Prometheus

[konfeta]

So, just to make sure I am not going crazy after seeing this, Prometheus is essentially someone trying to cram a metric fuckton of multi-layered symbolism into high budget version of a Sy-Fi Original movie, sprinkled with just enough of a shoddy attempt to cash in on an existing brand (Aliens) to lure more people into seeing the movie?

I wanted to enjoy/"comprehend" this movie, but after sir "TAEK OFF MAH HELMET" I had to turn off my brain for the sake of my sanity. Perhaps the extended cut with it's 30 minutes of new footage will salvage the believability of the characters (and by extension the plot)...

[Starblade]

So, just to make sure I am not going crazy after seeing this, Prometheus is essentially someone trying to cram a metric fuckton of multi-layered symbolism into high budget version of a Sy-Fi Original movie, sprinkled with just enough of a shoddy attempt to cash in on an existing brand (Aliens) to lure more people into seeing the movie?

Yes except I'm willing to bet that Prometheus's plot wasn't literally designed around the title and box art like SyFy original movies are (no, really, that's where it comes from).

[reki]

[Misiok]

So as long as we don't do anything inappropriate in the seas and oceans we won't create sub-human species, good to know!

[Ira Aduro]

pretty awesome summary reki

I'm totally comfortable with my guilty pleasure . . . Prometheus.

[roflmao]

@Reki: Well, yeah. Now that I actually think about it the DNA part is pretty ridiculous as well.

[Tregelen]

RLM sums up the plot holes pretty well:

[QuixotesGhost]

(Sure, within the pyramid-complex there is a lame excuse at a 'breathable atmosphere', I think just as a directorial excuse so the actors can take their helmets off, so the audience can theoretically empathize with them more easily, and tell them apart. This seems to happen a lot in any movie set in a non-human-breathable atmosphere, and I've always disliked it).

The face is an actor's primary tool! Delivery is important, body language is important; but it's really about what they can do with their face. You gotta get them out of those helmets to get the audience to care about or empathize with them. I mean think about it, Return of the Jedi, what was the first thing they did with Vader after he had his change of heart, when they wanted the audience to stop seeing him as the Big Bad Villain, but as Luke's father:



That's right. They got him out of that helmet. I don't think anyone wants to watch a movie where we are staring at reflective globes like this the whole time:



Now sometimes you can get around it by doing those extreme "inside the helmet" shots like Ironman does, but that'd get confusing real quick for a movie with an ensemble cast like "Prometheus".

[tadamir]

QG; I get all that, I understand why it is done in a practical movie-making sense, I just don't like how it's done most of the time.

Some movies where the actors are space-suited up a lot of the time have used colour-coded suits to differentiate the characters, or at least obvious name badges, which is practical in a real world sense too.
I'm just saying that I prefer these devices to tell characters apart, instead of the lame; "oh, the atmosphere seems to be just perfect for humans to breathe, lets all take our helmets off". Never mind the possible microbes we haven't bothered to scan for.

Maybe I feel that the audience should be given a little more credit to be able to follow what's going on without the rampant-helmet-taking-off-ness?

Getting the actors out of the helmets did the complete opposite to what you said it should do for me; it made me think those characters were just stupid, and I didn't want to care about them any more, why should I, when they so foolishly don't care about themselves enough to keep their damn helmets on?!

It just made me groan when it happened in Prometheus, and I wanted the movie to be better than that, just disappointed I guess.

I still want to like the movie for some reason, perhaps because there is such a dearth of good sci-fi in cinemas lately, so I'll go see it again soon in 2d.

[Faek]

Getting the actors out of the helmets did the complete opposite to what you said it should do for me; it made me think those characters were just stupid, and I didn't want to care about them any more, why should I, when they so foolishly don't care about themselves enough to keep their damn helmets on?!

This so much. I basically came out of the movie saying that they all deserved to die. Except for the captain and his two friends. The captain in particular was awesome.

[Nurizeko]

To be fair those helmets were almost all clear glass and well lit, it wasn't as if their faces were really obscured.

[fuggles]

Yeah, you could easily make opaque or stylised space helmets which were see through.

Extended the parody from a few pages back:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97533444

[mlai]

Today, I went to the cinema to watch Prometheus. While waiting for Prometheus, I also watched Snow White & The Huntsman.
Not what I anticipated, but I think SW&TH is the less stupid of the 2 films I watched today.
Mr. Ridley Scott, your movie is stupider than the movie starring Kirsten Stewart. I hope you feel that in your hemmorhoids.

