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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/...robocop-remake
I've been waiting on a robo cop remake forever now, I really exalted right now. This better not be a hoax video or i really be crossed a wrong way. Good to see ED, he has a lot of improvements not to mention 100 percent better than before. However the aerial drone, seems of to me.
The video it self certainly have that old school robo cop feeling, with our new age tech.
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#2
Pretty sweet. Definitely looking forward to this.
I wonder who will they get to play robo cop partner, kinda want Megan Fox to be there but my second is Michelle Rodriguez. I'm pretty sure there no problem there
Whoa, ED just got bigger.
I don't like the slick new designs though (of RC) or what was revealed.
But we must face the fact that this is the future and that we must leave the 80s to rest.
I wonder if we will see a lot of media break commercial gags as well as a plethora of genuine oneliners.
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I finally gotten around at looking at the website, and wow ED is a whole lot bigger than his older brother.
Let the 80's rest at the right side of the Emperor, considering robo cop costume was one of the best out there at the time.But we must face the fact that this is the future and that we must leave the 80s to rest.
Robocop shoulder there is pretty damn sleek, look almost like human muscle in metal form.
I hope they conserve the dystopian view and black humor of the first two movies, please don't make it softer like the third.
And I hope Robocop is still bulky and unstoppable like the original, not some nanosuit version.
#7
Oh dear lord no.kinda want Megan Fox
#8
I kind of imagine a 2013 revision of robocop to look like something from Crysis to be honest.
#9
I doubt it, Akranadas. Probably more like something from Deus Ex: HR - as in, obviously mechanical, but still relatively sleek. But definitely no 'muscles' or anything else like that.
And obviously, he never asked for this. Sorry, couldn't stop.
As long he doesn't come out looking like gundam or crysis suit guy i be moderately happy about it. Nor change his hand gun, his hand gun was iconic...
#12
I think the helmet shape was probably far more iconic than the gun.
The gun itself wasn't iconic, but more I think the fact that it was stored in his hip and how he drew it was iconic - along with the helmet and face and the voice.
That said it will be interesting to see which direction they take him. The original was always slower, more ponderous in motion, giving a sense of some reduced dexterity, but with far more strength. Essentially an unstoppable wall that just keeps on coming, whilst firing bursts of bullets are you. With new CGI and such they can go the other way, enhancing and making him far more speedy. Personally I'd prefer them to stick to the old formula, a speedy robocop just won't feel "robo"
Well the helmet wasn't iconic, it was legendary if they touch that, then they are a bit hmm insane. Something i wouldn't even image being totally over hauled.
The first robo cop was slow, but was it because they wanted him to be that way or because he said something like " Walking in the suit was hard and i kept slipping on the ground so i had to move slowly." Not to mention it was hot. It could been both heh. However a faster robo cop? How will the bad guys any chance of fighting him?
Yes a lot of the old limitations were simply because of the equipment they had to work with - however I think it also partly defined robocop himself. He wasn't that fast agile superhuman, he was that slow cyborg machine-man. In a way it made him more robotic and less human, in visual terms.
#16
Oh dear...
I'm with squiddy on this. The helmet is iconic, no questions there. I think they were the first to do the visory-style open-mouth cyborg helment in a movie. The only thing thats iconic about the gun is the hidden holster system.
#18
I can imagine the evolution of the gun holster in the script or during production:
Okay Robocop is sort of a big metal sheriff so he needs an ostentatious hip holster for his huge gun. But WAIT. We also need to clearly communicate that he's been partially replaced by machinery and isn't just wearing a suit of armor. Put the holster IN HIS HIP. What like there's a little slot he chunks the gun into? No like his ENTIRE HIP OPENS UP AND A HOLSTER SLIDES OUT AND GRABS THE GUN OUT OF HIS HAND.
Yeah if they don't include the basic helmet design I don't know what they're thinking. It would be like making a spiderman movie where spiderman just wears a balaclava.
#19
SPIDERMAN: Modern Warfare (10/10 would watch). And you know they're going to do it, since they just remade spiderman like... two years after they remade spiderman.It would be like making a spiderman movie where spiderman just wears a balaclava.
