First Teaser Trailer

[Unsung Duck]

Teaser trailer just got released! Mostly a recap of history and statistics, completed in Relic's "moving art" style cutscenes, but also features photos and maps. Shows very little gameplay footage, the only footage we see shows a Russian soldier in a trench. Looks it might be taken from a cutscene or it's just been made for the trailer. But still it's cool to finally get a trailer.


http://www.gameinformer.com/games/co...r-trailer.aspx

[LoneWolf666]

More of the same marketing line, can't wait to see actual gameplay, but that's nowhere near ready probably.

[Sir Guppy]

I found it to be a bit of an odd trailer. It was basically a bunch of casualty statistics, presented in a very strange, movie trailer style manner, it felt like something out of an action movie, and the line at the end "the real casualty is forgetting their sacrifice" felt really shallow and insincere.

[roflmao]

Yeah I agree, it's odd. I think Relic does cutscenes with still images really well, but in all the previous games the still images have been paintings. In this case the juxtaposition of actual real war images with cartoonishly red smoke and a very stylized map feels off balance.

It's a combination of very weird looking production values with pretty epic realistic shots. I don't know how to explain it. The red explosions look like ingame explosions from coh.

I sense budget cuts because of all the problems THQ is going through.

[Caeltos]

It's a teaser-trailer?

[Weavern]

Cant say I enjoyed the narrator's voice, really felt out of place.

[Pocktio]

Not sure that kind of 'remember their sacrifice' is rightly placed in a videogame trailer.

I'm planning on blowing up thousands of red army conscripts.....

[Akranadas]

Still feel zero emotion for the Soviets

Cant say I enjoyed the narrator's voice, really felt out of place.

I think that's because he was American. I understand they wanted to draw comparisons between the Western and Eastern fronts but I think it failed; well at least for me.

[Romanov77]

Still feel zero emotion for the Soviets

Dude. they were communists!
That means that they wanted everybody to be equal and that was awesome. How cannot you feel for them?


Nevermind they got communism completely wrong, but at least they tried

[Mirage Knight]

Dude. they were communists!
That means that they wanted everybody to be equal and that was awesome. How cannot you feel for them?

Under Stalin, that wasn't true communism - that was little more than a thinly veiled dictatorship headed by a paranoid, tyrannical control freak who ruled by cult of personality. Although the position he held was technically an elected one that wasn't initially a leading position, he used it to gain more and more power and crush any opposition to his rule. If you became too popular with the people and the party and knew too much in Stalin's eyes, he made you disappear: For example, Nikolai Yezhov, former head of the NKVD and orchestrator of the Great Purge, was arrested, put on trial, beaten and tortured, and executed in secret in 1940, with Stalin declaring damnatio memoriae on him. Just before Germany and the Soviet Union went to war, half of Poland was under Soviet occupation and much of the territory Russia lost in the treaties that ended WWI was regained thanks to a non-aggression pact. Stalin had eyes on other parts of Europe as well, including Yugoslavia and Romania - the Nazis simply beat the Soviets to the punch.

So no, I don't "feel" for the WW2-era Soviet government. Arguably they were no better than the National Socialists that plunged Germany and most of Europe into a bloody war lasting almost 6 years. The Soviets under Stalin practically annexed most of Eastern Europe after the war ended when most of the central and eastern countries "liberated" by the Red Army wound up becoming satellite states of the Soviet Union and plunged the world into an even longer Cold War.

"the real casualty is forgetting their sacrifice" ...really?

More like...

Stalin: "We're getting our asses kicked here - could you loan us some war material and help take the pressure off us? Just ignore that bit where we occupied Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, eastern Poland and a couple of other places and tried to invade Finland. We'll pay you back later."
Allies: "Well, you said you'd pay us back and I guess that the enemy of our enemy is our friend...so yeah, you can join our club and we'll help you out where we can."
Stalin: "Cool! Also, we get to redraw the map of Europe when we're done with Germany."

That's pretty much my feelings on the matter.

[CommissarRezail]

It's a teaser-trailer?

When does it start teasing?

[Akranadas]

Winston Churchill was one of the only allied leaders that knew what the Soviets were up to and actually had a plan to go to war with the Russians right after they defeated Germany (even re-arming entire German armies to fight for them), but the American's disagreed (which obviously was a mistake in hindsight due to the Cold War and other proxy wars); he called it Operation Unthinkable.

I don't feel for the Soviet cause at all, maybe its because I'm effectively a world away from Europe.

[whatsleft]

i doubt people should ever feel for the reasons why higher ups make decisions for they are usually selfish. they should be feeling for the soldiers deep in mud and snow who were unwillingly carrying out orders. the fact the stalin's rule was so brutal and self destructive, like that order of having ur own side shooting you. i feel for the conscripts and ultimately their sacrifice, for it was only through their deaths, that had the higher ups realize how retarded that was.

[Wildcard84]

Just ignore that bit where we occupied Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, eastern Poland and a couple of other places and tried to invade Finland.

MirageKnight: Do you know how seldom that comes up that someone even knows Finlands part in ww2, you just became my BFF ..Also, just for a quiz, Finland was the only continental european country that took part in the war that didn't get occupied by opressor / enemy / whatever they should be called..

And to the trailer:

Imo its great to see that casualties are brought up. Its so very often, that (only) the USA and British are hailed as heroes, and their losses lamented over and over again (especially the invasion of normandy).. When the truth is that on the Eastern Front, such casualty numbers were on a daily basis..

I hope that this game will open up the eyes of the West (and most notably people in USA), that while their acts required balls, it was near to nothing when compared to the cold hell that was on the eastern europe.