[Flagg]

Is the hate for Prometheus still at full steam? :P

That said, I watched The Thing prequel again last night (DVD). I have to say, I do think the The Thing prequel is actually a better prequel than Prometheus. Yes Prometheus isn't a pure prequel, strands of Alien DNA, etc, but I think the people that did The Thing prequel went to greater lengths to tie the two films together.

[Fish Of Doom]

saw this last night, enjoyed it, am otherwise indifferent.

also, pretty landscapes were pretty.

[CommissarRezail]

I got one question... ok several

Spoiler

Why was that damn face hugger so damn big!! It was basically mofo cracken, not to mention it got so big in such a short amount of time. Not only that , my god that one face hugger could infect 1000s of humans man.. Also where did the face hugger body go, its to big to simply rolled over, did it dissolved after it infected the engineer? OH OH, one more thing what are the odds the ships lands near the two women and not only lands on one, then manage by a stoke of godly luck dam near kill the other one. What are the odds it fall in her direction. OH side note engineer is a captain and plays a flute like captain Picard :P

[konfeta]

Oooh, the editing room finally got their hands on this:

http://www.the-editing-room.com/prometheus.html

[fuggles]

Maybe I should offer that website my mad writing skills...?

[CommissarRezail]

Spoiler

So was that Shaw captured alien ship they found in Aliens 1?

[Sneaking viper]

Nope, the ship in Alien (on LV-426) had a engineer (or Space jockey as they were called then) in the pilot seat.

Another weird thing is in Alien the Engineer is a fossil and long dead, they mention that he is too big for the seat since he has decomposed and fossilized. But how is that possible if he is wearing a body armor and not a exoskeleton as clearly envisioned in Alien?

[Ramrod]

Nope, the ship in Alien (on LV-426) had a engineer (or Space jockey as they were called then) in the pilot seat.

Another weird thing is in Alien the Engineer is a fossil and long dead, they mention that he is too big for the seat since he has decomposed and fossilized. But how is that possible if he is wearing a body armor and not a exoskeleton as clearly envisioned in Alien?

Organic armour? It's not that hard to imagine, since every piece of Jockey junk has always looked like bone or whatever.

[Sneaking viper]

Correct their armour could be organic, but that present another issue. In Alien they would (when they examined the chest wound) have discovered that it was a suit and there was another skeleton underneath, don't you think so?

[Rivy]

So much hate for the movie in this thread !
I really (reallyreallyreally) liked it and the only real "plot holes" I could find (ie: those that can't be explained by "we don't know yet") can be attributed to stupid characters ("lol I can take my helmet off").

It just seems to me the Engineers were a lot bigger in Alien.

[Fish Of Doom]

prometheus =\= alien

it's the same universe but it's a different canon. things will NOT match 100%.

[Langy]

Exactly so; it's basically a reboot of the universe, but not the exact stories.

[Rivy]

Hey I'm not saying they should be larger because the one in the 1979 movie was, I'm just making an observation :P
I know that there may be many factors that made elements of both movies seem different, and I think they are mostly technical in nature, so I still think both films can perfectly fit in the exact same universe.

[ÜberJumper]

In Ridley Scott's future, Humans are fucking idiots.

[RVHW2]

In italy coming with 4 month of delay... i cant wait...i want see that film..

[LoCo]

So, Alex, the guy with the 'pups' that map everything, which he can then see, gets lost because it is fine that he is too stupid to read a map created by machines he seems to have intimate knowledge of?

Or the black goo doing a bazzillion different things just because?

The Engineer going after Shaw instead of taking one of the other ships?

The Engineer DNA seeding life, but only Humans are a match? (or better yet... the next one)

Humans matching (not simply having things in common... a complete match) the DNA of the Engineers?

etc.

To you these are not "plot holes", but rather attributed to "stupid characters"?

How did a stupid character cause all that DNA rubbish? Or the black goo inconsistencies?

[Rivy]

1- The guy was freaked out and the storm was causing interference. And he is an idiot too.
2- It was an unstable alien bioweapon, I fail to see why this is a plot hole. It mutated things it touches into hostile sonofabitches.
3- He was pissed. And he is an idiot too.
4- Why not ? After all humans are the dominant species on Earth. Maybe the life form that's closer to the Engineers is meant to be the most advanced.
5- Sci-fi screwup yeah :P

It's like people want to understand everything made by a super advanced species in human terms. Maybe some of their stuff is beyond our understanding, or maybe it's simply not explained in the movie but makes sense in the writer's mind for some undisclosed reason.

