer support and move the XP. This is official I think.
#1353
E=mc^(OMG)/wtf
So that was pretty good. I probably could of done better if I didn't try to save our stupid Stug III; I exposed my hull doing so and he didn't help, like, at all.
What that game did start was a horrible streak of teams that must of been sniffing paint while playing, the pinnacle being a "friendly" T29 shooting our people capping, single handily losing the cap race for us. Cue massive Busby rage that resulted in this:
I was screaming at my screen during that game, that's how terrible my teams where. I think I need a break, the stupidity on the EU server during day time hours is really starting to get to me.
#1355
Temporary Dolt Mumble
Address: rnfx.typefrag.com | port: 26646
#1356
I creamed my pants.
«There's a bit of Doomrider in all of us.»
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HELLL CATTTTT!!!!!!!!! YEAHHHHHHHHH
No qaurter back men, only forward or we will hold this line forever!!!
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Row Row Row Fight the Powha
Yeah, the new TD's look very nice, going after them as soon as the patch hits I guess X)
The worrying part is the Q1, they said February first, this kind of tells me that they think it might not be in this month :I
#1360
I'm always excited for new patches.
This one i'm excited for EVERYTHING. I'm anxious to see how they'll try to balance the french light/medium line in particular
Hellcat is sexy but the patch is not even on the test server yet. It will take a whole month. Can't wait to get T34 split, so I can raise some money for T-44 to compliment my Persh.
#1362
lol, tank physics
http://youtu.be/-iXCWsZMDnQ
The Panzer IV is either an extremely powerful, possibly OP Tier 5 tank or I'm amazing.
The PzIV is a very nice tank but it's hardly overpowered, it's quite on par with the Sherman and RamII, but it's more of a hangback hero since it has a very decent gun so it tends to luck out and get nice scores more often.
Also, is it wrong that I'm having fun with my US T34? I got the desire to up and drive it after watching that 7.2 trailer and for some strange reason I'm doing well and earning money in it... without premium. It's almost as if the completely deserved hatred I gave it for needing to fight IS-4's and Ausf.b's with a tier 7 105mm gun for 100k exp is slowly washing away...
Good thing it's getting replaced soon, I might almost like it.
I've got the Wolverine with free xp to get ready for Hellcat. It is actually quite nice. Turreted TDs are not the new black but still are something fresh.
You can get better scores in KV than in PZIV. This tank still dominates everything tier 5. Of course I'm comparing HT and MT)
#1366
Finally decided to give this a try and I'm having a blast. Does the game change at all as you move through the tiers? Earlier in the thread someone mentioned that the game doesn't really start until tier 4, or something to that effect.
It's zippy fun until tier four, then it turns into living hell for most of the tanks, tier five then gets fun and it pretty much keeps increasing from there but the gameplay gets slower for most tanks.
But it mostly depends on your playstyle and your prefered tanks.
Getting Russian KV tank is your safest bet unless you invest in a premium tank like Lowe/KV-5. You will be able to farm some creds to support your leveling.
Also different types - LT, MT, HT, TD and Arty play differently and Nations also differ. Try everything until you find something for yourself.
The common stereotypes:
Russians: Generally OP, fast, good sloped armor, powerful guns, but inaccurate, slightly lacking pen and sighting range. Most vehicles were produced en-masse or at least prototyped in metal. Brawler choice. Cannot turn on spot.
Germans: The Underdogs, mostly slow, armor varies but mostly so so, guns have weak alpha, but accurate, good pen and sighting range. More prototypes than in Russian tree. Some vehicles, like KT, are considered kawaii and gothic at the same time. Can turn on spot.
Americano: Your Black Horses. Armor mostly cardboard BUT impenetrable turrets, mostly fast, great guns, great sighting range, good vertical aim angles. Can turn on spot. Loads of prototypes. Have turreted TDs.
French: The New Black. No armor save for lower tiers. Fast, good sighting range. WTF OMFG guns with magazine loading. Piss poor vertical aim angles. Cannot turn on spot. Most of the vehicles did not take part in WWII.
Please bear in mind that this is my subjective opinion.
The game starts at tier 5 because that's when the classes start to mean something, tier 4 and down the classes are pretty interchangeable, however once tier 5 rolls around, there is a very big power gap between a KV and a Chaffee.
As for the different nations vehicles, Cortlendt said most of it, but...
Russians are 'easier' than the others with high alpha damage, good armour and good speed, but they are also designed to just face at the enemy and fire away. Their tanks are very nice but the guns have horrible aim times and non-existent accuracy on the move to counter out their higher damage. Simple to play and very effective with only a smattering of common sense required.
Germans get very accurate guns and a fast aiming time, but their damage and fire rate is very average. They tend to have very good armour and higher than average HP but are mostly designed as boxes, so being a hang back hero is the best way to go and angle your hull to maximise your armour advantage.
