to all scifi fans ...

[AntaresSITH]

please read through this and tell me what you think about it.

it is about a combat unit i am currently developing and which i will use one of my renders for ^^

i tried to keep it as reasonable as possible and used only "minor" scifi tech.

any (constructive) comment is welcome. numbers might be wrong, cause i tried to calculate them just roughly.

and if somebody needs some specific questions then think about these:
-what are the most devastating weapons you could imagine without breaking any known physical law (e.g. like matter/anti-matter reactions)
-what is/are the best material(s) you know tensile/shear/compression values of
-what are efficient alternative power generation systems (e.g. fuel cell)
-anything military usefull that a high tech combat unit would require (ECM, EMP, thermo-optical camouflage)

[Moe]

Excuse the stupid question, but what exactly is that thing? A ship? A mech?

What kind of comments would you like? The 16 million newtons per cm² seem a bit outrageous to me, you do realize that this means you can drop 1600 tons per square cm on that thing and it will hold?

[AntaresSITH]

all this is given in the text.
it's bipedal and weights about 12 tons (with up to 1000bar internal pressure)

man ...

basicly it will look like this.
i just have to improve it a little bit and add some armor and weapons.
besides my alien fanatism this was the main reason why i made the alien queen.

the values for single wall carbon nano tubes are quite accurate. my values are depending on papers from:
http://bucky-central.mech.northwestern.edu/
(e.g. "Mechanics of carbon nanotubes")

and this site:
http://www.dcr.net/~stickmak/JOHT/joht10strength.htm

mr. Edmiston said he's a material engineer to whom i sent several emails about buckytubes and some other material stuff


btw moe:
buckytubes are the future. they are very good semicontuctors (first transistors have already been built by several companies including IBM) and can stand exceptional mechanical forces. in comparison to this material RHA looks like cheese.

[The5thElephant]

They are what any future space elevators are gonna be made of. Really cool stuff, can be thinner than paper and 100 times stronger than steel.

[Moe]

Hm, I hadn't heard of them before. I wonder if they are still flexible, i.e. can you still stretch them, like skin is stretched when you move?

[AntaresSITH]

Hm, I hadn't heard of them before. I wonder if they are still flexible, i.e. can you still stretch them, like skin is stretched when you move?

these pictures are taken from "Mechanics of carbon nanotubes" by Rodney S Ruoff et al.:
(MWCNT = multi wall carbon nano tube)





nuff' said about flexibility i think

and if somebody needs some specific questions then think about these:
-what are the most devastating weapons you could imagine without breaking any known physical law (e.g. like matter/anti-matter reactions)
-what is/are the best material you know tensile/shear/compression values of
-what are efficient alternative power generation systems (e.g. fuel cell)
-anything military usefull that a high tech combat unit would require (ECM, EMP, thermo-optical cmouflage)

[GDS_Starfury]

interesting take on capitalism

[apainttown]

I wonder if they are still flexible, i.e. can you still stretch them, like skin is stretched when you move?

it is extremley flexible.
u can put this incredible stuff under very high bending angles and it is completley reversible, this ability is accomplished thru the strength of hexagon bonding.

Perfect dual wall nanotubes (inner carbon, outer silizium)

silizium is german for silicon. was gonna ask if u were deutsch, but a see from ur avatar, nvm


one heck of a creation u making, Dr Frankenstein,

[apainttown]

what are the most devastating weapons you could imagine without breaking any known physical law (e.g. like matter/anti-matter reactions)

what about something that matches the frequency of either the carbon or silicon bonded molecules and then adds energy to the bond. wouldn't that cause the bonds to resonate until they breakdown or transform to something less effective?

[The5thElephant]

It is VERY difficult to maintain a vibration at the exact resonance frequency. That is why singers can't break glass even if they sing that loud, they can't maintain a perfect tone.

[A176]

singers arent machines

machines can be made to obtain almost perfect results ;|

[SquidDNA]

Or you could just light it on fire.

