Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 182

Let's Play: Europa Universalis 3: Divine Wind! Last Updated 22nd August (Post #169)

  1. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #1
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia

    Let's Play: Europa Universalis 3: Divine Wind! Last Updated 22nd August (Post #169)

    So, as a lot of you probably know I started a Let's Play thread last year (exactly a year ago in fact. What're the odds?) for Master of Magic. It went pretty well up until it suddenly didn't any more. Which is a shame.

    However, proving that I've learned nothing from the experience, I'm going to embark on another one! Master of Magic, for various reasons (most of which boil down to it being REALLY old) was a pain in the ass to actually get screenshots from. So this time I've picked something a bit more recent.

    So, what's Europa Universalis 3: Divine Wind? Well, it's a grand strategy game made by Paradox Interactive (actually more strictly its the fourth expansion pack for said strategy game). You pick a country (any country, or just about any) in the year 1399, and then lead it until the year 1820, so a bit over 400 years. Naturally, during that time period there's a lot of changes (the end of the Medieval period, the reformation, the renaissance, the enlightenment, and finally the American and French revolutions), and the game does a pretty good job of reflecting those.

    The game is real time (NOT turn based), but there's a selection of speeds and a pause function, so you never really feel short on time and you can play at your own pace. Additionally there aren't any real victory conditions beyond those you set yourself, which I think is excellent. You can sort of roleplay a country to some extent by setting yourself goals ("colonise all of South America as Morocco" was one of my favourite ones).

    So yeah, that's the game. Now what I need is a country to play, which is where you lot come in. As I said, there's a fricking ton of them, so much so that I'm not even going to attempt to provide a list. Just suggest countries your interested in and I'll tell you if they're in. After a few days, I'll go through the suggestions and pick the one I like best.

    To help you out though I'm going to list a few that I almost certainly won't pick, along with why:

    - Anything in the New World, or Subsaharan Africa. They're playable, but they tend to spend the first hundred years or so with not a lot to do (especially the native americans), and then have a good chance of being pulverised when the Europeans show up. You can win with them, certainly (someone on the Paradox forums nearly conquered the whole world with the Iroquois Confederacy at one point), but they don't really make for a good Let's Play in my mind.
    - Granada. The last Muslim nation in Spain. Mostly exists for Castille to beat on the moment the game starts. I've played them a few times, and without cheating or exploits (neither of which I want to use here) I haven't lasted a month.
    - Irish Minors. The four independent Irish kingdoms of Munster, Leinster, Connacht and Tyrone. Read what I said for Granada, then replace "Castille" with "England".
    - Ming (China). Pretty powerful, but got their game mechanics tweaked heavily in the last expansion. The new mechanics are a good idea but they have a pretty poor implementation at the moment, which leaves Ming twiddling its thumbs for a lot of the early game.
    - Steppe Hordes (Golden Horde, Timurids, Chagatai, etc). Like Ming, they got some new game mechanics that haven't been ironed out yet, and consequentially aren't a lot of fun at the moment.

    So yeah, none of those. If I remember anything else I really, really don't want to play I'll add it. Equally if anyone wants I can post up some World Map screenshots, but I don't think most of the countries are labeled so they probably won't help an awful lot.

    EDIT: Maps! Apologies for the screenshots being absolutely enormous. A lot of countries aren't named, but it should give you a general idea of what's available, and if you particularly want to know what a given country is, just ask.

    Europe and North Africa



    The Middle East and India



    The Far East

    Last edited by n0z3k1ll3r; 23rd Feb 11 at 6:36 PM.
    Let's Play Europa Universalis 3: Divine Wind
    Let's Play Master of Magic: Abandoned
    In the beginning there was nothing. Then Steam crashed.

  2. #2
    You could play as Japan and spread tentacle hentai throughout the world.

    More seriously, if there's a Byzantine Empire to play, they're a favorite of mine.
    "Fear nothing except in the certainty that you are your enemy's begetter and its only hope of healing. For everything that does evil is in pain."
    -The Maestro Sartori, Imajica by Clive Barker

  3. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #3
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Byzantines are in. They're down to two provinces by 1399, but they are still hanging in there. They used to be pretty easy to bounce back with, but the trick that I used to do that seems not to work any more so they're probably going to be a major challenge now.

    Japan is split into four Daimyos (not matching particularly well up to historical ones, but its the thought that counts) and the Emperor (who as far as I can tell is near on unplayable). You have to beat the snot out of the other Daimyos to actually unify Japan itself. Haven't actually done it yet myself (it's a change from the latest expansion, prior to which you just had a unified Japan from day 1).