American tanks are... crap on paper but do get a few unlisted stats that make them quite effective in game. American tanks have higher DPM than the other nations tanks which is nice, but the main selling points are their epic on the move accuracy, extremely good gun depression, the longest view range in the game and once again, epic accuracy on the move. A Patton or Chaffee can reliably hit things 400m away while doing 60. The tanks themselves though tend to be big and poorly armoured so they should be regulated to flanking and support, but once you flank someone you'll open them up like a tin can.
French tanks below tier 5 are crap, overarmoured and undergunned, but tier 5 and up their are very much the risk/reward choice in the game thanks to their autoloaders. The Autoloads are the main selling point, tier 5+ light/medium tanks and the tier 8+ heavies can spam out 6 shots in 15~ seconds but then get saddled with the combined reload time. To further the problem with them is that they have non-existent armour and horrible gun depression mean that to take advantage of the autoloader your going to need put yourself in precariously open positions, and everyone loves taking shots at easy kills. Longish aim times make French tanks completely negate the autoloaders advantage at any sort of range.
Each tank behaves differently even within each nation so it is hard to stereotype them that well. Compare, say the KV-13 (super awesome brawler of death) to the T-43 (just... ugh...), or the Panzer III/IV (speed deamon) to the Panzer IV (slow but powerful sniper), or the Easy 8 (speedy daka carrier) to the Jumbo (lots of armour).
Thanks for the replies. CoH has shown its influence as I've gone with the Germans, currently the tank destroyer line. I'm about 80k away from the Hetzer so will see if tier IV is a bad spot.
@Gobers
I do not think that Russian tanks require least intelligence to play. Think about IS-3 - the weakest tier 8 heavy, or IS-4 with most frontal weak spots ever, or IS-7 that can go 50kph but can be penned by tier 5 frontally. Face hugging with Americans is a no brainer, but when doing this with Russians the results can be disastrous. Speed and guns of their tanks make them front-line fighters mostly but earns a bad rep due to mindless rushers.
@Busby
Good point though I have 57% win in random with T-43 for 106 matches. The tank is quite good to me. I have worse stat with T20 which is marginally better than T-43.
@cf_nz
Hetzer for tier 4? Get ready for hell on Earth. Rather get T-28 or PzIII. Great tanks, different playstyles.
The Hetzer is godlike once you upgrade it, especially with the derp cannon, easily one of the best T4 tanks.
If you want hell, get the AMX40 that thing, is just too horrible for words.
I'm guessing is mostly play style differences. I've managed to get my T-43's win ratio up from like 43% to 50% over the last few weeks, but it just isn't fun to play for me. Its just too slow and turns too badly to be a fun medium. Nearly anything can pen the T-43 and hits always take out the ammo rack or fuel tank or driver or gunner. The 100mm takes years to reload, doesn't do that much damage, and has criminal accuracy problems, but it can't use the 85mm because unlike the fast and super armoured KV-13 it isn't fast or armoured at all, and the 85mm lacks the penetration for tier 7 matchmaking when you have to fight other tanks from the front.@Busby
Good point though I have 57% win in random with T-43 for 106 matches. The tank is quite good to me. I have worse stat with T20 which is marginally better than T-43.
And in Frenchy news, the looted German premiums are being removed from the store (even though the German's B2 is much better then the French B1) and there are threats of a light and medium tank nerf thanks to 60%+ global win ratio.
I think it's a rash decision frankly, they should give them atleast a month or so to let the playerbase get used to them and the statistics normalize a bit, since now most of the tanks are owned by long time players which used free xp to rush the higher tier tanks, and as we know they are mostly better than your average goon tanker.
And the removal seems like a dumb move, will they remove the other premiums when the British tree comes?
Or will they simply not make the several premium tanks which were captured since they are also redundant like the German ones are now?
If they did not make it public, 90% of players won't even notice some tanks absent from the game shop)
I've read comments about the Hetzer being arguably under-powered initially but much better after a few gun upgrades. I'm half tempted to delay the upgrade and get a camo net first as camo seems to be a strength of the Hetzer. Since I seem to be constantly fighting tanks two tiers above me the stealth option may be better for my survival. If the Hetzer proves to be awful, I've read good things about the StuG III or perhaps a shift to Panzer IV.
#1379
Well, be aware that camo netting (and its partner the Binoculars) only work when your tank has been stationary for 6 seconds.
Also be aware that guns with muzzle break will make you very, very visible after a shot.
I am making a promise to myself. If I can make the T34 grind before the update. I will never upgrade the Eng again. It will be stock at all times. It's something stupid, but if I have a fast tank I end up being dead pretty much first (others can support this...). If I'm in a slow tank it forces me to get in a good position and it seems helps my team out a hell of alot more. Slow and ponderous wins me games it seems.