[apainttown]

It is VERY difficult to maintain a vibration at the exact resonance frequency.

i don't know the frequency of hexagon bonded carbon. a delivery system capable of delivering tight, coherent frequencies? that is exactly what a laser is cabable of delivering. i just don't know if lasing technology could approach the frequency (or some harmonic) needed to effect the bond in question.

Or you could just light it on fire.

, i luv a pragmatist

[Moe]

Uhm... a laser with a certain frequency will not cause the material to vibrate at that frequency. You would have to time the photon impacts to the resonance frequency, and then use an extremely high laser frequency to max the photon impulse, but even then I doubt you could do anything to control the impacts. So no, that won't work.

Devastating weapons? Well, off the top of my head: nuclear weaponry, railguns, acids, possibly bioweapons (although these would be pointless against unmanned vehicles), plasma-yield warheads, extreme radiation (e.g. from a modified nuke bomb explosion) that might fry circuits...

[SquidDNA]

Moe, depends on the bioweapon. Sure, most bioweapons to date are human pathogens (although I think the 'war on drugs' has at times been fought with plant pathogens) but bioweapons designed to have long-term effects on the efficacy of a war machine (by, say, eating the plastic or rubber on it) are conceptually possible, and elegant, I might add.

non-pathogenic bioweapons in sci-fi

(See: The Uplift War, David Brin.)

[AntaresSITH]

silizium is german for silicon. was gonna ask if u were deutsch, but a see from ur avatar, nvm

thank you, corrected

Devastating weapons? Well, off the top of my head: nuclear weaponry, railguns, acids, possibly bioweapons (although these would be pointless against unmanned vehicles), plasma-yield warheads, extreme radiation (e.g. from a modified nuke bomb explosion) that might fry circuits...

nuclear weapons - check (used for creating hazardous areas)
railguns (coil guns) - check (used by V2)
acids - check (used as "blood"; fuel cell component)
bioweapons - check (used by V2)

basicly this unit is less a biological entitiy, even if it got some typical biological attributes (can heal, grow, ...).

[Starfisher]

So how do you make one? It would be one crazy feat of bio-engineering to make something that grows carbon nanotubes outside of laboratory conditions, let alone meets the rest of your conditions.

And one key feature of the whole Alien-as-a-weapon hypothesis that never made any sense to me: how the hell do you control it?

[apainttown]

several good points:

Uhm... a laser with a certain frequency will not cause the material to vibrate at that frequency.

sorry but i believe u missed the point completly. as an analogy, lets say the carbon bond has a frequency of 2k Hz. to effect it u would not use a 3k Hz signal. a 2k Hz tuning fork does not start resonating with a 3k Hz tone. u would need to match the target frequency.

You would have to time the photon impacts to the resonance frequency, and then use an extremely high laser frequency to max the photon impulse, but even then I doubt you could do anything to control the impacts. So no, that won't work.

i don't believe timing is an issue, if the frequency is matched, resonance will occur. u would be surprised at how little power u need to generate a symbyotic resonance. that is why military men are taught not to march in step across a bridge. it is not the direct energy of the feet hitting the pavement that will bring down the bridge but the resonance energy of the in step soldiers that will topple the structure. with resonance u can accomplish with a whisper what can not be done by a shout. remember the Walls of Jericho?

And one key feature of the whole Alien-as-a-weapon hypothesis that never made any sense to me: how the hell do you control it?

yep i agree, someone ought to make a movie with that in mind!!

[Moe]

Erm... the frequency of a laser has nothing to do with the vibration frequency of a material. My point was that you can try to do that with sound waves, but not with an electromagnetic wave.

To use your analogy: Say the carbon bond has a resonance frequency of 2 GHz. If you were to use a 2 GHz laser and shoot at it, you might be able to melt it, depending on the power of the laser, but you would not induce a 2Ghz vibration in the material.

[SquidDNA]

Unless the material had a dipole in its structure, but to the best of my understanding, carbon nanotubes don't.

Carbon nanotubes aren't a particularly exotic material; light a candle and carefully hold a non-flammable object like a rock just above the tip of the flame. See all that black soot? That's a crazy assortment of carbon networks, tubes, spheres, etc. It's making them in a controlled fashion that's a challenge.