To be honest... I don't think I'm going to like this. Maybe I will, but the original Robocop doesn't need to be remade. It was fine. Come up with some new fucking ideas, Hollywood.
#20
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Hmm. So now we've got two "grim dark" movie remakes coming up, the other being Dredd (prepare for cheesy one-liners).
Robocop was one of my childhood favorites, I'll be watching it develop.
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I like how they included the use of Drones in the trailer. Supposidly also being used in the US atm or will be shortly in the future. Man its so hard to switch off and not see these things.
As for the movie, havnt seen robocops new design, someone mind posting up a link? Im sure this movie like the new Total Recall will over use CGI and skip content that made the first movie so awesome. Hardly suprising right? Shit, the last good movie I saw was No Country For Old Men and that was awhile ago. Why is so much garbage being made?
-edit. Atleast with Dredd, Karl Urban wont be taking the helmat off. thats an improvement atleast.
If they do heavy CGI armor, I will be forever shaming the developers of this movie. Also there no full picture of the new robo cop yet.
Oh thank you for the judge dredd link :P i love how it look visually.
#24
So all three classic Verhoeven sci-fis are getting a make-over, huh? I found this (a short interview with the producer of the remakes of Starship Troopers and Total Recall) in the newest edition of Empire magazine, and it didn't exactly inspire me...
Meanwhile Jaffe seems to think that the position of Heinlein's 'Starship Troopers' on the US military's reading list means that Verhoeven was way off-base for his interpretation of it. "Verhoeven had an agenda that made his movie a critique of fascism, whereas I think Heinlein was writing from the perspective of someone who had served in World War 2 as an American soldier, and was writing it at the time of the Korean War. Y'know, one man's fascism is another man's patriotism..."With studios reluctant to throw money at potentially R-rated projects, [producer Toby] Jaffe sazs there's also an opportunity to make the films less extreme, and thereby bring them to a wider audience. "The more expensive a film is, the harder it is now to have it be that violent," Jaffe explains. "With Total Recall in particular, we made a conscious choice to keep it tonally something closer to Minority Report. It was just about re-interpreting it with a very different sensibility for a new generation that doesn't really know the first film. It gives the studio, and us as producers, the opportunity to introduce it in a new way."
If this man, who seems not to appreciate the concept of irony, subtlety, commentary and dark humour (or at the very least is an apologist for men who do not), is of the ilk in charge of Robocop as well, I fear for the remake.
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#25
Verhoeven was way off base in his interpretation of Starship Troopers. In fact, he made an anti-military war movie about space aliens first, and then bought the Starship Troopers name to stick on it after the fact. It was not, is not, and was never intended as an actual adaptation of Heinlein's Starship Troopers.
I look forward to an actual adaptation of Heinlein's book, rather than the satire that was the original film (don't get me wrong - I liked the original film, but it wasn't an adaptation of the book).
Plus, it'll have the power armor and everything in it, so should be awesome.
His affinity for a PG-13 rating makes me extremely sad, though. I really fucking hope he doesn't try to do the same with Robocop.
#26
I know that he didn't take the stance of Heinlein in the film adaptation, but this desire to distance the new one from his critique of fascism, particularly then to just try and rebrand it as "patriotism" is... well it strikes me as weird.
#27
You misunderstand, Kirjava. The Starship Troopers movie was not an adaptation of Heinlein's book. It was written, pre-produced, etc all prior to Verhoeven ever even hearing about Heinlein's Starship Troopers, and he never read the book (or had his script writer read the book) after purchasing the rights to it.
The Starships Troopers movie was completely separate from Heinlein's book. The new movie is intended to actually be an adaptation of the book, not a remake of Vehoeven's film at all.
Right so its going to total shit, got it. Thanks for that moving along.With studios reluctant to throw money at potentially R-rated projects, [producer Toby] Jaffe sazs there's also an opportunity to make the films less extreme, and thereby bring them to a wider audience. "The more expensive a film is, the harder it is now to have it be that violent," Jaffe explains. "With Total Recall in particular, we made a conscious choice to keep it tonally something closer to Minority Report. It was just about re-interpreting it with a very different sensibility for a new generation that doesn't really know the first film. It gives the studio, and us as producers, the opportunity to introduce it in a new way."
