White Scars Mod (heirs of Jagatay Khan) for SS

[Count Bagatur]

White Scars Mod

Hello all. I would like to introduce for you a new modification of my collection that adds to the game the legendary Order of the White Scars, heirs of Primarch Jagatay Khan. The modification if for any versions of Soulstorm.

Changelog
1.Added New race and new Order of Space Marines - White Scars.
2.New balance, new gameplay!
3.Added many new units
4.New models, skins and textures
5.new maps by Sataman
6.New FX
7.Some new features for other races
8.Some presents for DoW-gamers
9.New powerful AI
10.New game modes
11.New campaign

Video:



screenshots:









Moddb mod thread:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/white-scars

Download link campaign version 1.1:
http://www.4shared.com/rar/G_ivq9CJ/...sion_camp.html

Download link separate race version beta
http://www.moddb.com/mods/white-scar...e-race-version

Mod team:

Count Bagatur - team boss (great khan ), skinner, coder, rebalancer, icon-editor
Sataman - mapper, fx-editor
Deathwatch - modeller, skinner
Stanic - beta-tester, modeller, OE, texturer
Gambit - play-tester, advisor, menu-editor, coder
IronWarrior42 - our friend, modeller, coder, skinner (thanks to IW42 for his participation and assistance with our team)
boothy_p - modeller, texturer
knezekj - modeller, OE, texturer, coder
xhunkx - tester
thudo - voice-editor
Deathteam15 - community manager
I_Chample - AI coder

Yours faithfully Alexander

Credits:
Special Thanks to Firestorm over Kronus mod team for their models and textures.
Special Thanks to Corsix Mod Studio
Thanks to Perun Warhounds Team for good advices and best regards (and imagination)
Thanks to Zany Reaper for biker models
Thanks to Codex Mod team (my brothers and friends)
Thanks to I_Chample my brother and good friend

[Gambit]

Good work man!!

A couple of things:
- Does your mod conform to white scars GW codex?

- Have a look here: http://forums.revora.net/topic/77150...e-script-list/
(I just wanted to inform you about the existence of the scripts, and that is all )



Edit: Friend I ALWAYS follow your mods and I like your spirit. Give me some time to have fun with your White Scars endeavour, and I will soon post my comments/opinions!

P.S.: Keep on you Excellent work man! WE NEED people like you and projects like yours in the DOW community!!!

[Count Bagatur]

Gambit, thank you very much for you good opinion about my mods. But my mods are not qualitative now. I am not professional as Cylarne, JONES1979, Iron Warrior or Horusheretic. I am only studies modding.

I do not hear about another development of White Scars mod, but i wish best successes to the other team.

[Gambit]

I think your skills are good enough.
And your projects very interesting

[Count Bagatur]

It will be good to have a model Riders Chogoris in my mod. But i have no time now to insert it =)
I am working with Dawn of Mars

[Sataman]

I'll send you the minimap files today

Mod is looking very good,keep it up

[Count Bagatur]

I like your map, Sataman. Its very good. White Scars likes your work =)

[Gambit]

OK man, I tested and played with the White Scars.
It needs some refinement here and there, but it is not bad at all - good work!!!!
I like it a lot, and given the fact that it is the first version, it looks very promising.

Please, tell me you will keep on working in this!!!!!

Personal Opinion: If you focus into one or two projects, I am sure you will achieve marvels! For one, your White Scars is a very interesting approach...

Minor playtesting feedback about White Scars:
1] The max Caps are not 20/20, and the starting units are not just the builders... Since this is a race MOD, I would very much like to include/combine it, so I would like to see it conform to standard Relic race template...
2] The scouts have a pink icon when you make a weapon upgrade.
3] I do not understand why there are so many librarians... It this codex-specific ? (Sorry man, I know little about the White Scars)
4] I know that it is WIP and I am no AI expert, but I noticed that the AI deployed mostly scouts. Please see to it.
5] For regular scouts, you could use the new models made by the POK/FOK team.


