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I agree with you, but can't help but be a bit disappointed if big publisher buys the license and does nothing with it, not even a steam release or anything. As to your first question, I really can't answer it lol, from a logical stand point for me anyway it doesn't make sense to buy an IP and do nothing with it. People do that, but I think it's silly.
#52
"we need to think of TF2 promo hats to go with it..."
Look no further.
There might be a silver lining to it going to a big publisher. It would get a very good budget when it's made...probably
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Well, at least there has been considerable interest if bidders have been told they will not be getting it. As I recall from the auction setup that means there are at least two parties left with bigger bids on the property. Here's hoping!
we'll have to wait and see I guess, when do we see the results, on the 15th? Honestly if they don't make homeworld 3 I can live with that, but I hope they atleast re-release the existing games and update them. If we do get homeworld 3 or they start work on it, I'm kind of scared to see what it will be like.
Even if a potential HW3 sucks, we can always Mod it! Any re-release in this day and age will expose it to a whole bunch of new fans, revitalize interest, and push the series back into the limelight. I'd welcome anything happening with it. Re-release via Digital Download, HW3, or both.
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#57
So the 15th is mostly gone... any word on the Homeworld IP?
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#58
i dunno norse i think today is the earliest we could hear anything but mostly likely tomorrow. paperwork like this would be real involved.
not auction-related, but HW3 related, in terms of what we have been discussing:
http://kotaku.com/we-need-better-video-game-publishers-472880781
The important part is : in the future, resetting a game development will be more common?
Ennh the problem with game publishers is that they pick a demographic and stick to it. They are more focused on what sells more than letting game developers just create the games they want to create. Me and my cousin were talking about this before too, he said "you can't buy creativity" Meaning that no matter how much money you give a person, it's not going to increase their level of creativity only there capacity to create more things, so more money does not equal better creativity.
we do need better publishers in my opinion, at this point if more and more devs turn to crowd funding publishers already might come to an end as we know it anyway.
That aside, still no news on the homeworld auction. In the next homeworld game I wan't space terrain!
#61
It isn't easy getting the financial backing to create a game. That is why the concept of a publisher exists. Unfortunately, they will seek to make a return on their investment (as their business is effectively producing a good-selling product) which leads to streamlined product design and specific target audiences.
Kickstarter isn't going to work for the whole industry, as the public only have so much money to invest in games. You wouldn't be able to sustain all of the good developers out their on public income along, which is why it isn't a viable business model for a lot of companies who have permanent full-time staff.
@Chimas: that is a fantastic article, by the by.
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What I meant, is that with the rise of kickstarter and other crowd sourcing developers, publishers might start doing things differently and not in the usual way they have been done in the past. Publishers will always be needed I'm sure, and making money is always a requirement for success.
Anyway, Homeworld auction, who do you think bidded on it in the final round? I have a feeling it was either Sega or EA. It apparently is going for ridiculous amounts of money, beam dog is out, team pixel is out.
Homeworld is a PC game. Large publishers generally don't like PC games. Homeworld will be to bought by pc publisher/developer that has enough money to beat out smaller companys. All signs point to...valve!
(Also, three points listed. They must also be teasing half life 3.
Valve would be awesome, but my most optimistic guess is SEGA.
I really liked that article too, because it fits completely with what I have seen, even in good games I like. While I think there may be some bad times ahead, the PC gaming market will remain alive and well, if that is any consolation. We might have fewer blockbuster type games for a while, but then, those are the problem.
This is why I like studios like CD Projekt, or Relic like it was in the beginning. Kickstarter is indeed not the ultimate answer, but some independent studios with a decent amount of cash could go a long way. If a developer can support itself from game to game, it will build a better relationship with the gamer than if they get bought out by these publishers. Just look at Bioware to see the fast decay of a developer that was once one of my favourites.
As much as I like Valve, I don't know that I'd want them taking the HW franchise. I mean, where is HL2:EP3? If they can't (or won't) drive development of one of their flagship games, what hope would there be for HW?
At this point, I'm just hoping it's anyone but EA. I'd hate to have to struggle under the burden of being tempted by a new HW game to break my embargo of EA's premium products. That, and I don't trust EA to do the franchise justice.
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Regarding publishers + studios, maybe we should see this quest as a matter of capacity: who is big enough and "idle at the moment"? there is no point in mentioning someone busy right now.
Unfortunately, it is a perfect match or it won't work, unless this future company buys the IP and save it for a better moment (what would make people sick for a half a decade, being optimistic).
Given the amount of money spent on the IP which is in the millions, it had to be someone big, My other guesses would be Koch media, those guys are basically funding games like the X series and they bought Volition. Stardock is a slight possibility. The reason I say EA or Sega as my first two is because of the amount of money. EA would probably whore the license out, Sega might have bought it to give the IP back to relic which is my guess, maybe have the develop the next Homeworld game after COH2 considering that the 40k license is now in the hands of a new company, we don't know what that means for Relic's permission to continue making games for the IP though or atleast I don't anyway.
I was under the impression SEGA had also obtained the Warhammer 40K rights.
