Necromunda Mod

**Diddley squat** · 4th Jul 12 11:17 AM

this mod is being developed in dc, but hopefully when its a bit more solid, will be all about ss

so, it will be played on custom maps only, provided by the excellent J-L.

the maps will contain all the buildings you need, so you have no builders in your gang.

you will have to get to the buildings and capture them, in order to use their advantages.

There are 4 resources:
Water - will cap your population. if your population exceeds your water resource (by losing water distilleries), your gang will lose health over time.
ammo - you can only get ammo by exchanging credits for ammo
scrap - you gain scrap by owning mines/ slag tunnels(!) etc.
credits - buy guns, ammo, hire mercs, pay gang members.

you compete against other gangs, played by ai or a human (if you can find one), but are infringed by the nasty inhabitants of necromunda itself........

watch this space for updates!
Enforcer gets a nasty surprise in the depths of the underhive!

(Jaguar_Lord)
pitslave weapon

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**subspace5000** · 4th Jul 12 12:03 PM

Out of interest, can DOW even support four resources at a time? I thought three was the maximum it could handle.

Still, I like the sound of a Necromunda-themed mod. Best of luck with it

**Michael1980** · 4th Jul 12 12:24 PM

http://i50.tinypic.com/wvd18m.jpg
Necromunda gangman

just a reskin

**Diddley squat** · 4th Jul 12 12:35 PM

nice!

@michael1980, you could definitely do your own custom gang for this mod. give them a name/backstory, make the models etc. it would be awesome if people brought their own gangs to the table. real necromunda-like!

all of the original house gangs will be added over time.

@subspace5000 - ss has 5 resources. i haven't started looking at them to be honest! - but i'm sure with enough vaseline we can get them in.

**METAL GOD** · 4th Jul 12 2:03 PM

the history of necromunda is interesting, good luck

**Jaguar-Lord** · 4th Jul 12 3:05 PM

as far as ressource is involved we can do any number of resources, but this ressource are not like req and power or faith or ....you script them in scar and have to design and code them to work (ex :kill enemy get "rep" points, kiss an arbites ass loose "rep"points, spend "req" point to enlist more gangers or get a special weapon at the weapon dealer shop....

JL

**Diddley squat** · 4th Jul 12 4:01 PM

J_L that is exactly what i hoped you would say!

ps, your pm box is full. great work by the way!

**Cylarne_04** · 4th Jul 12 4:38 PM

Question what is Necromunda? Google doesn't help.

**cagecrawler** · 4th Jul 12 4:40 PM

A skirmish, campaigny game based on 40K.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromunda

**Michael1980** · 5th Jul 12 12:26 AM

It's like regular WH40K, only instead of many planets we have one hive-planet with several criminal & law-enforcement "races"
life is criminal in NEcromunda

there are also something like Salvar Chem dogs if you want them

And chem-factory workers \ underhive dwellers

http://i42.tinypic.com/23h7nm9.jpg

**Xaitan** · 5th Jul 12 1:30 AM

This could be interesting, keep up the good work guys!

**Gambit** · 5th Jul 12 3:41 AM

Law-enforcement.... Hmm.....
Doesn't this sound like Arbites?

P.S.: Good luck to your mod man!

**PsykoTenshi** · 5th Jul 12 4:12 AM

Precisely my friend, (according to my scarce knowledge on Necromunda) the Arbites play a significant role as the keepers of order among the hive's tougher areas. IMO they would fit this mod well.

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**Jaguar-Lord** · 5th Jul 12 8:41 AM

pm box cleaned Diddley..

don't worry about exoctic features in Dow...we are exoticism specialist

**Diddley squat** · 5th Jul 12 9:39 AM

cheers peeps. progress has been made daily, we have J_L mapping his socks off with some excellent results.
we got one gang (almost) entirely animated and oe'd. got some beasties. got a load of the atribute files done. and a bit of ui.

there will be almost no original models in it, innit.

**Cylarne_04** · 5th Jul 12 9:54 AM

Will this be multiplayable in the future releases?

Even, even if not, it won't be killing my interest in the mod... just I noticed scar code you are using and I wonder if it will effect multi? If it is multi, then, how da heck does ya do scar multi? Thanks!

