The right one is closer to the camera and so appears bigger than the other.
The right one is closer to the camera and so appears bigger than the other.
I have a blog, check it out :P - http://forthegloryofgorkandmork.blog...commander.html - brand new post 11/04/13
So there are a few (read very few) new images of the DS titan on the 'net. Considering that it costs virtually nothing to take hundreds of pictures anymore why only three of this monumental artistic effort but I appreciate all that I can find.
Geez can't someone take a decent picture of the back of this thing and try not to get a reflection in the image in the glass! Cripes how hard is that? Do I have to purchase a ticket to LA and take 'em myself??????????????
Anyway these are revealing pictures and expose new aspects of the work heretofore unseen and I am grateful for them in spite of my childish tantrum..................
OMG! How did we get from those unassembled, unpainted spare parts, to this incredible walking behemoth?!!! Few words can describe how awestruck I am! I have to ask though, did you not take a crap ton of photos yourself?
Bogmire that's not the same Titan... I think it's referal pics
"For thousands of years we've waited in the dark, but now is the time to awaken and take what is rightfully ours" Unknown Phaeron transcript intercepted by Inquisitor Gabriel Khain
The above finished Dave Smith titan is not the one I am building but the one I am copying. It is on display at the LA Battle Bunker GW store.
Rest assured I will document each step of this build and not rely on, "Then a miracle happened!" and show the finished model without the interminable interim steps.
Due to yet another stint in the hospital I needed to take a sabbatical in building this my attempted recreation but back again with new ideas and a firmer grasp on what is required I managed to reproduce that which is not actually documented in the spurious images posted of this beautiful titan. My main concern in not posting is I was afraid that the back panel of the engineering department looked too much like a "Police Call Box" from a 'Dr. Who' episode. Therefor I opted not to post until I had most of the complete back panel components in place. Bear in mind that these exterior components will be removable so that the interior components can be revealed and lock into place by friction and interlocking panels.
Its amazing what the camera reveals as opposed to visual perception. The following image is not up to my usual standards and shall have to be reworked before the final painting. Not having seen this until I took the picture today I was not aware of the lopsided work I believe once I get back into my groove again I can offer better work..............
i see leman russ hatches! the old style ones that no-one ever uses XD
Yeah I've got tons of obsolete bitz well a couple of pounds at least...............
I tried a different stance for these images to see how the joints would bear the weight. The upper torso weighs in at 880 grams/31 ounces/1.94 pounds without the guns now and the legs are bearing the weight with no problem. I may not need the friction devices I had planned for holding the position. OF course the upper torso may be closer to eight pounds before I am finished.
Applied secondary armour plating to the back removable panel today. I made some subtle changes in the back pack area to make it more aesthetically appealing bumping out the side panel layers about 2.5 mm.
The whole back panel including the 'Dr Who police call box panel' interlock together and are as yet held in place by only friction but when completed will have rare earth magnets to keep them tight to the frame.
Here's a lesson boys and girls; don't be afraid to rebuild that which is unsatisfactory. without a guide other than rather spurious images and incomplete documentation I have decided that the current iteration is less than satisfactory and am employing efforts to rectify said anomalies. Therefore I have amended slight indiscretions for the great good of the overall project.........
Case in point; the discrepancy in the overall back panels of the current work with that of the original. Due to a failure on my part to discern perspective errors I made definite and grievous mistakes.
Fortunately the errors can be corrected without redefining the internal structure of the said project but at the expense of a few square centimeters of styrene I can ameliorate the current structure into a more reasonable facsimile.
Note in the upper right the replacement seam on the center back as opposed to the mirror site on the left. A quarter inch seems to make all the diference.
Someone with the sobriquet 'lYeVlTkWvU' has hy-jacked this thread with spam and is cluttering my email with false response notifications. Can this be corrected please?
After taking a week off to refresh myself I woke yesterday morning with a solution to a problem that has vexed me since I started this project. Namely the door and the ladder to nowhere. I have always thought the door was a personnel portal when the titan was docked in the hangar for maintenance and maybe it served a secondary function as an escape hatch in battle but the ladder always looked ridiculous and wasn't needed. Scratch one ladder.
The other big problem was the placement of the door on the epic and DS model which seems too high for convenient exit. I felt that the logical place to have it was for the command deck people. The waist block has a hatch at the bottom and engineering exits through the catwalks under the carapace. That leaves the command deck and the reactor/void generator decks to vacate. Naturally descending on a ladder is too slow so in the vestibular immediate proximity of the door will be descent bungees for rapid evacuation.