I think this is standard policy in Hollywood - all they want is the title and the instant fanbase; all they read is the blurb on the back of the book. The rest - eh - its whatever story the director/writer wanted; cobbled over a loose collection of themes from the title source (which nearly always means it fails). Add into that whatever the marketing department says it should be and then top it off with the CGI department begging to just show offYou misunderstand, Kirjava. The Starship Troopers movie was not an adaptation of Heinlein's book. It was written, pre-produced, etc all prior to Verhoeven ever even hearing about Heinlein's Starship Troopers, and he never read the book (or had his script writer read the book) after purchasing the rights to it.
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A little new info on robo cop, at them moment it's sounds like child hood smashing memory type of movie
Also i like both starship trooper book and movie.
#31
Eh. The 'focus group' bit sounds terrible, and Robocop going to shoot up a terrorist training camp is a little... well, dumb. But the rest isn't... too bad. Except the ED-209s in Iran to stop suicide bombers thing. If it's just 'deployed to the mid-east to shoot up terrorists' I have no issue with that. A transformation from 'social' to 'combat' mode could potentially make some sort of sense, I suppose - I'm going to withhold judgement until I see what it's like.
It honestly sounds like it might be taking a bit too much from Iron Man (going to shoot up terrorists) and Transformers (stupid 'funny' shit that shouldn't be in the movie) and not enough from Robocop.
I'm still going to see it because, while some aspects are ridiculous, I still like me some cyborg killer cop action.
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#33
(please learn from the failure of the Total Recall remake, please learn from the failure of the Total Recall remake, please learn from the failure of the Total Recall remake...)
I know over-the-top is hard to pull off, but c'mon, it's pretty much the core of any Verhoeven-esque film, and it's what the fans are going to be expecting of the reboot. It doesn't have to be gory (people aren't exactly going to be looking for Hostel style gore), but it does have to be sorta shocking and ever so slightly tongue-in-cheek to even stand a chance of recreating that particular feel that the originals had.
I know, reboots don't have to be carbon copies, but c'mon. Who the fuck thought "O BOI LETS MAKE IT LIKE MINORITY REPORT"? Minority report was boring, both in storytelling and scope, the only reason anyone really remembers it as an important sci-fi is because the script was fairly original. The thing with Judge Dredd and Robocop is that we, the audience allready know the premise, there's very little room for wowing us with in-universe revelations or original concepts, because the story is something we've allready seen. The only way to make it anything other than a flop is to tell the story better or in a significantly different manner than the original did, like Ironman or Batman Begins managed to. They were successful because they took the old premise and made it more interesting and unique. If I want to go see minority report, I'll go watch minority report... except I don't really want to, because I've seen it once and it was merely okay and seeing it once or twice was more than enough.
(Bloody Tom Cruise, always playing the same character in every movie... still can't watch a movie with him in it without thinking "that's Tom Cruise playing a Tom Cruise-esque character". "Rebel Tom Cruise helps Samurai", "Tom Cruise; Rebel Time Cop", "Rebel Tom Cruise makes Dakota Fanning scream while aliens attack", "Rebel Tom Cruise performs a seemingly impossible mission of some sort")
Dammit, not again!
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So, I saw Mission Impossible 3 for the first time last night and my friend said the exact same thing.
(Bloody Tom Cruise, always playing the same character in every movie... still can't watch a movie with him in it without thinking "that's Tom Cruise playing a Tom Cruise-esque character". "Rebel Tom Cruise helps Samurai", "Tom Cruise; Rebel Time Cop", "Rebel Tom Cruise makes Dakota Fanning scream while aliens attack", "Rebel Tom Cruise performs a seemingly impossible mission of some sort")
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#36
Makes sense if you ask me. Taking a BattleStar Galactica perspective, the original armor was as clunky as a 1980's Cylon.
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Not impressed. 1980's looked like a cyborg/robot...this just looks like a guy with a crash helmet and body armour.
