[Update] Super Pershing: back on track again!

[robotnik]

I will use this thread to post any models i finish whenever i find time and motivation. no requests please, i mostly do things when i feel motivated to make them

Announcement: super pershing is back on try, im gonna shoot for getting a completed version released. see this post for more details-
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...post1045436381

M26 super pershing
this is still in beta, meaning it looks not as good as it should, and maybe some things are not perfect, but it otherwise works perfectly

Download
http://www.mediafire.com/?u6np3l26zjjk38u

M4 sherman with pershing turret
also in beta, but works otherwise well


Download
http://www.mediafire.com/?aq1a659ozxx9s86
some assembly required with this one, you may have to change the file paths in the rgm

make sure you use the following state

do_action_state_name = pershing_turret

state_machine_name = on

when using it to make the turret appear


Disney Bomb
A rocket bomb used by the allies. works similar to a V1
included is also the sound file i wanted to use as an incoming sound warning when using the bomb. unfortunately i could not figure out how to get the sound files in game



Download
http://www.mediafire.com/?dr4aygwxf7cwruq

Panzerjäger Bren 731(e)
Many bren carriers were captured by the germans, and some of them mounted 3 panzershreks, creating the Panzerjäger Bren 731(e)

states
do_action_state_name = on
state_machine_name = schrek

download
http://www.mediafire.com/?15h55j6tawcwrhz

M3 Stuart with Quad .50 cal
A bunch of these were supposed to be made, but was decided not to because they decided to use the M3 halftrack



states
do_action_state_name = on
state_machine_name = quad_state_stuart

some assembly required with this one

download
http://www.mediafire.com/?8dw5u2jw25tduig


Credits to Halftrack, DMZ, eliw00d, VanAdrian and Tankdestroyer for letting me use their skin and model
credits to nachocheese and the community for technical support and troubleshooting

If you dont know how to use these files please read one of the many tutorials in the tutorials section

[TheVole]

What's the difference between this and the normal Pershing? Is it just visual, or bigger gun?

[robotnik]

Ill upload a picture when i can, but it includes a longer gun, a .50 cal, the gunner and loader hatches were moved around, added some of the extra armor and other extras the super pershing had

[Dartborne]

looks great!...maybe the gun is too long ...

left: T26E1 Super pershing, Right: M26 Pershing

[TheVole]

Lol, it could be that its to long, but COH scaling is crap. So it could actaully be right, and just the Pershing having to small of a gun.

[eliw00d]

The M3 90mm gun was 53 calibers long and the T15E1 90mm gun was 73 calibers long. That means it is only 73 / 53 (~1.38) times bigger. Maybe it just needs some adjusting, it is a Beta after all. Good job, though, robotnik! It is good to see you working on stuff. Any other plans or ideas for the future?

@Dartborne
It is actually a T26E1. No E4s ever saw combat and actually had a different gun, too (T15E2).

[robotnik]

^ as for plans for the future, right now im working on a flak bren. Its a flak38 on top of a bren carrier lol, the germans made them with captured bren carriers

also im going to animate the t28 that adiya made when i get the time.

i like weird tanks and weapons, so i enjoy making them

[Rain]

Sir robotnik,.. all i can say is,. im your insta fan now!!!
also , you forgot the extra frontal armor plating in the hull, its still in beta so its fine.

Spoiler

and a small question, can it feature tankcommander & gunner at the same time?
btw,
Sir Dartborne, will this be feature in EaW?

[dmcb]

Looks awesome. Thanks.
I humbly offer feedback as follows:


The textures of the hull and turret don't match--- that said tho I know its a beta and I say keep the great work up I look forward to the final design

I love the muzzle glow effect!


One bug i found, is that if you have the stock pershing out at the same time as the super pershing: the extra turret armor disappears. Actually via more testing the extra turret armor goes away at random. I am sure it is something you can fix. You are very skilled.

[Celution]

Very nice to see someone making the T26E1! Some constructive criticism: As others mentioned already, the barrel is a bit too long, but you already wrote you will change that. That said, to make the T26E1 more distinguishable from the M26, you could remove the mudguards (afaik they were removed on the Super Pershing), and the extra hull armor that was added on the front.

[nachocheese]

thx robotnik.

oh and guys, the marker name for the projectile is, marker_main_gun.

edit: sometimes the armor plate on the turret vanishes, also the turret is floating in the air once the tank is destroyed.

btw has anyone managed to get the .50 cal rotating?

edit2: have fixed the issues but cant upload the fix.

[Dartborne]

@Rain,
yes, for "tank wars" game mode. (vs Jagdtiger)

[dmcb]

what did you do to fix it?

Did that fix the mg turret and or the turret armor problem?

[nachocheese]

robotnik forgot to tick a checkbox in the rgo file, i allways forget to do that so i opened the file to check it.

[dmcb]

What prog did you use to do that ? the chunky viewer?

[sp614]

i see several problems

1. can't see the coxial mg muzzle flash

2. 50 cal mg joint is missing

3. maingun does not "straight" point at enemy(coxial mg does point right, maingun has a some lift)

[nachocheese]

What prog did you use to do that ? the chunky viewer?

you need Object Editor to do it.

[robotnik]

What did you have to tick, I've been trying to get the gunner to rotate for a while but have had no luck. Also I noticed as well that sometimes the extra armor plates vanish for no reason, but I can't figure out why

[dmcb]

Yeah the extra turret armor and the gun mantlet disappear after a few mins. I am sure the final version will have that sorted out. Its just a beta. Someone here might be able to help you out.