One can assume when the titan is docked the door provides egress for the crew much as the gantry catwalk for the lamented Space Shuttle missions.
I did an major revamping of the command deck to accommodate this door and passage and there was sufficient room under the carapace for the vestibule.
Problem solved and in a logical (TMM) manner; Whew!
Regarding the cooling modules on the stern panel they are just tacked in place so I can get a feel for how they will look. They're not permanently mounted.
Naturally there will be a lot of piping and mysterious components galore to 'tech up' the exterior.
May I ask - is the door hinged, so that you can open and close it?
One lord we serve, forever may he reign.
Co-developer of Homeworld:@
BA, you continue to disgust... err... amaze me! Looks better and better with every passing day. I'll be honest that I'm more and more jazzed about the interior spaces seeing all of the progress at the back.
Me - Dude! Don't eat that (habanero beef jerky), it's friggin' hot as f*ck!!!
Tim - Oh, it's not baaaaa...aaaaa....aaaa.....aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! It's like the devil p*ssed in my mouth!!!
Sorry to see I have that effect but since I regard this thread as a building tutorial I cannot help but reiterate anything that is unclear on how I built this thing I would be more than pleased to expound on. (Blackadders in the sauce again..........)
Temporarily indisposed for the past week or so but managed to pull an all-nighter yesterday and brought this baby into a new level of detail. I had some trouble reconciling the trim strips on the edge of the seam between the upper and lower panels of the carapace but the solution appears satisfactory at least in the images.
Its strange that what is see with the naked (Ha, he said naked.) eye is different than what is displayed in a camera image. I have a tendency to elongate images top to bottom when viewing a picture and when I see them in an photograph the perspective/proportion changes. I don't have that problem with TV images and broadcasts on plasma screens bother me greatly when presented in the wrong aspect ratio. Go figure!
Anywho here is the latest run of images complete with inroads into the shoulder carapace magazines starting to be encased. I figure since the Warlord employs both energy and projectile weapons that the area directly above the arms (sic) is devoted to storing the projectile rounds. No point in displaying that as yet but it does logically indicate future reworking.
Purists may note that I changed a lot in the detail of the rear projection to suit my aesthetic sensibilities but since these vehicles are subjective to the FW, 'many worlds/many interpretations' I feel that Lucius Warlord Titans in a class have variations in that class depending on the 'Forge World' planet of origin. Plus I'm not going to buy a bunch of bitz just to copy the DS original.
There is almost assuredly an easier way to manufacture these components but my natural propensity for doing things the hardest way imaginable forced me to utilize the following method.
The goal is to have trunnion mounted capable of elevation rather than traverse turrets to mount the turbo lasers.
First I made the barrel shaped mounts using the method described below. I started with 1/2 inch PVC tubing which for some reason actually has a bore of about 3/4 inch. Now I need a veneer of styrene so I can glue detail to the surface and I need an axle made of styrene to permanently glue the end caps and detail to the axles and I need styrene trunnion receptacles to permanently glue to the upper carapace housing.
All these items must be the same size within a minor fraction of a millimeter i.e. about a hundredths of an inch or the discrepancy will be noticeable.
First I wrapped thins strips of styrene 0.250 inch wide around the center axles wrapping and gluing until the layers made a snug fit in the PVC gun mounts. Making sure the axles were 0.250 inches longer than the mount.
Then I wrapped 0.125 inch strips around the protruding ends of the axles installed in the PVC mounts so when completed there was two styrene discs on either end or the PVC tubes with a 0.5 inch tube running thru the center.
Next I wrapped 0.10 sheet styrene around the PVC to obtain a styrene cover to glue on subsequent detail.
This image left to right demonstrate the steps to make the trunnion mounts for attaching the elevation turrets to the carapace and they are build up in much the same manner as the above discription
Here are the trunnion mounts afixed to the carapace and the inboard reinforcement is glued in place to provide strength when the laser mounts are moved.
This side show the rough laser mount in the carapace recess ready to be reinforced.
Wow its really hard to attach an image; unfortunately my image loader is malfunctioning.
I have new images of the current work and I'll try to link with images on another forum
I hope these images are visible and once my image host is back in business I'll replace these links. Let me know if the images are visible.