PS. Why didn't I go T29 earlier?! I love the tank. Hell I am only using the 90 and it's just doing the job I needed. I can't wait for the 105.
Don't need the engine on the T32, the first one makes no real difference and you get the second one for free when you unlock the T34
Crap he's onto the secret of why I always play American tanks!Originally Posted by DoomKnights
It is not a secret. It is a common knowledge that best heavy tanks of tiers 7 and 8 are T29 and its bigger brother T32. (T32 is actually slightly smaller).
The T32 is like that dwarf older brother that can jump up and bitchslap that annoying T9 bully that is teasing him about his small stature.
Also, it seems they are finally getting the hang of how they should be doing specials, every weekend some sort of deal on tanks/equipment/stuff and possibly bonus xp, compared to the last few 'specials' this stuff is awesome.
I am regretting getting the top gun for the T29. It use to be I would find myself in high tier battles 2/10th of a time. The rest I'm one of the top dogs. Now it's 8/10th of a time I'm the under dog. When a T29 is the last slot of a tank roster you know it's going to hurt. Still those 2/8th of the time I'm the top dog is nearly always a good easy win. One shot nearly half the enemy team is fun (and I would say very abusive lol).
Bah If I had not gotten the top gun I would be on the T32 now=\
Not sure how it is now, but they used to require virtually no intelligence at all to play. Of course, the devs have finally gotten their act together and have been slowly nerfing the Russians/buffing everyone else, but the Russian medium/heavy line used to be so much better than everyone else's heavy/medium lines that it is taking a long time for the devs to undo the damage they done.
IS-8
Battlemaster anyone?
a hypothetical tier 11 tank?
Replacement for the IS-4 it seems (and I hope), looks mighty sexy, making it the fourth Soviet heavy to do so
Also the Soviet changes are coming sometimes this spring or something, in 7.3 .
#1391
Ok, now we need to kidnap a Russian bloke and make him translate this for us.
I'm your Russian bloke so plz use google translate for this page: http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/index.p...0%D0%B6%D0%B0/
It's pretty funny when people start ranting when you completely owned them cos of them thinking they can take the world alone with their tier IX or X tank. But it's really bullshit when your tier VIII, IX or X gets owned out of nowhere by arty.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011...a-mask-protest
After playing so many games with the T29 and T32. I have a feeling that the 105 may have a fake pen number showing. I can't pen a IS 3 from the front or E75 from the bottom slope. I have been testing this over and over and wasted many rounds just bouncing. I have to be so low bellow the E75 to get the bottom slope to pen it's just stupid. Yet playing with my T59 Pen the front of an IS3 just fine as well as Pen the bottom slope of the E75 no problem. What the heck?! I first thought this was based on the T59 being lower, but I kept getting into setups where I was hulled down bellow the tanks, wasting bullet after bullet to bottom slope bounces.
It almost feels like the 105 has a pen of 175 while the T59 has a pen of 198.... Just seems odd. And I am targetting all the weak spots that I normally target as well. I also keep looking at the ding marks and seeing them in the right spots... One round I spend literally 30 rounds on a E75 and IS 3 doing very little damage because of this. mmmmm. When they finished their weak spots looked like someone gave them a spit shine... grrr.
I'm kind of glad I left the T32 behind a few months ago because with all the latest changes and additions it seems really poor and weak now
It did leave quite a mark on me tho, now I try and facehug whenever I can with whatever I drive. And so far it has worked a number of times in certain tanks, especially the IS-3 (damn thing is pretty OP after the armor change, half the hits it bounces and the other half get absorbed by the armor). The turret while not being quite armored is still very low and crazily sloped bouncing most shots from taller tanks (pretty much anything except the Soviet ones) and people are still silly enough to not shoot the hatch on the top.
Also, premium, it's amazing how it changes my playstyle from conservative calculator that tries to maximize his gains to one of an extremely agressive and reckless monstrosity that takes on multiple tanks when he shouldn't, and comes out on top XD
*You caught a wild T34!*
*Name: Burn in hell you bastard*
I finally got the T34 after grinding like a crazy man. Going from M4 all the way up. I also got enough XP to get the Object 212. Should I sell my 100% upgraded T32 to buy it? I don't plan to touch the T32 EVER again. That final grind made me hate it. It's a good tank, but may it burn in hell.
There was no need to rush it really since it seems the patch was pushed into March it seems, I told you guys they would not deliver on the promise :I
Also I bought the Panther on this weekends sale (love that the community team on EU started doing their job properly) and it's rather shit without the long 75, I don't remember the short one being this horribly innacurate :<
And the matchmaking is horrendous most of the time.
I think that stock Panther I was the worst tank I've ever had. It has no armor, very sluggish and can't dent a thing. Even fully upped I've much more preferred T20 and T-43 for it.
#1400
I got steel wall in the panther multiple times. I don't know how that happens
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