[JAL-18]

1. Dude he had perfect radio contact with the bridge (the centerpiece of which is a giant holographic map of the cave system) the entire time.

[LoCo]

1- The storm hadn't come up yet. There was perfect radio contact with the ship. Sure... he was freaked out, and wanted to get back to the ship. You start running wildly when you're freaked out... then you take a moment and look at the map attached to your arm which is not just a map, but shows your position, you friend's position, the position of the rest of the group, and... you know... is a map. You don't run around for hours while your friend complains that for some reason you have lost the ability to read a map. That's not just stupid (a five year old could have read that map) that's a plot hole. PLOT wanted them to get lost so they could die and the others wouldn't know about it. So PLOT made them magically get lost. Not character stupidity.

2- Yes, it was likely an unstable alien bioweapon. But look at the different things it does... Engineers (who match human DNA) get reduced to DNA strands. Worms get turned into predatory snakes that break people's arms and slide down their throats. Dead people get turned into zombies who are almost impervious to damage, defy gravity and go and wait outside spaceships all placid like until the ships open and the crew investigate. Live humans get slowly turned into Engineers (Or whatever the fuck was happening to Mr "I Take My Helmet Off Just Because There Is Breathable Air And Mope When We Find Proof Of Other Sentient Life") and sexed up females grow giant sperm that continues to grow - despite having no more nutrition - into giant Face Huggers which are actually a different species entirely and part of the life cycle of a species that has been to Earth long ago, but only just got created in the far future... So... no. It didn't just "mutate things it touches into hostile sonofabitches". Not only is it completely inconsistent but it defies logic.

3- For an Alien Badass who was hell bent on heading to Earth with his Alien Bio-Weapon so he could Kill All Humans, he sure gave up on his goal fast to go kill a chick that would have died anyway.

4- Why not? In order for Humans to come about through the seeding of DNA in that manner, they would need to run through the evolutionary gauntlet. Which means that it is not just unlikely, not just highly improbable, but actually impossible that Humans would come out looking rather similar to the Engineers while matching their DNA exactly. The original DNA would have mutated so many times, in so many ways, that the original DNA and the Final Product (IE: Humans) would not be similar at all. Not to mention that if you, for one second, think it would, then there would be a fuckton more inhabitants of Earth that looked human, were sentient, and closely matched the DNA. None of that whole intro made any kind of sense, and humans of the future would know that and be wondering what the fuck happened that somehow they match, exactly, the DNA of the Engineers. Hell, humans of today would know that it doesn't make sense.

It's got nothing to do with "human thinking is different to alien thinking!"

Lots of things make sense to writers in their own heads. That doesn't mean it's possible or that it makes actual sense.

These are plot holes. Holes in the plot. Things that don't make sense, even in the context of the world they are supposedly happening in. This isn't a "real world" vs "Aliens word" thing. It's not a "sufficiently advanced tech will look like magic" thing either. It's a "the plot of the movie has more holes than swiss cheese" thing.

Things that happen in this movie don't make sense in the real world, they don't make sense in the larger Aliens world, and they stubbornly refuse to make sense with the movie's own internal rules. A key part in making stories make sense is that they are at least internally consistent. This movie is not.

[Rivy]

1- I'd actually have to watch the movie again. They might not even had a map with them as far as I remember, maybe they left it with the others. But I'd need to watch it again.
2- There's no indication the thing the Engineer drinks in the prologue is the same thing (it is probably not even Earth and a completely different liquid). Also, the dude didn't suffocate in his own helmet before he put his face into the black ooze, so he was actually alive as he was being mutated into the same thing Shaw's boyfriend was turning. And if you have an issue with creatures growing despite 0 nutrition you have an issue with the whole Alien franchise. And the squid-thing was not a face-hugger, and its life cycle is mostly unknown as of right now (except for the part that squid + engineer = almost a classic alien).
3- Well the measly humans had a huge trick down their sleeves so it's not entirely impossible he wanted to make sure they were all dead before one more of his ships got blown to shit by another unforeseen event (like the life module or some other ship waiting around to crash into the second vessel the Engineer boards or something).
4- Why doesn't it make sense ? It's alien dna mutating ooze after all. It's like you guys wanted pure undiluted science from the (sci-fi) movie, with complete explanations to every single thing, and I think the writers left things out in purpose. I bet you guys hated the shit out of Lost too.