    EDIT: Maps added to first post.
    Last edited by n0z3k1ll3r; 23rd Feb 11 at 6:36 PM.

  4. #4
    Brandenburg -> Holy Roman Empire unification. I really like the new HRE changes and there's a lot of potential for rivals and constant war beyond just slowly conquering everything.

  5. #5
    Member Chouza's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Baja California
    Deccan or Timurids, both look like a challenge. Looking foward to this Thread.

  6. #6
    Member SeventhStorm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Krumpin fings wiv ma boyz
    Aragorn->Conquer Europe and bring Spain in as the new Rome!
    Life gives you a present...

    And then kicks you in the balls >_>

  7. #7
    Suddenly Dapper Martians! Trizzdog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    B.C. , Canada
    I suggest one of the 2:

    Being one of the Scandinavian nations (I did Sweden), with the goal of making the Scandinavian Union. Then beating the other nations in the colonization of NA.

    Being Vijayanagara (did I spell that right?) and take over India. Then deal with infinite Timurid bullshit. Eventually beat them with espionage. Then go from there.

    These were my most interesting games I've had in this game. European nations can be fun, but I've never been able to do more than being a belligerent asshole. As France I've had nations who don't know who the fuck I am (Ming China) declare war on me. Probably because as the bigger euros all you can do that's fun is beat on people. The smaller guys are just a challenging version of beating on people. Also, any african or native nation is shitty. I've tried, but anytime you do anything it's like LOL TRIBAL RETARDS TIEM and you're back to square one.

  8. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #8
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Trizz: Recent patches finally stopped Tribal Democracies from getting Tribal Succession Crisis, so the North American nations are a lot more playable now. Mesoamericans and the Incas are still as hard as ever, though.

  9. #9
    Suddenly Dapper Martians! Trizzdog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    B.C. , Canada
    That's cool. I guess now it's possible to do things until the big mean europeans come to stomp all over you.

  10. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #10
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    They still have a pretty slow early game, and they tech at an abysmal rate before they westernise, but yeah things are a bit better now. I'd still recommend vassalising other natives over actually taking provinces though; lack of forts hurts a lot.

  11. #11
    Member Aesaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    I vote for the Byzantine Empire. Or Muscovy.

  12. Gamers Lounge Senior Member General Discussions Senior Member  #12
    Doltformer Kirjava's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    The Habsburg Empire
    Your last Let's Play was hilarious n0z3, looking forward to this one I'm gonna throw my weight behind the Byzantines or Brandenburg.
    Doltmarines, for the Emprah: the place to play Dawn of War: Soulstorm
    "The ecosystem! We destroy that and this is ovah! CHAAAARGE!" - Lomax
    Blood and Balls: the Relicnews Doltathon Blood Bowl Blog (awaiting renovation)
    "I'd probably lose my shit if I saw a mushroom with a mouth, eyes, and legs walking toward me in real life. That doesn't make me afraid to play Mario." - Starblade

  13. #13
    Member Rook's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Lancaster, United Kingdom
    i'd like to see you play as either Tibet or Korea. The far east seems pretty appealing for this game as i know very little of its history.

    failing that i'll throw my vote in for Brandenburg.

  14. #14
    Member Methuselath's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
    I vote Malacca. Let's see how far you go with those fuckers eh?

    Note: I died horribly with them. Uniting the Arab Peninsular under Hedjaz is way, way easier.



  15. #15
    Nuffle's Bitch Integrity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Spring Valley, pop: 500
    Fucking Timurids.

    I'll throw my lot in for Byzantium too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wargrim
    ...if it has a gun and tracks, i will drive it. If it has a gun and wings, i will fly it. And if it has a gun and legs, i will drive over it.

  16. #16
    Member Pocktio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    MICHAEL KORS WATCHES
    ByzantiuByzantiu
    B

    Byzantium....fucking mobile internet

  17. #17
    Member Imperial Honour's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Western Australia
    Byzantium! Or failing that, one of the Japanese clans.
    One percent of the Blood Gods consume 99 percent of the blood and skulls. #OccupyTheSkullThrone
    "Repent! For Tomorrow You Shall Die!"
    STEAM & GFWL: Malkael (Brother Malkael)

  18. #18
    Member Caesar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    CT, USA
    Austria was always fun. But they had a gold mine so inflation was never a problem. Then you got to walk around killing things. Barring that, I always enjoyed Napoli, the Papal States, and Switzerland. Although...my last Swiss game ended terribly since my merchants kicked everyone else's ass and then people stopped making trade agreements with me and forced me out of every market ever. That didn't end well. Trying to open markets by military force ended with the First World War starting in 1436 when everyone decided they hated Switzerland.