OVERALL VERDICT

Way to go Count Bagatur!!!!!

[Count Bagatur]

I do not understand why there are so many librarians... It this codex-specific ? (Sorry man, I know little about the White Scars

There are many priests. Chogoris is wild planet and there are many religions and cults. But main - is God-Emperor`s cult.

Please, tell me you will keep on working in this!!!!!

Oh yes. But i think new version will be, after i finished Dawn of Mars. =)

[Sataman]

Here is the minimap update:
http://www.2shared.com/complete/97X5...ogoris_mm.html

[IronWarrior42]

You should have mentioned you were working on a White Scars mod, i've got a virtually complete army code for them. If you need any coding help let me know.

[Count Bagatur]

Iron Warrior, ok. I let you know. Lets speak about it in skype or icq in days. Thank you again

[Gambit]

@IronWarrior42 and @CountBagatur: If you need any playtesting assistance, I am here. I consider myself a relatively good playtester.

[Count Bagatur]

Gambit, ok) you are the play-tester. Welcome to team!

[Gambit]

Very good!!! Glad to be in your team friend.
Awaiting orders - I am here whenever you need my services.

@CountBagadur: Alex, why not COMPLETELY teaming up with Iron Warrior in this? The DoC mod is of MEGALITHIC proportions, and I am sure IW42 needs skilful members like you to speed up his endeavour. I think we could help him in his HUGE task. Your coding skills are excellent and I think my playtesting experience is good (thanks to Thud and Cylarne ).
We can begin with White Scars and see how it goes.... What do you think man?

@IronWarrior42: Brother, in case our friend CountBagadur agrees, would you trust the White Scars to us? More to this, I am more than wishing to see the DoC MOD "complete", so I am more than willing to help. I was reluctant to ask because I am very good when focusing, AWFUL otherwise. And there are TOO MANY RACES available (Yeahh!!!!) and I was afraid I would not be up to the task!!!! I have already failed one TOP member of the community with my inconsistency, and I didn't like to repeat such a mistake.
But now that Alexander has a beta on White Scars, I say we can all three cooperate and see how it goes with White Scars being our "testing pad"...
What do you think?

[Count Bagatur]

I sent PM to Iron Warrior. If he will agree to help our mod, he will be in our team =)

Now i go to make another mod for Rome Total War =)
I am modder for Total War games too =)

[Gambit]

Very good Alex. Let us see.....

[Count Bagatur]

Gambit, ok) i will be in this thread tomorrow.
another screen of mod, by the way

[Gambit]

OK man, I will be here!

Alex, I will also ask Thud what is the case with the Whit Scars mod he is in charge, to see if this will blossom to something even bigger!

[Count Bagatur]

Oh, i know Thudmeiser. He is good coder and my friend. He let me take his AI from one of my mini-mods year ago

also i am thinking about superweapon of White Scars....

[Gambit]

also i am thinking about superweapon of White Scars....

Ahem... I like this, but shouldn't we stick to regular Relic race templates?

[Count Bagatur]

shouldn't we stick to regular Relic race templates?

I mean superweapon like a Orbital Bombardment, Air Caste Strike and etc.
I think to make superskill of lord-commander - "Plasma Cannon' (it will like a effect of Air Caste strike tau)

[thudmeizer]

Wow long time since I saw a White Scars mod.. Croax had one and some models but never moved forward.. but..

We have all White Scar units scripted AND voiced long done.. ALL OF EM.. even both Khans (Chapter Master and the missing Primarch)! We were VERY thorough with all SM/CSM Chapters, Imperial Regiments, and Xenos factions so White Scars was no exception.

One question: WHERE ARE ALL THE BIKES? Scout/Sergeant, Marine/Sergeant, and Commander bikes? Yeah I imagine thats gonna be tough as Mudflaps' are the only in-game useable SM bike models.

Anyway, Croax had the original White Scars mod, not me. I just got every since White Scar unit voiced.