Apart from "this movie has better tech than Alien" I don't see how it doesn't fit in the same universe. I mean hard facts, not personal opinions.

[JAL-18]

I don't think anyone's main beef with the movie is that the tech is better than in Alien, just like the beef with the Star Wars prequels isn't that they're shinier than the originals.

I still think it's funny/disturbing that the crew just did not give a shit that Charlize Theron barbequed one of their dudes. I think that's the point where my wanting to like the movie was overcome by what giant fuckwits the characters were.

[CommissarRezail]

Well is this a bad time to bring up that dr. shaw was a bad mother? and the fact it felt like they abandon the scene for ages then came back to it.

[ÜberJumper]

I fully agree with LoCo.

The more I think about it, this movie is worse than Battlefield Earth, but at least it was prettier.

[Mac_Bug]

you cannot possibly top harriers

[ÜberJumper]

At least it was internally consistent! (from what I remember)

Prometheus was just so... bad!

[Octopus Rex]

This movie was not worse than Battlefield Earth. Battlefield was just fucking hilariously bad (and it wasn't trying to be that either), as opposed as "oh ffs" bad.

[LoCo]

Alex:

1- Perhaps you don't remember these things. I do. So your argument here is "I don't remember so I'm right and you are wrong!".

2- If it was a different goo in the intro, then why not make it red, green, blue, pink, white, yellow, brown, silver, ANY COLOUR THAT DOESN'T MATCH THE COLOUR OF THE GOO LATER ON, etc. I'll tell you why not... because it is the same substance. There is absolutely no other reason to make them look identical. Not to mention that later on in the movie it is put to the audience that "to create life, sometimes you have to destroy it", and that's one of the things that the black goo does. It creates as well as destroys life. The zombie guy didn't suffocate, you are right. Instead he had his face melted and a mutated snakeworm dived down his throat, at which point he stopped moving. Also, the Aliens from the Alien franchise do get nutrition. They get it from their hosts, and then get it from eating yummy marines/prisoners. The giant face-hugger that was taken from Shaw grew to at least 10 times it's original size... without any nutrients and after being removed prematurely from its mother. I'd have been fine with that if it just grew a tiny bit more, but that thing grew in size and strength at an astronomical rate without any nutrients while being partially aborted. Sorry, but I don't buy that. And finally... yes, we do know about its life cycle. Egg -> Face-Hugger -> Chestbuster -> Alien. Depending on the host the Face-Hugger finds, the final 'Alien' product is different. These are established rules of the world this all takes place in. What we get with Prometheus is apparently the very start of this process where the original face-hugger was actually mutated sperm. That's the only conclusion one can come to after the final product being a proto-Alien. Except that that doesn't make sense given the previous movies in the series. So... if you have an explanation that makes sense... I'm waiting to hear it.

3- Yeah, because the Engineer just magically knows where Shaw is. He just magically knows that she survived. And he just magically gets out of his crashed ship with ease, tracks her down, and sits there holding her against a wall while she is able to struggle long enough to open a hatch to bring the mutated sperm in to save her from him. Because, you know, he wanted to kill her and rush off to the mission he was already so rushed to complete that he ignored her before. So in his great haste he sat there holding her against a wall for a minute. Never mind that he ripped the head off David before so why the hell is it so hard for him to snap her neck? BECAUSE OF PLOT!!

4- It doesn't make sense because evolution does not work like that. We aren't just talking astronomical odds on it happening, we are talking impossibility. Even in normal Human DNA there are variations. If it makes sense to you, again, please let me know. But if it doesn't make sense to you, why are you trying to argue that it does?

As for me wanting hard science in a sci-fi movie... no. Again. All I'm looking for is internal consistency. The world of Star Wars has some rather wacky things in it, things that wouldn't make sense in the real world. But internally it is consistent. So all those things that wouldn't normally make sense, make sense within the context of the world they happen in. This movie, however, doesn't reach that.

Your final line seems to imply that what I'm stating here is 'personal opinion'. I'm not sure how you reached that unless it's because what I've been saying goes against your personal opinion so you think it must be my personal opinion. Let me ask you to clarify exactly where you think I'm expressing personal opinion rather than facts directly from the movie and its established world. And remember, while you don't remember some of this stuff from the movie, it's all there.