[Starfisher]

Aye. And then getting a biological process to do it consistently would be one hell of a challenge indeed.

Although 'twould be cool in the future to be a nano-tube farmer

[AntaresSITH]

So how do you make one?

One unit is made by growing itself, like a human. For constructing its body it uses nanobots with different purpose (constructing, maintaining, ...).
The grwowing cycle is very short, e.g. about 24-48h till its mature state.

It would be one crazy feat of bio-engineering to make something that grows carbon nanotubes outside of laboratory conditions, let alone meets the rest of your conditions.

that's exactly where my scifi starts. we "know" about CNT and what functionallity and abilities it has, but we cannot produce it in large quantities. So the scifi assumtion is, that they *can* produce CNT in large quantities by using nanobots, which are constructing them.

there is no doubt, that we will be able to produce CNT in large quantities on our own. perhaps in 20 years or so.

And one key feature of the whole Alien-as-a-weapon hypothesis that never made any sense to me: how the hell do you control it?

the "alien" is just for visualisation and because i am an alien freak. should i use some dumb robotic like appearance like anybody else does? i also used it because it got a certain background (perfect creature,...) and implies fear in "normal" humans. and because we are all humans, i used it for profiting a little of it's background (=> giger, the films)

how the hell do you control it?

the unit strictly follows the orders of their creator (= thrid wave) and its purchaser. enough control i think. it is no raging killing machine. it is a unit for conquering, controlling and surgical elemination of ememies with minimal loss of resources to all participating parties.

[Starfisher]

Ah, my mistake. I thought you were creating this based around the basic Alien idea, not creating something new and shaping it like an Alien.

GG and have fun sir!

[apainttown]

Erm... the frequency of a laser has nothing to do with the vibration frequency of a material. My point was that you can try to do that with sound waves, but not with an electromagnetic wave.

ahhh man..... we are talking RESONANCE here and what ever can induce it, be it mechanical or eletromagnetic. the laser is just an arbitrary example. if u had a 'delivery system' capable of matching the frequency of the carbon hex bonds and with enough power u could effect the creature. we are trying to excite the elctrons of the carbon hexagon bond to a point they stop being a hex bond, this is where the nanotubes draws it incredible abilities from. when that happens who knows what happens to the carbon? the creature may appear to melt or explode or disappear or turn pink. call the delivery system a laser or a bunch of natives beating drums. to say that the mathematics of harmonics has universal principles corresponding to an underlying framework found in chemistry, astronomy, and physics is a given. lets not confuse mechanical vibrations with electro-mechanical frequencies.

[AntaresSITH]

of course the unit doesnt consist of CNTs only there are other materials included but i havent mentioned them b/c everybody knows them ([perfect]titantium alloys, diamond whiskers, silicon composites, siliconcarbid, huge atom-bond structures including Si, C, N, P, O, S, ...)

CNTs are only used for main structure and armor which isnt likely to be "pure" stuff. e.g. armor is always layered and consists of many different materials. some are for heat dissipation, some for EM field/shockwave damping, some for stability (like CNTs), some for damping resonance effects and so on.

but a special thanx to you for the hint about the resonance stuff. that's what a hoped would occur, when somebody reads though it. giving me ideas to improve my ... uhm ... creation.

EDIT:
wouldnt it be possible to neutralize dangerous frequencies with special frequency generators inside the threatened materials which generate counter frequencies?

[apainttown]

wouldnt it be possible to neutralize dangerous frequencies with special frequency generators inside the threatened materials which generate counter frequencies?

yes, very much so. the frequencies just have to be 180 degrees out of phase and of equal amplitude and a canceling effect would occur. how the creature will generate that much power is another good question.

also, lets say the creature was able to generate the frequency and amplitude necessary to defend it self. if the attacknig frequency was stopped and the creature didn't stop it's own defending frequency at the same instant, it would, in effect, destroy itself. [edit] if this defensive capability was activated by some kinda harmonic receptors the starting and stoping would be automatic. ok answered my own question but the power thing is still there.

also, why would the creature limit itself to strictly defensive applications of this capability. it would be one heck of a weapon. but the power needed would be to great.

also, doesn't it's saliva/blood work as a chemical equivilent to the resonator effect and breakdown chemical bonds, i.e. eats thru anything?