  19. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #19
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Depending how I'm feeling I may start this in a couple of hours or so. So any further nominations should hurry up!

  20. Child's Play Donor  #20
    Col. (Ret.) Tempe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    NGC 6334
    My vote goes for Venice.
    'All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled with sober senses, his real conditions in life, and his relations with his kind.'

  21. #21
    So far the Barneys have the most votes I think

  22. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #22
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Leaving it open a bit longer. I'll make a start tomorrow morning.

  23. #23
    Research Engineer ohaunlaim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Where my mind wanders
    Korea.... cause its about time those guys finally got a real chance at putting it to the two bullies, japan and china they are stuck between.
    -"One research ship above the rest."

  24. #24
    Member Caesar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    CT, USA
    What version of the game are you using? I have EU3, In Nomine, and Napoleon's Ambition from Gamersgate but I've yet to purchase Heir to the Throne and Divine Wind. I heard there were problems with the Gamersgate versions.

  25. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #25
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    I have Divine Wind, with the most recent (I think) beta patch. All copies from Gamersgate, no problems that I've found yet. There are incompatibilities between Steam and Gamersgate versions I think, as Steam's DRM changes the games Checksum, but if you have all versions from GG they should be fine.

  26. #26
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Portugal, Leiria
    Go with Portugal. Survive Castille and colonize the new world. All of it.

    My current game status at 1718:

    Spoiler



    But you should really pick a country based on what you want to do, colonization build a trade empire, world conquest or just survival.

  27. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #27
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    That's quite a lot of new world you have there. Considerably more than my Moors managed. Although admittedly that was a 5 way multiplayer game.

    Spoiler



    Anyway, I'm going to review the candidates now and make a choice.

    ----------

    And I've chosen Byzantium, partly because they seemed to be the runaway favourite, but also because I've not really played them since Divine Wind, which apparently has made them far more challenging than before. I've already played the first session, and I'm converting and uploading screenshots now. First update will follow directly.

  28. #28
    Woot! Lamellar armor and greek fire ftw!

  29. Gamers Lounge Senior Member General Discussions Senior Member  #29
    Doltformer Kirjava's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    The Habsburg Empire
    Let's get Byzantine on those guys, i.e. labyrinthe and over-complicated. It'll all work out.

  30. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #30
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Ok, everyone ready? Then away we go! I'll start off walking us through the interface and terminology a bit, as it'll save lots of confusion later on.

    update

    Last edited by n0z3k1ll3r; 12th Aug 12 at 1:26 AM.

  31. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #31
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia

    Spoiler

    Last edited by n0z3k1ll3r; 12th Aug 12 at 1:26 AM.

  32. #32
    Teach those Catholic S.O.B.s that Byzantium doesn't tolerate heathens. My vote is to invade Rome. That'll teach them for not helping us when all these heretics invaded.

  33. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #33
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Rome is a bit of a thorny one. Partly because Naples are currently in the middle of occupying it (or were last I checked), but mostly because going after them will bring in the Defender of the Faith. Which is Castille, I think, who are capable of completely overpowering on both Land and Sea. I might consider it if Castille gets embroiled in a war with, say, France.

    On the Catholic side, Venice seems to be the prime target (they own a lot of my cores, and they're currently being attacked by a fair array of other countries plus rebels in Athens).

  34. #34
    Member Open Blue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    I thought you knew?!
    Build an army, start stomping on the smaller coastal provinces and then head east to reconquer your core territories.
    Everyone dies like you live: Alone
    -Zach Weiner

  35. #35
    Member Pocktio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    MICHAEL KORS WATCHES
    Delicious LP Noze, as usual of course.

    Would you say Divine Wind is a must if I want to start playing this? I believe I have the steam copy of EU3 complete with heir to the throne.
    Knife King of Doltland

    I'm not surprised. Anything within three feet of you seems to end up full of knife shaped holes.

  36. Gamers Lounge Senior Member General Discussions Senior Member  #36
    Doltformer Kirjava's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    The Habsburg Empire
    It would be dishonourable to leave the Turkish enemy unbroken for too long! Vengeance against the shifty Venetians and the fraud in Rome can come after we have secured Anatolia and Greece. After this, perhaps we can teach Venice a lesson, or maybe consider the reconquest of North Africa, long lost to our noble lineage!