[Octopus Rex]

Regarding "life-cycle of the aliens" - I presumed when watching it that 1) Aliens as we know them didn't exist, and that 2) the mutagen created very unpredictable results. Sure, the results generally turned out the be evil as heck, but hey that's the movie part. That it created an Alien seemed, to me, to be luck/random/fortunate rather than by design. I did think that maybe it was planned for a second, then I realised that a genetic chain like that was, frankly, simply too preposterous even for this kind of movie. That this smashing together of genes comes with its own system of reproduction (face-huggers) in this iteration (it must do to continue to evolve, perhaps this is a proto-queen? I guess that much will get 'explained' next time) is a fair stretch for sure, but..... I dunno, I guess I could live with that. As for the zombie man.....erm, yeah, what was that all about.

PS - Star Wars is internally consistent? Hmm...

[LoCo]

Heh, SW was internally consistent I guess I should say.

The original movies were consistent within themselves, and part of the reason people don't like the latest three is that they break the consistency. That, Mr Binks and "NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!".

[CommissarRezail]

Pormethus wasn't bad, it was ok, it entertain made you think a little. It just that it seem to add scene for the fck of adding scenes, and leave those scense hanging in the air like balloon adrift in the sky. Like the guy turning zombie, no real explanation how he was exactly reanimated , why his blood wasn't acid, and how he remembered where home was.. Not to mention the engineer was just so mad that he forgot he had 100s of other ships laying around, in which he could had ran there and start again. However he chose to go woman beating instead.

I say average. In terms of making a new spin on the universe, say good start, as long they don't make shaw have anymore children.

[Kovac]

the Aliens from the Alien franchise do get nutrition. They get it from their hosts, and then get it from eating yummy marines/prisoners. The giant face-hugger that was taken from Shaw grew to at least 10 times it's original size... without any nutrients and after being removed prematurely from its mother. I'd have been fine with that if it just grew a tiny bit more, but that thing grew in size and strength at an astronomical rate without any nutrients while being partially aborted. Sorry, but I don't buy that.

I have never taken issue with the development of the xenomorph in Alien because it's a fantastic movie which made it easy to suspend the disbelief, but it does grow exponentially fast from a chestburster to a full grown adult in the first film. And it does this while running around the ship not eating anything.

[CommissarRezail]

I have a theory on that it simple. They absorb all the nutrients from a grown human, thus allowing them to grow up with out eating. Another theory they eat in-organic material, which may be possible.

[NastyNoodle]

There are dozens of ways the alien could have grown without requiring food, energy from light, radiation, the ship's heat. Plus, we never see any of the xenomorphs eat, ever.

Anyway, with regards to Prometheus, my experience was that after leaving the theatre, the more I thought about it, the more it pissed me off. Every single aspect of the plot was excruciatingly bad. The original script was so much better than this. Scott got what he paid for when he hired Mr. Lost to rewrite the script.

[Lor]

Regarding "life-cycle of the aliens" - I presumed when watching it that 1) Aliens as we know them didn't exist, and that 2) the mutagen created very unpredictable results

I was under the impression that Prometheus was set 30-50 years before Alien, but am sure I remember someone saying that the crashed ship in Alien being there for a long time and the pilot being practically fossilised. Given that the chamber he was in was surrounded by facehugger eggs, this would indicate (along with the stylised Alien on the carving) that Aliens as we know them did exist at the time of Prometheus, and had in fact been around for a hella long time already. This is a big part of what I found frustrating about the film. Was it supposed to be the origin of the Alien as we know it? If so please make it tie in with your existing lore/cannon or make it clear that you are rewriting history.

Sadly I agree with Noodle, getting Damien Lindelof involved in the script was a terrible terrible idea. It seemed to me that any time that they could give you a tiny piece of information that would add a huge amount of context to what you are seeing, they decided not to and just left the viewer guessing or deliberately in the dark as to what was actually going on. FFS Ridley Scott has gone on record in interviews as saying that he knows what was said by David to the Engineer. Would it have really hurt to subtitle this exchange? Every opportunity to muddy the waters and confuse things was gleefully jumped upon with great gusto leaving me disappointed and pissed off with a film that I really wanted to like. The cynic in me says they did it deliberately and plan on answering some of the questions in the next film. If Damien Lindeloff is involved, I'm having nothing to do with a sequel in any way shape or form as I know how good he is at answering questions from my experience with Lost.