[AntaresSITH]

...how the creature will generate that much power is another good question....

...but the power needed would be to great...

power generation capabilities:
Primary (V3):
Neutronium/Anti-Neutronium (100% efficiency; 6.24*10E23 W nominal output)
Secondary (V2):
Cold fusion (H=>Fe; 99.99% efficiency; 1.7*10E12 W nominal output)
Tertiary (V1):
Acid based proton exchange (Fuel cell like; 90% efficiency; 8.2*10E6 W nominal output)

[Moe]

True, Squid, although that would just mean matching the absorption frequency. Also, this is a crystalline structure, the dipoles can't oscillate. That is the reason why you can't melt ice in a microwave, for example. Certain faults in the crystalline structure, namely Bjerrum defects, may move under the influence of an external field, which has an effect similar (but weaker) to that of free dipoles, but in general the E/M waves won't do much in the way of oscillations to a perfect nanotube structure.
You can melt that with a laser of any frequency.

Antares, 6*10E23W is too much power. Our sun has an output of about 10E24W. A 12-ton machine running around with half the power output of our sun is a little exaggerated, don't you think?

[AntaresSITH]

Antares, 6*10E23W is too much power. Our sun has an output of about 10E24W. A 12-ton machine running around with half the power output of our sun is a little exaggerated, don't you think?

who defines when something is too much?
nobody is complaining about the death star in star wars that can destroy planets. why must something impressive always be large?

i've chosen a neutronium /anti-neutronium power source because of this:
on another board (bbs.stardestroyer.net) they discussed about how the death star could generate enough power to fire a beam which can destroy a planet. they said that even "normal" anti-matter couldn't generate the required energy while still fitting into the death stars volume. so somebody (michael wong) said there must be something special as powersource and he came up with a hypermatter reactor which uses matter with negative mass.

i found something like "negative mass" a little bit disturbing and searched for a more realisitc energy source. because M/AM reactions are still the best option for this i just had to find something that got high enough energy-density to power high energy weapons like anti-neutron guns and stuff like that.

this lead me to neutronium and its antimatter counterpart anti-neutronium.
since anti-neutrons exists (certain combination of two down-quarks and one up-quark) why shouldnt it be possible that they can form neutronium or anti-neutronium respectivly.

i thought about a "small" amount stored inside my unit, about 20 dm^3 (with 10E15 g/cm^3). now i calculated the energy per second i could get when the minimum life time should be several million years. this lead me to what you call an exaggerated number.

6.24*10E23 W would require about 7kt mass-to-energy conversion per second. with 20*10E6kt neutronium my requirements where met. it could live on this stock for about 3 milllion years.

of course this energy isnt always required and is only used if the anti-gravitiy fields and neutronium shield is activated.

if my calculations are wrong, then i will correct them, but otherwise you have to explain why/how something scifi can be exaggerated.

this point of view can only come up if you have some comparison. so tell me to what you compared it. to babylon 5, star trek, star wars, perry rhodan?

this is my own creation and the only thing it should be is a little bit logical. so if a M/AM based on neutronium supports these values i use them.

btw:
there are certain star wars sources that mention stuff like this:

Star Wars Episode II:Incredible Cross Sections book page 23
Manufacturer: Rothana Heavy Engineering (subsidiary of KDY)
Make: /Acclamator/-class tran-galactic military transport ship
Dimensions: length 752m; width 460m; depth (with landing gear) 200m; depth (in flight) 183m
Max. acceleration (linear, in open space): 3,500 G
Power: main reactor 2e23 W; shielding 7e22 W
Hyperdrive: class 0.6; range 250,000 light-years fully fueled
Passengers: 16,000 clone troopers and support personnel
Armament: 12 quad turbolaser turrets (200 gigatons per shot); 24 laser cannons (6 megatons per shot); 4 missile/torpedo launch tubes

a 750m ship can have a reactor with 10E23W without anybody complaining. note that they arent explaining how they get the energy, i DO.

so i count one point for me here ^^

btw2:
perhaps you have to know a little bit about the background and especially the race which created thes units.