[Gambit]

Count Bagatur said:

I mean superweapon like a Orbital Bombardment, Air Caste Strike and etc.
I think to make superskill of lord-commander - "Plasma Cannon' (it will like a effect of Air Caste strike tau)

OOooppss!! Sorry man, I misunderstood! It is an Excellent idea! (for a moment I was like Heheh!)

By the way, I will start collecting White Scar CODEX info from the web so that we will be as consistent to "White Scars" theme and fluff as possible.

Alex, let me be in charge of the .ucs and the fluff as well!!!! I think I am good at it!



@ Thud: Ok, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!! Period.

[thudmeizer]

All good, brotha...

[Count Bagatur]

Alex, let me be in charge of the .ucs and the fluff as well!!!! I think I am good at it!

Yes sir!

[Lleman]

By the way, I will start collecting White Scar CODEX info from the web so that we will be as consistent to "White Scars" theme and fluff as possible.

Wouldn't it have been better to do that before? Just saying...

[Gambit]

Wouldn't it have been better to do that before? Just saying...

Of course. OBVIOUSLY!!
I have the strong belief that Count Bagatur will COMPLETELY re-vamp his current White Scars approach, plus we will see what brother Iron Warrior will decide on this...
Man, there are NO BIKES!!!! IT IS OBVIOUS that this version of white scars is a BASE.
I assure you - if everything goes by the numbers - the next public beta will be a VERY different project...

Remember, our co-operation is still forming here, so we have not achieved the necessary ..."accord".

Edit: My intention is to re-design the race with Count Bagatur - and with the "blessings" of IW.

[Croaxleigh]

Croax had one and some models but never moved forward

That actually wasn't my mod. Someone else was trying to start it and I agreed to help after various people piled on and said that he shouldn't do it, etc.; I helped build a basic race template and some interesting coding points, then a few days later the individual basically pulled a 180 and said that he wanted to do other things because one person complained about a proof-of-concept video. I cut all ties with the project, and it faded away eventually.

I've still got the various bits that I did for the mod and thought about working on it as a mod of my own from time to time, but White Scars didn't interest me as much as my core projects so I never did anything with it. If I was still doing much in the way of modding it'd still fall a little ways down my pipeline since I'm still more interested in AdMech, Kroot, Lost and the Damned and Steel Confessors.

[Gambit]

@Croaxleigh: Friend, our "coalition" and co-operation is just forming here. I am very optimistic in this, but I cannot be sure that it will eventually blossom - but I really hope so!
If it eventually proves to be viable and consistent, would you like to share your current White Scars designs with us?
(I am referring to this: "....I helped build a basic race template and some interesting coding points..." and this: "...I've still got the various bits that I did for the mod...")

Note: We are still defining our relations, and trying to put our skills under a common goal.
Please, do not pass strict judgement on us...

[IronWarrior42]

Emails recieved guys; all very plausible. Give me a day to sort out the details; sorry for the slow response, buried in coding atm .

[Gambit]

@IronWarrior42: Excellent man! I hope, we all share similar scopes here and everything will turn up OK.
We will surely then lighten (albeit slightly) your burden!

[Count Bagatur]

Hi all again! Iam happy, we are working together! Thanks all! )))) Dear IronWarrior, Croaxleigh and Thudmeiser, can i add you to our WS mod team?

[Gambit]

Alex, we need to set the order of things first... Let us not bother the guys, unless we have something solid in our hands.

I STRONGLY believe we need to start from re-designing the race template. Do you agree? (and then, adjust your current work to it.)

About AI and SCAR do not worry... Thudo and Chiu will help us, BUT THEY MUST FIRST be given a quality mod!!!! We do NOT want to bother them now man!
Let us "borrow" the assets from Iron Warrior (and his OK of course) - and possibly the design ideas and code from Croaxleigh. We can ask their contribution later if needed.... not now. Please, trust me in this.
LET'S START ONLY THE TWO OF US....!