I'm DL the object editor now, Ill see what i can do with it, and post the results.

[striker]

many thank you very much for the model
has comply with one of my dreams for the mod

[dmcb]

The Oe wont let me open the rgo's. It says not in any known projects. Ill just wait until its finished I cannot fix it myself.

[striker]

well already I put functioning the tank and I loved it
but it I have to change is the damage system
so you can destroy any vehicle in an instant
already repair as the gunner and just need that and already

[nachocheese]

here is the fix guys.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/22233801/SPfix.rar

[dmcb]

Thank you mate. I am still testing but it seems you fixed the turret armor problem. not sure of the .50 cal rotation unless my weapon files are messed up.

[striker]

^ as for plans for the future, right now im working on a flak bren. Its a flak38 on top of a bren carrier lol, the germans made them with captured bren carriers

also im going to animate the t28 that adiya made when i get the time.

i like weird tanks and weapons, so i enjoy making them

@robotnik is a good idea to create this model
I would love to
Here is a page where some vehicles captured by the Germans
http://www.1y2gm.com/t1334-vehiculos...r-los-alemanes

[robotnik]

ok im going to put the fix into the super pershing download


i also tried making the sherman with a pershing turret, but all i get is this. i tried combining haltrack and tankdestroyers pershing turret and the chassis from their 76mm sherman, since i dont think i would otherwise be able to add a different turret to the sherman without re-animating the sherman, i think.

Spoiler

[robotnik]

update, well made some progress with the sherman with a pershing turret, just need to make the sherman turret go away now

[robotnik]

Uploaded beta of the sherman with a pershing turret. there is a graphical glitch with the turret base, but im trying to solve it

[dmcb]

Freaking awesome I got both my wishes thnks so much Rob. So i guess you might need to adjust the position of the new turret. but you may also need to redo the hull of a sherman model. It should be an M4A3 sherman chassis/hull. To be historically cannon.

[eliw00d]

The model in COH is an M4A3(75)W... the same model used in the T26 turret experiment.

[striker]

@robotnik will be you help me with some models I need

[mig29cmt]

Cool~The super pershing.I like it.good job!

[mig29cmt]

Yeah,the T15E1 90MM/L70 main gun too long...

[Rain]

Thanks for the armor fix.

[nachocheese]

robotnik, i have removed the sherman turret and its gun, but it seems like the pershing turret has to be a bit lower, cause now theres a huge gap between turret and hull.

here you see what i mean http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3009/czxyq3ze_jpg.htm, moving the turret down and back a bit and it should be solved.

[robotnik]

^ OK will fix today and upload

[nachocheese]

robotnik, http://www.gamefront.com/files/22236...ershingfix.rar use this rgo files, they are edited to dont show the sherman turret.

only thing you have to do is add a state to the sherman via an upgrade_action :

do_action_state_name pershing_turret

state_machine_name on.

[robotnik]

^Ok, thanks a lot for the fix. Halftrack also said he had a proper turretless sherman he would supply me, which should fix any other issues.
uploaded fixed sherman pershing and posted new link in main post

also i just found a picture of this, i think im gonna make this next because i like it



Also the next thing im going to be releasing (hopefully today) is a disney bomb. its an interesting weapon i think

[nachocheese]

maybe i can fill the hole with a simple box till the positioning of the turret can be fixed, will post it here if i can get it to work.

[robotnik]

^ no need, halftrack is going to be supplying me with a version that has the hole filled in, thanks for the help though, im adding you too the credits since you contributed

@striker

I would, but like i said in the first post i do models which i find interesting and that im capable of doing, as this is more of a hobby for me than a job. if i do release any you want you are more than welcome to use them

[Aidas2]

Since you're doing all this crazy stuff, how about a Panther with a panzer 4 turret

[robotnik]

^ thats interesting, i just need to find a turret less panther and a panzer IV turret. the pershing-sherman was easy because nothing required re-animating

[striker]

I found this strange look panzer IV variant
called leFH18 10.5 cm / 1 (Sf) auf Geschützwagen IVb (SdKfz 165/1)
8 prototypes were built and sent to the eastern front



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[nachocheese]

yeah the pz V/IV looks nice.

iam currently working on some additional armor plates for some tanks, so damaged tanks get them after being repaired.

[VanAdrian]

@Aidas

nice discovery here haha

Anyway here is a little tip to avoid any misunderstanding : the second image is pure artistic vision, or gameplay problem if it's a plastic model used in a wargame haha Cause in fact this tank (only 1 saw the world ) had the turret directly riveted on the hull, so it can't turn the turret... in fact this strange mix of panther and panzer iv featured a... motorized assault gun XD

[Jagdpanther]

Yeah the reason of this fixed turret is, the base was a bergepanther of the first series (Ausf. D) with the turret ring removed but left the round hole, covered only by some planks.

[nachocheese]

i think they would have made the turret turnable again if they would have decided to build and use them.

also , how about the second tank on the picture, the Tiger prototype from Porsche.

[robotnik]

^ I would if i was good at animating treads, im trying to start simple for now by doing some easy things

[-250 wh div-]

Could be possible mix the elephant and tiger model for create the tiger p or wespe and pak 40 for the marder 2?
Another thing you can make using actual model mixture http://www.1zoom.net/big2/825/320671-alexfas01.jpg

[robotnik]

Uploaded The disney bomb. its a rocket proppelled bomb used by the allies, it works in game similar to a v1

i also included the incoming sound file i wanted to use, but i dont know how to get it working in game