Producer: Third Wave Cluster, Tactical Galaxy 2501

cluster refers to galaxy cluster, which means that the race isnt just located in one galaxy but in countless galaxies. they are using neutron stars like we use camp fires. they build things that is equal or larger than a dyson sphere from star trek. (nobody called the "dyson sphere creators" megalomaniac btw. if you see something like that you just say c00l)

you may call me megalomaniac, but i think scifi in 20 years will look like that.

just think of perry rhodan. after several thosand years they are jumping around in the universe like we do trips to our friends.

my race exists for about 65.000.000 years (now have a guess why i've chosen that number), so they should be able to come up with some nice technology dont you think?


but anyway thanx for each posting you do in here
some were already great and helped me a lot.

[apainttown]

True, Squid, although that would just mean matching the absorption frequency. Also, this is a crystalline structure, the dipoles can't oscillate. That is the reason why you can't melt ice in a microwave, for example.

ok help me out here. if i remember my chemistry class correctly doesn't the possibility of a dipole oscillating depend on its alignment to some surface? parallel=no oscillation and perpendicular=oscillation? i ran upstairs and plugged an ice cube in the microwave and guess what happened? the ice cube was nearly melted in no time flat. what was happening there? is this the ice succumbing to its Bjerrum defects?

Certain faults in the crystalline structure, namely Bjerrum defects, may move under the influence of an external field, which has an effect similar (but weaker) to that of free dipoles, but in general the E/M waves won't do much in the way of oscillations to a perfect nanotube structure. You can melt that with a laser of any frequency.

yes, melting would work. add energy to the electrons of water, add enough and it goes to a different state, steam. adding energy to the electrons of the hex bond may 'melt' it, but would most certainly cause it to change.

enerything oscillates, everything. heck the universe resonates. what is it, 3Hz? just dont see a dipole or a 'perfect crystilline' structure not being allowed to resonate.

[Moe]

Antares: Your vehicle weighs 12 tons. It burns 7000 tons of fuel per second according to your calculations. There is something wrong there...

I compared it to, well, real life. I know this is sci-fi, but there is "realistic" sci-fi, there is stuff like star trek that rapes a few laws of physics, mostly in the interest of keeping it interesting, and then there is outrageously unrealistic. A machine that is a few meters in size, weighs a couple million tons (if it has all the fuel you want to give it) and has the power output of a medium-sized star falls in the last category.
By the way, a neutron is made up of two down-quarks and an up-quark. If you "invert" that, you get two ups and a down, and you have got yourself a proton. But your general idea is right, pair annihilation releases quite a bit of energy. I just don't understand why a neutron-antineutron annihilation would yield more energy than a proton-antiproton one, for instance.
The Star Wars thing you quoted, where is it from? Is it something from fanfic? But generally, sci-fi producers tend to screw up their energy levels. They usually talk about multiple terawatts of power output from their lasers. In "Enterprise", they once had about a gigawatt of power output from their hand phasers. Yet those things don't even burn wood.
Lasers in the 100W range are used for welding. Now imagine something with an output a couple billion times that. Never mind the fact that you would have a lot of trouble emitting that much energy without blowing yourself up, anything that sucker hits will turn into plasma really fast. If your machine were to use its whole energy output to fire a massive laser into the pacific, it would evaporate about 10E14 tons of water. If it kept firing, it would turn all of earths water into steam within an hour.

apainttown: Most microwaves have a defrost option, meaning that they heat a little in a conventional way. Microwaves are set to the absorption frequency of water, meaning that they are most effective when used on water. Your ice cube was probably already a little molten on the outside, and the microwave heats up the water, which melts the ice.
Also, an ice cube isn't exactly "perfect", clean ice, it will heat up somewhat.
My physics professor once used a microwave to cook raspberries that were frozen in ice blocks. The ice remained solid, while the raspberries were hot. That was pretty impressive (and tasty).
What I meant with the dipoles was this: In a gas for instance, the dipoles are free to turn. In a crystal, they are linked together by strong bonds, and you can't just take a dipole and turn it upside-down without tearing those bonds. Of course the crystal is allowed to vibrate, you have certainly heard that before when glasses are put together when proposing a toast, for instance. The dipoles can't rotate, that is what I meant.