General:
White Scars are mainly RAIDERS, so without Bikes .... NO white Scars!
Moreover, they depend on speed so some things must be considered as well: Faster drop-pod deep strikes, NO defensive structures, biked commanders etc.

Here is what I wave in mind we should consider:
0] The special rules and code (abilities, weapons, SCAR, models, etc.), Specifically and Exclusively designed for White Scars.
1] Squads/troops and their upgrades.
2] Commanders and their upgrades in each tier.
3] Buildings and builders.
4] Relic unit(s)
5] Named Commanders (like Kor'sarro Khan or even Jubal Khan).

Please, tell me what you think, and share your opinions with us to make sure that we can cooperate constructively...
Question: Do I make myself clear? I meal I like complex English syntax, but you may not like it. Please just say it and I will not write as a "show-off"!!

P.S.: I think we NEED to have close betas, and NOT open ones....

[Count Bagatur]

Here is what I wave in mind we should consider:
0] The special rules and code (abilities, weapons, SCAR, models, etc.), Specifically and Exclusively designed for White Scars.
1] Squads/troops and their upgrades.
2] Commanders and their upgrades in each tier.
3] Buildings and builders.
4] Relic unit(s)
5] Named Commanders (like Kor'sarro Khan or even Jubal Khan).

1.Its done 50%
2.its done
3.its done 90% (we must change names of buildings and icons)
4.I am thinking about relic units
5.Commanders are done. I must change names

I think to borrow Bikers Squad from the mod of Zany Reaper. But without his agreement i can`t do it.

Also, i agree, Gambit; lets speak about development on neutral territory for example in PM

[Gambit]

Excellent Alex!!!!
I am ready to see/test/discuss your next version!!!!

Bikes: Why don't we ask IronWarrior? I happen to have his previous version of DoC, and Bikes were IN!!!
Man, let's ask IW42 for this, no need to go to others when we are near the SOURCE!

Also, i agree, Gambit; lets speak about development on neutral territory for example in PM

And why not a private discussion in ModDB?
PMs are ok, but not that fast....

[Count Bagatur]

Ok Paul. I will send to IW42 Pm about bikers. Its good idea =)

http://www.moddb.com/members/countbagaturr
this is my page on moddb) please write me PM there...

http://www.moddb.com/mods/white-scars
page of our mod =)

[Gambit]

Alex, please check your private messages in ModDB (I started a private chat there)

[Count Bagatur]

Ok, i read it sir. All is ok!)

[Croaxleigh]

@Croaxleigh: Friend, our "coalition" and co-operation is just forming here. I am very optimistic in this, but I cannot be sure that it will eventually blossom - but I really hope so!
If it eventually proves to be viable and consistent, would you like to share your current White Scars designs with us?
(I am referring to this: "....I helped build a basic race template and some interesting coding points..." and this: "...I've still got the various bits that I did for the mod...")

Note: We are still defining our relations, and trying to put our skills under a common goal.
Please, do not pass strict judgement on us...

In all honesty, I'd prefer not to be involved. Partially because some of the code came from someone else who had authorized me to use it for Depth of Heresy and/or that specific White Scars project; I wouldn't feel right about passing on things containing his work without his explicit permission, and we haven't talked in years. I also wouldn't like to get in touch with an old friend and have my first words be "Hey, you remember that code you did a few years back? Mind if I give it to somebody else that you don't know?"

[Gambit]

@Croaxleigh: Perfectly clear and decent man!
Just one question: Would you care to share with us your race design? NO CODE, only unit choices and possible upgrades. ALL, by NAME alone...
I mean, since it is no code or anything, we would gladly "consult" your template to optimize our current tree of squads/upgrades....

We are trying to "gather" all the help we can get (from design to assets) so that white scars to be a quality race...

In any case, thanks for your interest!

[Gambit]

OK guys, I have some GOOD news and Some slightly bad news....

-"Bad news" is the fact that Alex (Count Bagatur and lead coder of the White Scars MOD) is gonna be absent for some time (a couple of days I persume)....