**Diddley squat** · 5th Jul 12 10:10 AM

yes, it will be multi-player. hot bit of gang on gang action.
scar-wise, win conditions are scar code, and they do multi-player.

this mod is going to be on custom necromunda maps. i think this is how it is possible.

but i know nothing about scar. J_L has confidence it's gonna work.

**Jaguar-Lord** · 5th Jul 12 10:30 AM

multiplayer will have to be tested, we are going to use scar buttons to do this so it may trigger some sync error, unfortunately i don' have access to another comp with DC installed so it means beta testers job.
you wont be able to play Necromunda on vanilla or custom maps other than those provided with the mod, we will make sure no other maps appear in the map manager.
and because Diddley ask me to do it here's a glimpse of the incoming environment and feeling :

Spoiler

this is Necromunda boys !! and in the Hive nobody can hear your screams !

JL

**Diddley squat** · 5th Jul 12 10:35 AM

i can almost smell the hive just looking at it

**PsykoTenshi** · 5th Jul 12 10:41 AM

*In a post from Jaguar-Lord. Awesome looking screenshots with incredibly good angle and content*

Why this doesn't come as much of a surprise?

In other words: Fascinating work! Indeed a good reason to get the dust off my DC install.

**Xaitan** · 5th Jul 12 11:34 AM

Astonishing progress, make sure to keep the first post up to scratch with updates and what is being worked on Diddley. Keeps interests poised ;D

**Diddley squat** · 5th Jul 12 11:54 AM

Good point. will do.

**Cylarne_04** · 5th Jul 12 12:45 PM

Um, nice screenies, EXCELLENT screenies! But can you PLEASE wrap those in spoilers, my internet is funky and every time I enter this thread I couldn't scroll up steady for many minutes.

Not a intentional demand, but thank you!

@JL: You are very thoughtful, thanks you.

**boothy_p** · 5th Jul 12 12:53 PM

This looks very promising and interesting. Been wishing someone would do a Necromunda mod for a while now.

Excellent screens guys!

**Jaguar-Lord** · 5th Jul 12 12:58 PM

@Cylarne : done.

**moddlord1** · 5th Jul 12 6:20 PM

waz up! great story! great pics! bring it on

**Diddley squat** · 7th Jul 12 1:41 PM

some pit slave weapons first post...

**Diddley squat** · 8th Jul 12 10:54 AM

the remaining pitslave close combat weapons

**Jaguar-Lord** · 8th Jul 12 11:47 AM

oh boy !! the necromunda version of Edward Scissorhands

it is going to be a reaaaaaal pleasure to put these toys in the Weapon dealer shop. i'm eager to see this in action.
well done Diddley !!

**Diddley squat** · 10th Jul 12 8:33 AM

weird, a pyromaniac, on the run from those nasty witch hunters, seeking refuge in the underhive. aaawww, He only wants to make fire!

**Gambit** · 10th Jul 12 3:17 PM

Cool model!!!

**PsykoTenshi** · 10th Jul 12 4:34 PM

Carus Brom. From Imperial Guard Colonel to underhive pyromaniac

But yeah, what Gambit said.
If I may input some constructive criticism, that sword is quite big considering the guy is (as far as I can tell) an unaugmented human.

Great model anyhow, excellent textures, and I really like the autopistol(?) too.

Edit: *Sees epic Jaguar-Lord post* Those scenarios look GOOD. In fact, too good for this game. Unfortunately, very prone to pathing annoyances too

Considering JL is in the project, hoping you guys managed units to navigate in a non-The Sims-style in DoW is not a lost cause

**Jaguar-Lord** · 10th Jul 12 5:57 PM

underhive shanty town WIP (some texturing needed here and there ...)

JL

**Diddley squat** · 11th Jul 12 4:24 AM

it's based closely to this, and looking at it, the sword is a bit big.

i prefer the weapons to look massive on these models, to give the impression they are all lot smaller than space marines...

but yeah, the sword is too big!

**Jaguar-Lord** · 11th Jul 12 6:08 AM

agree. but take a look at the IDH inqusitor lord model

anyway this character is going to fit perfectly with the current map i'm working on.

**Diddley squat** · 11th Jul 12 7:20 AM

i think i will try to get rid of the brom-ness as well. the miniature has much more weasel about it.....