[AntaresSITH]

Antares: Your vehicle weighs 12 tons. It burns 7000 tons of fuel per second according to your calculations. There is something wrong there...

it isnt messed up, read my text (the link in my very first post):

Mass:
	12 t (V1)
	10E13 t (V3)

the V3 isnt weighing 12 tons any more. thus 7000/sec is realistic (and i havent changed this while we were talking). it carries 20dm^3 neutronium with a density of 10E15 g/cm^3.

and the thing about the quarks. ... yes, i just checked some information very fast and just saw "ddu" in the anti-neutron section of my source. perhaps i should have taken a more close look. but basicly you understood what i mean, thank you

[Moe]

OK, so the V1 is the alien queen, and the V3 is a giant spaceship? That makes more sense, I didn't realize they were different vessels.

[AntaresSITH]

OK, so the V1 is the alien queen, and the V3 is a giant spaceship? That makes more sense, I didn't realize they were different vessels.

it itsnt giant. 20dm^3 will fit easily in the design.
there are 3 versions-thats why i always wrote (V1) (V2) (V3)

Now imagine something with an output a couple billion times that. Never mind the fact that you would have a lot of trouble emitting that much energy without blowing yourself up, anything that sucker hits will turn into plasma really fast. If your machine were to use its whole energy output to fire a massive laser into the pacific, it would evaporate about 10E14 tons of water. If it kept firing, it would turn all of earths water into steam within an hour.

thats the picture i got of version three, right. and if you think that V3 is design for conquering galaxies this isnt exaggerated i think.

if you think V3 is a mess then just forget about it. it is the most scifi unit in my draft anyway.

[Starfisher]

Don't forget about the ground's carrying capacity. If it's "jumping around" you have to factor in the impulse as well. IIRC, an average 150lb human causes nearly 500lbs of force on each foot when jogging. Your creature's feet have to distribute the weight evenly over the ground or they will sink into most surfaces when they land.

[AntaresSITH]

Don't forget about the ground's carrying capacity. If it's "jumping around" you have to factor in the impulse as well. IIRC, an average 150lb human causes nearly 500lbs of force on each foot when jogging. Your creature's feet have to distribute the weight evenly over the ground or they will sink into most surfaces when they land.

no this isnt a prob. i know of this problem thus i introduced "anti-gravitiy" fields which are shaped in 4D where gravity is solid (defined by me for this draft).

the unit got practically a mass of 0. my thought about this was the following.

mass is generating gravity. there's no gravity without mass. so if mass influences gravity, controlling gravity should enable somebody to reduce/nullify mass without actually changing the material.

man ... that are the basics of quite EVERY scifi genre. films use artificial gravity in their space ships that people can run around like on earth. star trek, star wars, alien, babylon 5. quite every genre uses this tech.

another usage is inertial damping. in films a lot of ships accerate with hundres of g without any illeffect on the crew. this can only be achieved by useing some sort of counterforce.

they normally use special (anti)gravitiy fields for reducing the mass of spaceships/objects, too.

so i don't really use some fantastic tech. just something everyone else does.

all this stuff only applies to version 3 (V3) of my unit, of course. the other two arent that freaking scifi.

[Ammon Ra]

And i though i had a strange imagination

As for weapons, if you fire a laser at the target and lock into it's harmonic frequency, you can destroy the target with much less energy than with any other "weapon". However, since your creations have a sun as a powerplant [metaphysicly, yeah, V3 specificly] Power requirements won't be a problem.
And for materials, i'd advise searching for amorphorous materials, aka glass metals. Not as powerfull as nct no, but stronger than steel/titanium, although glass metals suffer from catastrophic sheer something(??) or whatever it's called. It's strong, but has a weakness. and its already being manuactured in large quantities today. Much cheaper than cnt, & titanium.
Maybe the poor man's CNT?