In any case, I think these are the possibilities:
- SEGA knows how to handle strategy (see Total War, they gave the Creative Assembly a 40% higher budget for Rome II, it is looking great) better than any other big publisher. Also they have Relic now.
- EA or ActiBlizz would be bad. They are both the biggest elements of the current diseased state of big budget gaming. Recently EA's games have not actually been bad in overall quality but they have consistently had one or a few fatal flaws. On top of those flaws comes the rampant DLC disease of which both these publishers are the worst perpetrators.
- Ubisoft would be less bad, they have been improving lately, but I still do not like it.
- Koch could be good, but they really need to make it their biggest budget yet, Homeworld deserves that. Also, I fear their relationship with Ubisoft is not a good thing, though it might provide them with a budget big enough. They really need to pull their finger out though, because as fun as the Anno games are for example, the stories are terrible.
- I still think there is a small chance BBI might buy it, but it would be a longterm purchase considering their focus on Hardware at the moment.
- Valve would be amazing, but they take their time and I personally do not mind that, but I know a lot of people do. It seems to work for them though and contrary to popular belief they still bring out games fairly regularly, and great ones at that, just not that one game. Of course they are also focusing on hardware (with a lower case h) at the moment.
- Bethesda made the second highest offer on Relic at the time, though that might be because of the Warhammer franchise. Still, there is a chance they are in the running.
- Some group of disenfranchised developers might have pooled their money and upon getting the IP, might start up a new, independent studio. This seems highly unlikely.
Those are the only players I can think of right now. Any other options?
#69
BBI said back in january that they were not going to pursue the homeworld ip. Ya my money would be on valve or relic. and god how i hate EA. ya they can put out a decent enough game but the way they run studios into the ground and retcon the hell out of existing franchises but they are big threat because of their money. lets just hope the removal of their ceo turns them around leaves them disoriented enough atm
#70
A little birdy from CA who I will not reveal because it's a severe breach of trust said that Sega might have an announcement over the next few days...who knows what it could be about!
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@Renatus: thanks for the broad comment.
@Bowkers: thanks for sharing.
I was reading on a forum somewhere that the poster who had contact with a Sega Employee discussed the acquisition at Relic and apparently this employee had no idea what homeworld is. Click here for the link to the page.
That just goes to show how under advertised Homeworld really is these days.
and thanks for that little bit of info Bowkers
#73
The CA guy has no reason to bullshit me, he just said to expect it back at its rightful home in the next 48 hours..read into that what you will..
Well I suppose it would make sense for Sega to be the buy the IP, all logic points to that in my opinion. Though I am slightly disappointed I guess, relic has not even shown a hint of interest in doing anything with homeworld, or rather THQ maybe? Maybe relic is interested and THQ wasn't I just hope they do something with it, at least release it on steam or GOG. Time will tell I guess.
I was excited the first time Relic/THQ re-acquired the license back in 2007. But then they sat on it for years and didn't even release the games on Steam or GoG (or a new game for that matter). Here's to hoping that if they re-acquire it, they'll actually do something this time.
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/102...ng-IP-auction/
seems sega get it finally
#77
I don't see it saying anywhere that Sega got the homeworld IP.
Fingers crossed for Blackbird, even though I'm not putting any money on that bet.
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What? You might want to just quote it and post it here for yourself rather then tell us to look for it, I can't even find this 70th floor
Paradox is out of the running.
https://twitter.com/TheWesterFront/s...99726197071873
#81
stardock came in second i hear. that would have been pretty interesting
#82
I will apply immediately to whatever company wins the auction.
#83
If blackbird doesn't hire me I intend to as well.
Whomever gets the homeworld IP might also inherit a pool of talent it seems.
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Whomever gets the homeworld IP might also inherit a pool of talent it seems.
Did you just call yourself a 'pool of talent' in a roundabout way?
#85
Vijil and Norsehound are quite the talents, so I'd assume so
Just letting everyone know that the bidding has finished, we will know who has the IP in May
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If the IP goes to sega, I suspect a Relic-CA colaberation project in the near future.
Rumor says there will be an announcement on Monday
Have Valve ever worked on anything other than their own IPs?
Dota 2 and they actually bought left 4 dead.
Gearbox owns Homeworld
http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/commu...ion-and-plans/
Why? Why Gearbox? That's almost as bad as EA or Activision. All they have experience with is mediocre shooters. Are you kidding me?
#93
Well at least it seems we'll be able to get digital versions of HW 1 and 2 in the near future.
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#94
BOWKERS YOU TROLL. i like broderlands but if their history shows anything that they do not know how to use an ip they did not come up with or work on from the get gop. i do not want a homeworld fps
But...I liked the half life expansions.
I ain't really excited about this but it might be actually beneficial for "Homeworld" at this state. Releasing the games now seems like the are probably willing to scout the market for potential interest for a sequel (besides the fact that the need to make up money they invested). At least thats my positive kind of view on the matter, but still not sure if they are capable of delivering a game worthy to bear the "Homeworld" title.
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#97
At least they seem interested in getting opinions about how to do a sequel right.
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