This is going to be a disaster like the Total Recal remake was.
#38
Give him a cape and he's Batman.
I think the general idea is that the black armor suit robo is wearing in this remake will be tampered with in post production.
However! Since the movie will be nothing more then a 15 rating it will be utter dogshit. No robocop 1 alex murphy extended shotgun murder scene -Fuxxin Dropped. But there is indeed a positive to all this, the remakes of these beloved classics can never stop people from enjoying the older better movies. When will directors of this day and age learn that flashy CGI doesnt make for a good movie. Give me something that I feel is real so I can sink my teeth into it. Tired of seeing jackasses gain the directorial rights to movies they say they have a great understanding of when its so clear they dont. Blah.
I have to somewhat agree. Yes the old stuff was a but clunky, but you looked at him and he "looks" like a machine. You can't mistake him for just regular body armour. Even all the shuffling slow motions further emphasised that he wasn't human. It somewhat destroys a part of the story if he doesn't look and feel cyborg/robotic enough to be fully different from regular people.Not impressed. 1980's looked like a cyborg/robot...this just looks like a guy with a crash helmet and body armour.
I'm not going to sugar code it, new costume look like utter shit. The old one was very concerning look to it. The new one look like some guy jump into a damn jumpsuit, that's not robo cop that's biker cop man or something.
With battle star it worked better, considering the suits didn't look that awesome to begin with, but with robo cop, they put so much effort into making such a good look that, i'm not sure making a super skinny black armor would just work like that sigh.
#42
See, there's your problem right there.but with robo cop, they put so much effort into making such a good look
The look wasn't that "good". It was ridiculous. Much like the entire violent farce of a movie.
A great movie, certainly, but very deliberately including a lot of clunkiness and downright silliness to go with the over-the-top uberviolence, and doing so quite effectively.
I'm still surprised that they were bold enough to change the head design - that was one of the most iconic parts of the old Robocop so its a surprise to seem them move totally away from that aspect (it would be like Cylons without the moving red "eye" dot on their eyes). The hand also looks odd. I might just be the low grade picture, but it just makes it look even more like a suit with the glove missing than it does the last remaining human organic part of his body
The surreal thing is that the new suit looks like the 90s era rip offs of Robocop mixed with a bit of 80s anime..... it's very very odd, I thought they would go with something iconic and overly robotic because you can (Try) with CGI or go with something super 2010s sleek and shiny....
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Is there some reason that the second page of this thread can't be navigated to? I keep trying to go to it, but I just come back to the first page. EDIT: That's weird - this is post #45, and at the bottom, but the main thread listing says this thread has 55 posts.
Also: The new robocop does indeed look like shit, but I thought the helmet design was very similar to the old one.
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#47
Ah, oh dear. Look at that suit. It's not going to be gory and over the top like the original either?
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Man, wouldn't it be great if someone re-made Robocop? (*denial*)
The original design was rather iconic. The new design look like so much SoCal school of concept art spam. I am really sick of that style of concept art. One day concept artists - the ones specifically employed for this sort of thing - will have some sort of engineering background again.
Yeah the orginal robo cop suit was in the area where robotics was mostly thought of being bulky and clunky, which even being bulky and clunky made it real even specfically for today standards and time, and it still makes it more real than a skin tight suit with a big head helmet.... He looked like a legit cyborg cop that just has 2 billion dollars worth of equipment fused to his body. This guy look like he had 5 dollars put over his bullet riddled body and is some how living off of pure magic, and not his robotic subsystems.
The shapes of the suits looked way more balance than this one, and he didn't have a human hand, where did he get that from. He doesn't need a human hand so why did they add one?
#50
I suspect that the new Robocop has a lot more human parts, plus they're playing on our more advanced expectation of how closely a cyborg would resemble a normal human.
Regarding a very 'robotic' Robocop: the scene in Robocop 2 where the bad guys took a jackhammer to him and dismantled all of his limbs gave me absolute shudders at the time. Since then we have new yardsticks for on-screen torture scenes in A-list films - Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ comes to mind - but at the time, that grisly few minutes was fairly unheard of and gave me nightmares afterward.
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