-"GOOD news" is that Iron Warrior (besides being an excellent guys to converse with - among other "high quality" things), has given us permission and access to his current built of the White Scars Race. Soon we will have in our hands his perspective of White Scars and hopefully we will redesign it from scratch.

@ Count Bagatur: Alex, Iron Warrior is a very busy creating his DoC masterpiece, and he cannot divert from it. Currently it has fallen ONLY to us to deal with the task. Let us not bother the other community guys (I have done so already!!!) and do it ourselves!!!! Please, update the CREDITS section of the first post with reference to IW and his generous contribution...

P.S.: By the way, my AEing skills are improving, so I will help you to that too...

[Count Bagatur]

Hello all again. Lets talk about mod development on skype on Tuesday. But i speak not very good in English. =)

Gambit, how is successes?

[Gambit]

Alex, I have chatted with Iron Warrior and we are waiting HIS COMPLETE version of White Scars.
I believe it will ready within a week (more or less). I do not want to bother him any further, HE IS TOO BUSY completing his masterpiece DoC!!

He agreed that we can DO anything with it afterwards (so let's make this GOOD),... but he HAS NO TIME assisting us any further.
I believe this is MORE THAN ENOUGH!!!

The problem is the next week (Monday to Sunday) I will be away for Easter holidays, so I will NOT be able to access my PC...



P.S.: By the way... How was the match? Did your friend won?

[Count Bagatur]

Alex, I have chatted with Iron Warrior and we are waiting HIS COMPLETE version of White Scars.
I believe it will ready within a week (more or less). I do not want to bother him any further, HE IS TOO BUSY completing his masterpiece DoC!!

Oh i see. And when we will speak on skype about mod development?

P.S.: By the way... How was the match? Did your friend won?

My friend Kostya was organisator of box match. He didn`t fought in that day. But another boxer Denis Lebedev fought and won on the 2nd round. You can see the photos. I PM you

also for Gambit: Good luck to you! Best wishes on holidays!

[Gambit]

OK guys, this a DRAFT sample of the White Scars Taskbar: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/154/wstaskbar.jpg
(sorry for the White background)
Remember, this is my FIRST attempt to "make" (actually modify) a taskbar, and this is not the final version, just an experiment.
I just edited the normal Space Marines TB a bit.... nothing more.

Time's and conditions' permitting, I will also make new icons - provided my skills will be up to it by then.

By the way, I use GIMP.

[Cylarne_04]

You should make a new Tyranid taskbar for me Gambit.

Awesome work.

[Gambit]

You should make a new Tyranid taskbar for me Gambit.

Give me some time to become more adept at GIMP, and I will try it!

Awesome work.

Hehe. Thanks Force Commander Cylarne! If fact I am just experimenting.... And this taskbar is ...AWFUL at its current state.
Me and Alex (Count Bagatur) want this MOD to be awesome in every aspect, and since we lack members with certain skills that are imminently required, it is up to us to do it.
But this will of course require more time - so I believe it is TOO early to give an ETA or something.

P.S.: I believe I can do MUCH better work with icons (I've already tried, and my icons are way better than Vanilla ones)

[Cylarne_04]

..........I meant Daemons, not Tyranids. :stupidfacesmile: I actually would need a new Tyranid taskbar though for you know what.

P.S.: I believe I can do MUCH better work with icons (I've already tried, and my icons are way better than Vanilla ones)

Then I can't wait to see...

Yes good efforts going here, looking nice.

[Gambit]

I actually would need a new Tyranid taskbar though for you know what.

..........I meant Daemons, not Tyranids.

I suspected so. Man, you know that my favourite EVIL army is Chaos Daemons, so I AM MORE than willing to try!!!!
And I am.... kinda.... gradually getting the hand of GIMP.

By the way, here is a (low-quality) version of my current Taskbar attempt:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/259/wstaskbard.jpg
I would like to hear some comments...