They look really good man.
A wise ass once told me "stupidity is contagious"
"Slow is Steady, Steady is Fast, Fast is good"
My Nurgle Space Marine blogs
Pictures are fine, awesome stuff have been keeping tabs on this, detail is excellent
In a headlong career of activity ( For me that is. ) I added significantly to the basic structure and the finer detail this week and I thought before I got too far I should post an update. I'm very glad to relate that the void generator housing have a goodly start and the carapace magazine covers (BTW they are removable to access to main weapon armatures) are fitted with Leman Russ hatches and a bit of detail as well.
The center cover and inner walls of the generator housings are removable to view the interior detail of the reactor compartment.
The back view reveals the complete detailing of the left and right upper carapace.
First a question.
In the first attached image can anyone identified the outlined bitz?
I have had a chance to work on this model more than usual being laid up with a virus for the past three days.
As the poet said, It's an ill wind..........................
Okay here's the deal sure I could scratch the entire Warlord (witness the first attached image) but even the legendary Dave Smith employed shortcuts; I mean if I have the bitz why not use them. Granted I'm not going to plunk down $50 bucks just to get a fan but since my son already had a CoD kit why not use the segments for something more than architecture.either way, more scratching less using easy bits doing!
Below are two of the four void generators (I'm only building two as the rest are hidden...........
Note all the detail is not attached but they did consume a fair portion of my allotted construction time.
I mean the goal is to finish this Titan in your lifetime more important in my lifetime your pardon if I can come across quite egocentric.
On the 'identify the bits' post, my immediate responce was "aren't they from the Imperial buildings?", followed by "Isn't that bit in the middle from the back of a Predator hatch?". I'm afraid I don't know exactly where thay may be from though.
This is ambitious beyond anything I'd ever dream of making, good show sir!
There are 2 rules to being a success in life:
1. Never give out all the information.
First of all it's a tribute to Dave Smith that the amount of detail he incorporated in his titan is astounding. Only one who has studied his images Ad nauseam can appreciate the scope of this monumental project
and I am only copying. Blazing the original trail would have been quite daunting.
According tho the images below my titan will stand 27 inches 68.6 cm with the knees locked or about 26 inches 66.0 cm when in stride which approximates Mr Smith's work so there is not much discrepancy there.
My titans overall appearance as it is right now appears a tad on the thin side but the armour has yet to be bulked out and the arms armament hasn't been properly installed so when fully fleshed out I think there is probably cause for twinitization.
From a low angle the figure is quite imposing..................
I had some brass etched mesh left over from Lucie and it proved just enough for the void generator housing cooling apparatuses.
And the surface clutter is progressing nicely.
More to follow
Started in on making the hood yesterday with mixed results. I couldn't decide whether the hood should tilt down or project straight out so I compromised and tilted it down about 2° down which seems okay.
I took a few images with all the hull pieces temporarily in place to get an overall perspective on where I stand and all appears okay so I shall continue with the hood armour and glyphs.
Yeah I know theres a lot of images of virtually the same thing; tedious I know but the thing had to be done. Okay well deserved Martini in hand the final installation of this small and labor intense area is at last relatively complete except for the magnets that close the gaps and a bit of eye candy to dress out the detail.
This project will be judged by what meets the immediate eye and that is by the optimum point of view the top of the model at a 30° to 45° angle ergo the top so a lot of attention has to be paid to this area:
So here hopefully is the last dedicated posted to this area.
Next the hood.
The head being the Grand Finale I personally cannot wait.....
neither can I.
Your work is really bafffling. Yes, triple "f". Bafffling. The amount of work hours it must have taken, using techniques and skill I can only fathom....
Thanks for the offer I have downloaded the names of all the British warships from the last 6 centuries and whom among us can doubt the British have the coolest names for their warships and translated them into Latin (Google Translate) and come up with a few that might fill the bill meanwhile a question on the playability of this construct has arisen, namely:
I guess I should know this but it's a toss up of studying quantum physics and WH40k and fool that I am I opted for QP. Now that you are appreciably dazzled let me state that I am a mere tyro at QP as well of having none of the math credentials to even basically appreciate the subtleties of the Quantum theory but I have spent an inordinate amount of time trying to comprehend recent developments. Fortunately reading these events doesn't preclude my working contiguously on the detail of my project to duplicate the hood bling imaged below:Originally Posted by Blackadder
so here is the days run of labor namely the aquila insignia on the hood, I started with a google search for an apropos image
and edited it on my editor to fit the model. Tracing the result onto 0.010" styrene
I cut out the extremely tiny components and glued them to a 0.010" substrate which is where I am at the moment
taking a Martini break and tracking 'Sandy'.