  37. #37
    Nuffle's Bitch Integrity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Spring Valley, pop: 500
    And once again I wish that I could wrap my head around these games.

    Keep it up. :o

  38. #38
    Member Pocktio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    MICHAEL KORS WATCHES
    Ha, yes my sexy Integrity. Yesss. You make me want to pay 14.99 for Divine Wind and I'll end up trying it for 5 minutes before my head explodes.

  39. Gamers Lounge Senior Member General Discussions Senior Member  #39
    Doltformer Kirjava's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    The Habsburg Empire
    Hmmmm. Would cost me £30 to get the complete EUIII and then the Divine Wind add-on. And I suspect that Blood Bowl and Total War already suck up what little time I get at my own computer by themselves. Still, maybe next time I get paid, if I've got a burning desire to give myself an aneurysm...

  40. #40
    Eternal Coward Rincewind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland.
    This game looks awesome. What kind of computer is needed for it? I might grab a cheap laptop just for this. :-)

    As for what next, without knowing anything about the game, why don't you consolidate your core regions before embarking on longer campaigns? If Venice is busy with others, grab their provinces that are considered your core and sue for peace afterwards. Would also be nice to see more about teching up, trade and province development. Oh, and show us the Emperor's stats!
    Egregious Professor Of Cruel And Unusual Geography

  41. #41
    Member Kalimac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Sweden
    Awesome thread, will follow. Also, let's-plays are most often funniest when they're played with batshit strategies and plans, so set up some funny goals for yourself.
    » Initiate a tactical withdrawal! «

  42. #42
    I don't know what difficulty he's playing on, but unless Nozekiller declares war on the Ottomans like right now or in the next few decades or so they're pretty easy to beat (especially if the AI does something stupid like try to conquer the entire Middle East and Central Asia at the same time, which I've seen it try to do), and with that many territories as a human player everything else becomes sorta...inevitable.

    Which is why my vote is for Byzantium to become a hardline religious dictatorship that resents the entire Western world for not helping them out when the muslims pushed them back. That, and because the only two things that motivates a good Orthodox Christian is good works and cold hard revenge.

  43. #43
    Are you going to take Greece or the rest of Anatolia back first?

  44. #44
    Member Aesaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    I support the sacking of Venice as retaliation for the 4th Crusade.

  45. #45
    Conquer or ally with Russia and bring the world under the heel of a united Orthodox faction

  46. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #46
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Pocktio: Divine Wind is only really necessary if you want to do multiplayer (which is awesome so long as you can find people prepared to commit to it for the long run). It's a good addition for single player, but hardly necessary. You could easily stand to wait a bit until they've patched it some more, as there's still a few additions that aren't implemented too well (like Ming).

    Rince: It's fairly CPU heavy (there's a lot going on in the game) but overall the requirements aren't particularly high. And yes it's exactly as awesome as it looks.

    Everyone: Of the current options, the Greek territories held by Venice and a few smaller states are the softer target compared to Ottoman held Anatolia. Venice potentially brings in Castille, but there are ways to minimise the risk of that happening. Venice would be my choice largely for that reason, and it will provide extra provinces for dealing with the Ottomans.

    Also there's a mission along the line somewhere for the Byzantines that lets me disband the Papacy. Which is sweet.

  47. #47
    Eternal Coward Rincewind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland.
    Is it worth getting all the expansions in one go? I think my work computer could run it...

  48. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #48
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Definately get the first three (Napoleon's Ambition, In Nomine, and Heir to the Throne). The first couple are in the "Complete" version. Heir to the Throne needs to be bought seperately, but I highly recommend it as it adds a ton of extra features, especially the new Casus Belli system. Divine Wind isn't as necessary, and is still a bit pricey. If you can afford it it's still worth it though.

    A couple of things to note: all the expansions require the previous expansions, so you have to get them in order. Also, make sure you buy them from the same place (I've linked Gamersgate for personal preference, but Steam and I think Impulse carry them as well), as they have some compatibility issues stemming from the client copy protection on the latter two.

  49. #49
    Eternal Coward Rincewind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland.
    Well I just bought them all since it was just 35e for the lot. Here's hoping it works!

  50. General Discussions Senior Member Dawn of War Senior Member  #50
    Oppressive Forces of Titty n0z3k1ll3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Make sure to register your copy on the Paradox forums, as that will give you access to the beta patches.

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •