I suspect host was downloading porno at the time. /rolleyes.
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#151
I suspect host was downloading porno at the time. /rolleyes.
E=mc^(OMG)/wtf
#152
Saw the weekend challenge and promoted my first characters (Soldier and Infiltrator) after a little grinding. Also bought my first Spectre pack today, got a Revenant. I was thinking maybe it would work well with Marksman?
Anyway, a day of firsts. Still have yet to try the Engineer. Played a game yesterday as Sentinel just using Warp/Throw and managed to do decently on Silver with a level 12 Sentinel. I accidentally joined a Silver (left the setting on from the previous game) but I was pleasantly surprised. We managed to beat it, but it was hard work.
Have yet to try out the Engineer class, or indeed any non-Human character. I really want to unlock some Asari and try that out.
Originally Posted by Starblade
There's currently a minor bug with promoting; one or more of your characters might fail to be reset, retaining all their powers, but getting -84 points. Every time they level up, the negative points will steadily be bought back until they reach 0 points at level 20.
If it happens to you, just play until the character is level 20 and then promote again if you actually wanted to respec him/her. Or use up a respec card to force a reset on the character.
#154
Revenant is awesome with turian soldier and marksman. Be sure to pick up the stability talents that come with Turian.... err... Veteran? And how you evolve Marksman skill is up to you.
I went for Accuracy/Headshot/Acc+RoF, but RoF/Duration/Recharge can be viable too.
The idea is to use cover and spray in the general direction of someone's torso (or neck if you have marksman on).
If you have to fire without cover, it's best to do so when your target is in short range or when you can trigger Marksman.
Be careful with Turians and weapon stability mods, some will drive your recoil into the negatives, and you will end up recoiling downwards. Nothing horrible, it's just that it can be annoying.
Do not put a scope on the revenant.
Damage, Piercing, Capacity is up to you.
#155
Lol yeah I read that overstabilizing weapons makes the recoil go downwards. Happens on the Vindicator too.
EDIT:
Human Sentinel is hilarious. I promoted both my main classes so when I wanted to play some Silver games, I didn't really have any levelled characters. My Vanguard, 2nd highest, was level 10, and my Sentinel was level 14. So I got horribly overwhelmed at times, and running out of ammo wasn't too fun. But I had Warp/Throw on a low cooldown, and I put down wave after wave of Geth Pyros, Rocket Troopers, Hunters, Troopers, all helpfully bunched up for biotic explosions. I even took down some Primes for luck.
This combination is absolutely broken. There's no reason to do anything else as a Human Sentinel. I can't wait to get some of the rarer weapons.
EDIT 2: What are the Killstreak Squad awards? Does anyone know?
Finally got the hang of Drell Vanguard. Paper-thin barrier, so you have to be precise, patient, and hug cover. Focusing on Biotic Charge and Pull gives you the opportunity for tons of biotic explosions; choose a nice unshielded target, Pull, charge at it, dodge back into cover while everyone nearby is staggered/destroyed by the explosion. Pull's cooldown is so short that you can spam it until some unlucky enemy gets yanked up into the air. And if someone else sets off the explosion you still get the credit for the kill, so it combos well with Adepts and Sentinels if you don't want to charge. The 6th rank Drell Assassin power gives the option of reducing Heavy Pistol weight, which I think is a good idea; you'll be behind cover a lot more often than a Human Vanguard, and your barriers are too thin for automatics, so a Carnifex or Paladin is a good weapon to have.
I'll have to try a Stasis / Charge combo for the Asari Vanguard next; I have a feeling the results will be just as satisfying, but without the paper-thin barrier. Another benefit for the Asari Chargesplosion build is that Stasis works on shielded targets too.
I tried really hard to make an Incinerate / Cryo Blast Quarian Engineer work, but the combo is just too fiddly. Most of the time someone kills your frozen target before you can Incinerate it. When I did manage to hit the frozen target, the extra damage didn't really seem worth it. Weaker targets would've been killed just as easily by using two Incinerates in a row, which are almost as fast to do, or just weapon fire after the first Incinerate. Stronger enemies didn't really seem to take that much extra damage from the Incinerates after being chilled. Incinerates and weapon fire during the cooldown period did just as well in the long run.
Instead I focused on Sentry and Incinerate, and pack a Hornet (6th rank SMG weight reduction for Quarian Defender power, so my cooldown is at a 197% bonus). It's a very aggressive build, involving lots of close range Incinerates and SMG fire, while using the Sentry (with flamethrower) to keep enemies distracted. In Bronze its very effective, and in Silver it can still pull its weight if I keep to cover.
#157
I'm beginning to wonder how tough Gold is.
So I'd been getting a little bored of MP lately - then I made a human infiltrator melee build and suddenly the fun came back. I'd recently unlocked the Disciple shotgun too so having the melee mod on that, plus melee maxed out in the tech tree....stealth ninja! I've never actually come across anyone else doing this build, although I've read pages earlier about someone else trying it. It is fun just cause it's unorthodox but doing it with random pub players comes with mixed results. I've found silver easy as usual with it, but gold is very touchy. There are some maps where you kind of just get stuck playing bodyguard/wetnurse to the rest of your team at times as it's ranged blob vs ranged blob but it's pretty cool on some of the maps being able to stalk your prey with this build - just the shotgun gives enough of a cooldown bonus to get you in and out for surgical strikes as needed, as long as it isn't into a large ranged blob - even then, you can often pick off the outliers and stragglers.
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Very true. Although in addition to wetnurse/medics you can also serve as bait; which in itself leads to a world of fun!
Also, I reckon that it is entirely possible to have an infiltrator only team and come outcome top: two snipers and two shotguns/melee would probably work.
At level 20 with melee maxed out in the tech tree and a melee mod on the shotgun, you can one shot Cerberus turrets with heavy melee - sometimes there is a little health left that a gunshot will take out. This was on Silver. I seem to remember when I tried it on Gold it took 2 hits and I'd imagine turret health, along with all the other enemy health, goes up. It works well for rescuing teammates who blundered into their arc. Infiltrate - whack - revive. It is annoying to try and play this build with a vanguard on the team though as they'll constantly be disrupting any attempt to line up your infiltrated heavy melee hits and stealing all your kills.
I made one Infiltrator with a similar build a long time ago. Teammates kept on killing the enemies I was sneaking up on, so you really need to Lone Wolf to make it work in public games. On rounds with a hack objective you're better off trying to distract enemies away from your team, because you'll not be much use in defending the objective area. The upside is that you can one-shot a Phantom on Bronze, prompting a "Hell yeah, bitch! In your face!" satisfaction.
EDIT: Respeced an infiltrator to this build. Turns out I was wrong, you can't one-shot a Phantom on Bronze. However they take so much damage that they're easy prey afterwards. You can also solo an Atlas, you just need to take cover for a couple seconds after each cloaked-heavy-melee hit, and always hit the Atlas from behind so it can't hit you back instantly. Brutes take a moment to turn around also, so the same tactic might work on them too. Banshees and Geth Primes probably turn around too quickly for this to work.
Taking the bonus power with Cloak means you can freeze/chill an enemy prior to assassinating them, which helps. You can also freeze a nearby enemy, then assassinate his buddy, to reduce the enemy fire you take when revealing yourself.
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#162
Bitches don't know about my Black Widow.
Second guy was host.
#163
Bronze is pretty easy to rape with Bronze even with my Viper III on level 1. I still think that the Viper is one of the best weapons for Bronze, and easy to grind out over 35k scores on a regular basis. I got over 50k in one game too, but I do find it a little boring to snipe for 11 waves... :P
Got my Victory Pack but no Commendation Pack at first. Commendation came later. Started getting worried there.
#164
it takes time for bioware to distribute the commendation packs (I'm guessing since it is given on an individual basis). I got the N7 Sniper Rifle from mine.
#165
I got a Crusader. Haven't had a go with it yet though.
About taking out phantoms: it's even funnier to imagine the faces of you teammates when you headshot one while it's doing a cartwheel....
#167
I got the Eagle (I), which is quite disappointing. The Carnifex (II) is by far the better pistol, and if I want something that doesn't way a lot I take the Predator (IX).
Ah well.
I am an Iron Warrior! Iron Within, Iron Without!
Got the Valiant here. Hilariously OP.
#169
Dammit. Being a sniper-inclined player I was dying to get the Valiant. Lucky bastard
EDIT: Although
- Due to the nature of the Crusader, it is often better to use the Crusader as more of a sniper rifle (without the scope). Headshots are very lethal, but difficult to achieve with other shotguns unless it is at point-blank range. The Crusader does not have this problem since it is pretty much pinpoint accurate. It is best to think counter-intuitively when using this shotgun.
Maybe I should try that with my infiltrator build in Silver...
#170
"- Greeting, dear audience. Today, a pair of stupid krogans is going to fight the Reapers... Or kind of that...
- Or try to. Yep... Okay, let's go.
- God be with us.
- Who's the god of krogan again?
- I think they have no gods... They, uhm, kinda worship ancestors and stuff. 'Cause they're stupid! Barbarians."
Two level 1 Krogans. Gold. Full extract.
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EDIT: I was just doing a bit of math and discovered that there's actually a certain point where some weapons are more effective against armor with Extended Barrel instead of Piercing Mods, depending on difficulty.
...doesn't stop me from taking both.
The new 99k credit packs are awesome, got claymore and saber, Claymore with level V accuracy+damage mods is a mid range beast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BasebmHiqIo
Geth, Batarian, Asari Justicar, Krogan Battlemaster.
Where's the apologises?
Awesome. Though if the Krogan Vanguard is at all easy to get we can all look forward to even more terrible Vanguard spam.
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#174
It's perfectly possible to be a good Vanguard.
OMG Geth must haz. New weapons are kinda meh, with this unlock system I doubt I'll ever see them.
(Formerly "The Herald")
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-Moe
#176
A krogan vanguard enters the battlefield. Moments later, survivors wander the wreckage, scared, confused.
Last edited by Starblade; 6th Apr 12 at 10:21 AM.
My Interceptor is better than your Interceptor.
#177
Omg I want a Geth Infiltrator. It would feel so right to be using a Widow owning everything in sight.
Gethiltrator, oh yes.
Sure, but that's not my experience with 90% of them online. Charge off, die, revive, repeat. Krogan seem to do the same thing, almost as if they are on a bloodrage. The combination can only be both glorious and horrifying.It's perfectly possible to be a good Vanguard.
#180
Someone should tell pubbie vanguards that the ABCs have a N in it (the n is for "Nova"!).
Asari and Drell Vanguards play better with others, since they have two support powers that can help teammates. There's also less screen-shaking madness due to the lack of Nova.
Krogan Vanguard is unlikely to have Nova, so my guess is they'll have have another support biotic power (Throw, maybe? Or something new) and cluster or lift grenades. I would not be surprised if people use biotic charge for the purpose of getting into melee range, and for replenishing barrier while in melee combat.
Geth Engineer will probably be my favourite; I love playing Engineers now. The Batarians also look like they have a bunch of new powers the other races don't have, like that energy net the sentinel used in the video.
#182
Not if you're a ninja!
(that means Statis/Charge Asari or Lift/Charge Drell. Sod grenades)
#183
The existing MP Krogans have an Armor Power of some kind, wonder if the Krogan Vanguard will have it too. If yes, it will be by far the toughest Vanguard race. If not, well. 1200 potential health and 1600 shields is still nothing to sneeze at.
Afoxi, if Krogan vanguards have, say, Barrier, it's going to be nuts.
A word on vanguards in general: I've played one,a human one in fact. I've played it a LOT. If the game works perfectly smoothly, you be nigh invulnerable doing the bloodrage charge thing. In fact attacking like a madman is in many ways the safest thing to do. But a little bit of lag and it goes all to shit. I've stopped playing Human Vanguard not because it's a bad class, but because sometimes you're over open ground, face to face with someone, and the charge button flat decides not to work. You can't really know if the charge-nova-nova gameplay is going to work at all until you try it on a given host, and if it doesn't work a character built for it is pretty shit. Of all classes I've played they're the most vulnerable to getting shafted by lag.
If battlemasters have Krogan Berserker and Rage skills, when that lag isn't a problem they're going to be stupid-awesome.
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#185
Got a Black Widow in a premium spectre pack. I'll give it a go, but I found the Widow to work perfectly on Silver, and the Black Widow would have to justify its extra weight and lessened damage. The Widox really suits my run and gun sniper infiltrator, although I imagine running and gunning might be less effective on Gold simply because you draw fire so much more quickly and it's punishing.