Okay boys and girls I'm about to impart the secret of Blackadder's millions. There's gold in them thar pieces of trash! It's commonly known that Blackadder is heavily into recycling. My old microwave has run its course to the extent that the floor of the chamber has rusted out and when I turn it on the under cabinet fluorescent lights glow so time to replace the old GE with a new one but wait. The door has this fantastic perforated shield panel! I don't know if you have priced this material in the hobby stores but it runs about $6 to 8 bucks for a few square inches and here's about a square foot about to be relegated to the curb......
Well I'm not about to toss $30 to 40 bucks down the crapper so I whips off the door and have enough vents to furnish a lifetime of 'scratching'.
Another helpful hint from EB AKA Heloise
Time to get working on some catwalks!
"INNOCENCE PROVES NOTHING"
"Better crippled in body, than corrupt in mind."
A bit of an update on my recycling foray; there are some concerns as to the advisability of employing a microwave door for scratch bitz namely concerns about residual radiation lurking in the door!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never stand near an operating microwave considering the average microwave oven is manufactured in the same country that is putting lead and mercury in our children's toys and asbestos and formaldehyde in our sheetrock not to mention they cannot seem to manufacture a decent paper clip or a pencil with an eraser that doesn't leave a trail of dirty rubber when rubbing out the graphite line but I digress;
A standard microwave door window has a millimeter thick steel perforated grill heavily enameled with black paint (radiation absorbing, I wonder?) sandwiched between two sheets of clear plastic about 0.25 mm thick each. Microwaves themselves are energetic photons that are non-ionizing.
Non-ionizing radiation is very different than the dangerous ionizing radiation and are in the same family of EM waves as television and radio broadcasting. Because of the lower frequencies and reduced energy, it does not have the same damaging and cumulative properties as ionizing radiation. Microwave radiation (at 2450 MHz) is non-ionizing, and in sufficient intensity simply cause the molecules of water in the food to flip polarity rapidly, thereby causing friction, which produces the heat that cooks the food. you stand in much more danger using your cell phone than any residual radiation from handling that panel.
So... umm... where does that leave you with the Warlord?
Pardon my excursion into the darker sides of scratching but I find it useful to impart these tidbits to the general knowledge of my fellow scratchers in hopes that they may reciprocate............
Pretty pitiful update this week but my excuse is that I had to gut the ground floor kitchen, bath and family room after Sandy saw fit to deluge my wife's abode with 2/3 meter of storm surge seawater.
Fortunately all my precious worldly goods were ensconced safely twenty miles inland including the subject of this thread.
You will note that after I have successful refurbished my ex's domicile I shall have no more excuses to put off building the head/cockpit.
So what is this one Titan getting called? You have a name for it so far? Playing Space Marine on my Xbox these days and see that one´s called Invictus. I even got a little ride with it.
I'm leaning towards, Metuant Nobis (Let them fear us) since Invictus is taken.
I have some plans for the fusion reactor which will be mounted in the chamber above the command deck. The soccer ball style is the one I am leaning towards. And I have already purchased the fiber optic LEDS for the lighting but those go in last as I have to make the consoles first.Have you given any thoughts regarding power plant and the possibility to open up to look at that. Possibly some interior "real" lighting effects. Malignant red lights pouring out from the eyes, combat lights glowing red in the engineering.
This one is a kind of a joke but the lighting is interesting
Whew, I just spent two hours updating all the forums I subscribe to and taking pictures of the recent build below plus now hopefully rendering a bit of interesting rapartee to keep my noble readers stimulated.
There is a lot of concern that I shall be neglecting the Warlord now that the Blackadder has a new bauble to attract his fickle attention but the Warlord is the real apple of my eye and the latest update follows:
Modular construction is the best way to go on a model this big as it affords you a reasonable size to work on rather than taking up the whole of the workspace with extraneous equipage.
Below are the floor and keel of the cockpit and the movable neck plug in module shown in the head down and head up position.