Jagur Lord, again, excellent level design. real nice!

**Michael1980** · 12th Jul 12 5:39 AM

You guys want to cooperate?

**Jaguar-Lord** · 12th Jul 12 6:15 AM

i'm not the mod leader but i don't see any objection to it, , you should pm Diddley about this.

**Diddley squat** · 18th Jul 12 3:28 AM

wipeout......

pitslave random heed

**fuggles** · 18th Jul 12 4:04 AM

JL - SCAR buttons do cause desynchs in multiplayer, as does any scar involving unit selection.

**Diddley squat** · 18th Jul 12 4:36 AM

Cheers Fuggles.

We will have to have a little re assess. can we re-name the existing requisitions in ss and have all of them working for one race?

**fuggles** · 18th Jul 12 4:55 AM

Depending what you are doing, I used a system of 4 resources in tower defence by using power, req, squad cap and vehicle cap as well as using player scores for calculations. So, that plus ork resource, again depending what you are doing.

**Xaitan** · 18th Jul 12 5:02 AM

Seriously can't wait to try this!

**Diddley squat** · 18th Jul 12 6:01 AM

thanks!

update on pyromaniac texture....

less brom more sneer

smaller sword size,...thanks for feedback!

**Jaguar-Lord** · 18th Jul 12 6:29 AM

we are not talking regular resources as defined by the dow standards, aren't we ? imo we should be rid of the cl, s, relic, slag completely and get a cred system based on achievement of sub objectives and objectives for (both) players, this can be scripted but it'd require some serious scripting ,tha's where scar guru are going to be put to contribution. we need to discuss this very seriously before we even consider scripting it, that why we got a private dev area set up at Revora's forums.
if this can't be done for multiplayer (it can be done for singleplayer) we we design a entirely new way of piling up the req/power.

Diddley could you make it clear if we do this for DC or SS, seriously i'm not in favor of an SS version for several reason, among them :
+mapping for SS and impass map problem
+the fact that we got a way to handle data across several maps and the ability to lock/unlock maps only in DC

JL

**Diddley squat** · 18th Jul 12 9:01 AM

yeah, it doesn't matter to me really whether it is dc or ss.

i was presuming there would be more ways to get what we wanted from ss, but development in dc has so far not thrown up any impassable obstacles.

as long as two (or more) players can play, that is what counts!

we'll continue in the dev forum, then announce the plan we work out!

**fuggles** · 18th Jul 12 5:42 PM

You would have to use an existing resource I think. I suspect that any SCAR message that was created would show at both ends, like a take and hold notice. You could always use score or something, but you would have to convert it to an existing measurement. I may be wrong, but I think you would avoid desynching this way.

**Diddley squat** · 19th Jul 12 8:09 AM

right, an example:

i have coded an ability that costs 30 power, and it gives you 30 req. so, if we have a workshop entity with that ability with a required radius (like upgrades/reinforce in fok), you can get in range of that building, then exchange power with req.

easy.

so, swapping out (renaming) req as credits, and power as scrap, you can get scrap from scrap yards, which you capture a la sp. you get no req, but the building will give you a lump mount of scrap (ie power).

you get a model in range of the workshop, and provided you have collected the appropriate amount of scrap, you can sell it for creds. (req).

no scar, no problems.

so, i'm going to look into ork pop, and see how that works. i'm sure it will be a winner.
then the vehicle cap, which is obsolete in this mod so far.
so, provided you can have firing cost as vehicle cap or ork cap, then we have ammo as well.

thanks fuggles,
if you want to get involved, i would love it....

do you want to have a ganders at the dev forum?

objectives around the map could have a "ransack/payout" ability, which once you've got past certain obstacles (whether it is blowing up a door, or defeating enemies), there can be an entity with that ability you can capture. this feature would require no scar (except the capture building feature), no intensive coding, really easy, but most importantly, can work with more than one player.

**Michael1980** · 19th Jul 12 12:47 PM

anything for me? because BoyChaos is back & I will be busy soon...

**Diddley squat** · 19th Jul 12 1:22 PM

yeah, i have a water processing plant for you to texture (if you want to!) but it is not uv mapped yet.that will take a bit of time!

btw, what happened to your scum picture?

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