Shame really, the film should have been great but ended up a steaming pile of gash instead and a massive waste of £18.

[Rukoth]

4- Why not? In order for Humans to come about through the seeding of DNA in that manner, they would need to run through the evolutionary gauntlet. Which means that it is not just unlikely, not just highly improbable, but actually impossible that Humans would come out looking rather similar to the Engineers while matching their DNA exactly. The original DNA would have mutated so many times, in so many ways, that the original DNA and the Final Product (IE: Humans) would not be similar at all. Not to mention that if you, for one second, think it would, then there would be a fuckton more inhabitants of Earth that looked human, were sentient, and closely matched the DNA. None of that whole intro made any kind of sense, and humans of the future would know that and be wondering what the fuck happened that somehow they match, exactly, the DNA of the Engineers. Hell, humans of today would know that it doesn't make sense.

First of all I will agree to the extent of that the film could of been much much better. But at the same time im going to take the same stance as others and say that you guys are reading way into the "black goo" too much. IT may have looked similar in the beginning of the movie, but we don't know it was the same thing. Also, we don't know how long those ships were sitting abandoned on that planet before these humans showed up. Maybe the black goo stuff breaks down over a long time into something much more dangerous and virulent then even the jockies wished for it. And I personally believe the stuff the jokcey drinks at the beginning of the movie was specifically engineered to do what it did to him and to give the result of perfect DNA match to the jockies. You guys that deny this are presuming that the jokcies had no hand in engineering the genes and the evolutionary path and even possibly showing up from time to time to make SURE the ancestors of humans with the most likely chance of becoming human made it to that point.


Also, regarding aliens eating. In the first movie, whos knows if they had rats on board or other vermin crawling through the ship? The chest burster could of been feasting on those for a little while before molting into a drone.

Also, regarding eating, In the video game Alien Vs Predator 2 you go through the entire alien cycle. You find a host to impregnate, you break out of the chest in a gruesome from the inside out look at it. And then your objective as a chest burster is to sneak around the human compound looking for a suitable meal so you can gestate into a drone(You end up finding a pet holding pen full of pet cats, and you hear a chestburster vs cat fight ensue followed by wet munching/crunching sounds). So, if the AVP2 game is canon, then it confirms aliens do eat. Also, to replenish health as a drone, you eat the meat of humans. That could of just been a game mechanic but anyways.

[NastyNoodle]

Now that I think about it, I've realised another major flaw in the film. I can remember two names from the film. Weyland, and Shaw. In Alien, I remember each crew member and their name very distinctly, Ripley, Dallas, Ash, Parker, Kane and Lambert. Oh and Brett. I'm going to shamlessly rip off Red Letter Media, and ask you guys if you can describe any of the Prometheus characters, without mentioning their job/position, or what they look like. Oh and stupid/christian aren't allowed either, just cos.

Rukoth: AVP is not canon. And we couldn't have had the same DNA as the Space Jocks anyway, they're like 8 foot tall albino dudes, who all look identical and have black eyes.

And to Lor: Damien Lindelof is one of those pretentious c***s who thinks that having the characters ask questions out loud, which are never answered, results in a 'deep' film. As a viewer, I don't expect to spoonfed answers, but I like to be able to believe that the script writers had a clue as to what the answers are, even if we don't. Instead, I think we have polar bear on desert island syndrome; stuff thrown into the plot for the sake of confusing the audience.

Not to mention all that stupid Christian/Creationism bull he added. "I still believe in Jesus even though every foundation Christianity is built upon has just been utterly demolished".

Oh, and I'm sorry, one of the world's leading biologists would not say "Ridiculous! that would disprove two centuries of Darwinism!" for two reasons. 1. No scientist would call evolution 'Darwinism', and 2. Abiogenesis (the space jocks creating life of earth) has nothing to do with evolution. Just the usual overused and unfounded trope of the 'arrogant scientist'.

(Oh and lol at noone asking about the thing that shaw aborted, and her sudden super strength, and basically murdering the scottish woman and faceless guy #12)

[Kirjava]

Good grief, are we still arguing about Prometheus?

Did Shaw really murder Scottish Woman and Hired Goon? And where was her super strength in evidence?