The tab on the floor and the triangular tabs on the neck will be the base for the side to side neck movement and the rectangular plug-in will house the egress corridor to the main command deck hopefully with apropos detail should I live long enough to complete this project. Whew again!
Ha bet you thought I'd forgotten about this. Truth is I've been repairing plumbing and wiring and installing a new water heater and hadn't much time for building but that's behind me for a couple of days so back to the cockpit design. Actually I had time to reflect how to proceed with this and have come up with a way to build a hollow flight deck.
Seen below compared to Lucie's cockpit the Warlord's is about three times larger which compares well as the Warlord is three times taller than the Warhound.
Here you see the footing for the interior floor and the inner edge of the prominent overbite of the head armour.
as seen in this image of the original.
I haven't a clue what I am doing guessing at angles and sizes this head construct should prove interesting. It's much the same way I built the arms for Lucie so I can only that lightning does strike twice in the same place or in this case three times.
Ya know when I was a kid there was a show on TV, "Jon Gnagy's 'Learn to Draw'." I used to watch that show religiously. I had the Jon Gnagy book, pencils, eraser, sketchpad, charcoal,.... you name it I had it. That SOB would start drawing some forest scene or Steam engine at the station and I was furiously following along trying to do everything that bast---d did and he'd be put the frame on his work and my jaw was on the floor. You just couldn't keep up with him.
I thought it might be fun for you to see how the Blackadder works so I'm going to be taking pictures step by step of this head assembly so you can see that I haven't the vaguest idea what I am going to do next. I have no mechanical drawings, templates, or sketches to go by except for the G--D----- images DS posted. A lot of people ask for templates and I feel bad that I can't provide them because there aren't any, it's all in my head so we can both see how this cockpit module progresses for better or worse because it could be a total fiasco..............
I Have to admit the head is coming along swimmingly The relative size seems good and the movement range seems adequate. also most of the damage to Lucie has been repaired; just remounting the guns with magnets to go.
I had Lucie pose with the new titan for a size comparison and she is dwarfed by the Warlord; I may have to make a Reaver just to take up the gap
Here we have the Warlord looking right,
Looking left and
looking down to the right a bit unnerving from this angle thank the Emperor she's not armed.
I have to reposition the chest/neck armour a bit as the head armour won't clear when it's installed.
I neglected to mention the telescoping feature of the neck module prompting some to comment that the neck was too short. I prefer to rationalize that the neck in full extension is scout mode and retracted is battle mode.
Thats my story take it or leave it
That's the ticket Blackadder blind them with footwork..........
Dude I'm tell'n ya women have a lot of goodies that they keep from us and I'm not talk'n 'bout the obvious but chances are your ol' lady has a spatter shield that she uses when she fries up those 'burgers and that is just scream'n to be replaced. If its like my old lady there are rents in it and its all wrinkled (I'm talk'n 'bout the splatter shield now.....) and its time for a new one (Still talk'n 'bout the splatter shield). Imagine the joy on yer spouse's mug when you give her a new one for Christmas and what better way to help the environment than to recycle the old one in your scratch projects......
Here is mine as new grills for the Warlord cockpit intakes or whathaveyou.
Its gonna be a Merry Christmas at the Blackadder household believe me or I'm an Orc's Grandpa.............
Yeah the BA has a bag on.
But I'm dead serious about the Christmas present......................
Last edited by Blackadder; 22nd Nov 12 at 2:57 AM.
Awesome stuff here; your work is most inspiring
One again my vain attempt at humor has fallen flat.
Hopefully the results of last night reverie will not be perceived likewise.
This morning I cut the lozenge shaped vents that define the screens and before I glue on the right side I'm taking a picture that you might know how it was accomplished.
The radius of the side curve where it wraps around the snout seems almost perfect; about a quarter of a millimeter too big on the bottom but not enough to quibble over if the other side matches.
Most of these vents will be covered with the face armour but if you peer really hard under that armour you will see that the whole vent opening is there.
Crazy I know but I need the practice.
The lozenge shaped vents came out fairly decent but not as well crafted as Mr Smith's. I wonder how he made his? I made mine with a Martini in hand which I wouldn't recommend to would be modelers handling razor sharp knives and the like and there seems to be a slackening of quality.
But they should suffice for this titan.
The pencil scribed lines are for the face shield which I shall attempt next. This shield gives the head the anthropomorphic quality from which the upper lip and cockpit windshield detracts.
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