#186
Black Widow pays itself off in Gold, when overkill damage doesn't bleed past shields.
#187
Noted, thanks.Black Widow pays itself off in Gold, when overkill damage doesn't bleed past shields.
Really need the black widow, lost it after a week of online and I haven't been able to regain it yet. Am I right in remembering that it has 3 shots per clip like SP?
#189
Haven't tried it yet but I don't see why it wouldn't.
Asari and Drell Vanguards play better with others, since they have two support powers that can help teammates. There's also less screen-shaking madness due to the lack of Nova.
Krogan Vanguard is unlikely to have Nova, so my guess is they'll have have another support biotic power (Throw, maybe? Or something new) and cluster or lift grenades. I would not be surprised if people use biotic charge for the purpose of getting into melee range, and for replenishing barrier while in melee combat.
Geth Engineer will probably be my favourite; I love playing Engineers now. The Batarians also look like they have a bunch of new powers the other races don't have, like that energy net the sentinel used in the video.
A working human vanguard build plays fine with others. If I'm making a mess of a pile of enemies, they're not going to die super fast, but they're probably going to focus on me and leave the rest of the team alone. They're also almost always not the only group of enemies on the map. I've got this front locked down, go snipe someone else. Or start setting up biotic combos, as that does more damage than sniping anyway. Not to mention how handy it can be to have a majority of the enemy force locked down far away from the rest of the team on objective waves.
It looks like various preview sources outside the bioware blog are claiming Barrier on Battlemasters.
#192
Batarians seem to have an ommi-shot gun :S
#193
Would make sense, all krogan classes have a heavy damage reduction skill.
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Whelp, I know which class I'm switching to if the Battlemaster has barrier, goodbye Krogan Sentinel.
That's what it looked like to me. Also omni-fist.Batarians seem to have an ommi-shot gun
I'm also thinking that the geths white shield of death is it's heavy melee. Since his grab move ends with the same sparky effect.
Guys just pointing it out that we've got a multiplayer meet-up thread .
Hopefully with enough people we should be able to get a ton of games organized for the new online DLC
#197
I take it all back. Black Widow against Geth, got over 100k in a silver game. I need to check to see if Bioware changed it (have people been noticing when they patch things?) but I seem to recall there was a significant reset time in SP to account for which makes it difficult to chain headshots quickly. I found this feature simply does not exist in any meaningful way for MP. That was the main disadvantage of the BW, apart from its weight. It makes the Black Widow a mix between the Viper and the Widow- powerful punch, ability to chain headshots, and armor piercing.Got a Black Widow in a premium spectre pack. I'll give it a go, but I found the Widow to work perfectly on Silver, and the Black Widow would have to justify its extra weight and lessened damage. The Widox really suits my run and gun sniper infiltrator, although I imagine running and gunning might be less effective on Gold simply because you draw fire so much more quickly and it's punishing.
#198
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/9544143
No changes whatsoever.
Yeah you really ripped those Geth a new one Codex, I think I was sporting a measly 40k at the end of that game
The terrible game where we died on wave 3 was probably more impressive, think you managed to amass 32k by the time it was over.
On the official forums there's lots of hate for the Soldier; everyone thinks its the weakest class.
Initially I was inclined to agree, since Adrenaline Rush just doesn't compare to what other classes get as a mandatory power. Frag Grenades, while powerful, can be pretty scarce in Silver and Gold matches, so it's tough to rely on them.
On the other hand Concussive Shot is deceptively powerful. It has a very low base cooldown, so you can spam it every 1.5 seconds as long as your weapon cooldown bonus is +100% or better. It doesn't do as much damage as Carnage or Incinerate, but the quick cooldown means there's no penalty to just firing it off at anything. The force will stagger protected enemies for a couple seconds, and knockdown non-protected ones, and you usually only have to fire it twice at basic enemies. I've been playing a sniper soldier with Mantis X and Concussive Shot 6, and routinely being near the top for score contribution. About two-thirds of my kills are from concussive shot. In Silver the results were pretty similar. Haven't tried it in Gold.
I could probably also pair it up with a Katana shotgun, and go for short range kills.
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