If your race has lived for that long, they will have technology that we can't even concieve today. 65 million years. Technology/knowledge increases almost exponentially, and in 65 million years, the level of technology, assuming they didn't suffer any major dark ages, would be ******* incredible. Sci-fi? heck they would be more fantasy than fiction.

If anything i'd say your creations could be built by humans in...5-10k years? If we dont kill ourselves before that is. A/AM reactions would definitly be poor men's power plants. Vacum/singularity energy comes to mind, anti/neutronium reactions seem interesting .

There is a way to increase energy density of normal matter though. THe quarks/gluons that compose matter, are themselves particles. and as such they can have higher[predetermined] energy states. Currently the quarks in protons, neutrons, omega+particles are in their lowest state. Imagine the enrgy of matter in which the quarks had an energy state a few levels higher.

getting a headache just thinking of the possibilities... anyways have fun with your creation.

[AntaresSITH]

If your race has lived for that long, they will have technology that we can't even concieve today. 65 million years. Technology/knowledge increases almost exponentially, and in 65 million years, the level of technology, assuming they didn't suffer any major dark ages, would be ******* incredible. Sci-fi? heck they would be more fantasy than fiction.

the units which are described in the text in my first post are those which are "sold" to others. there are also higher versions, but the ideas i got for those are pure scifi and thus i didn't add them.

anyway, who says, that technological progress will always continue the same way? in some far-way future the rules of physics might not allow new techology. there will never be a perpetuum mobile class 2 (generates more energy than it uses withaout taking it from somewhere else).

i also dont think that any technology will ever be able to control galaxies or the center black holes of them.

[FluxX]

What about Bukey balls? I thought they were the answer to it all?

I would guess Bukey tubes would be your bonding/tensile material, and bukey balls would be your hardend armour/bone materials.

Carbon C20 I think its called.

Such a creature would be very easy to destroy...
You can melt/dessolve diomonds in liquid oxegen if my memory serves me right.

Quantum weapons would be good... or some sort of microwave...

Power... hmm, that is a difficult one. You need a large power source, unless you can find some sort of high calorie fuel.
I would like to see Einstiens theory put into safe use. A matter to (safe) enegy converter would be all you need though.

Ps, the laws of phisics and the universe are and always are constant, even if we don't understand them yet...

[Ammon Ra]

lol, buky balls, yes.

Yeah i guess if you say that those are the "standard" pieces of equipment then it's alright

[AntaresSITH]

What about Bukey balls? I thought they were the answer to it all?

I would guess Bukey tubes would be your bonding/tensile material, and bukey balls would be your hardend armour/bone materials.

Carbon C20 I think its called.

fullerenes (bucky balls) are the basis for CNTs, but since fullerenes cannot create fibers they wont be that good for structure.

there are several types of fullerens starting with C60

Such a creature would be very easy to destroy...
You can melt/dessolve diomonds in liquid oxegen if my memory serves me right.

like i already said. the CNTs are only used for structure and the outer shell (=armor) is made of many layers including many different materials.

thanx for your comment

[Pherdnut]

Wow... and I thought Traveler's Fire Fusion and Steel was heavy hard sci-fi reading.

[apainttown]

As for weapons, if you fire a laser at the target and lock into it's harmonic frequency, you can destroy the target with much less energy than with any other "weapon".

Scifi axioms for this draft:
-4D can be influenced by 3D
-Mass generates gravity (m~G), thus gravity can influence mass.
-Gravity/EM fields are solid in 4D space
-By altering gravity in 4D space it is changed in 3D space as well
-Gravity can alter our 3D space and connect 2 points through the 4th dimension of space
-Energy required for 4D based 3D altering jumps are always the same regardless of distance
-Tensile/shear/compression values of neutronium
-Anti-gravity exists
-Anti-EM field exists
-Tensile/shear/compression carbon-silicon nano tubes
-Tensile/shear/compression PSWCNT-metall composites
-Altering solid gravity in 4D space requires very little (3D) energy
-Force generated by carbon nano tube based muscles

with the anti-EM lasers are out.

wouldnt it be possible to neutralize dangerous frequencies with special frequency generators inside the threatened materials which generate counter frequencies?

yes, very much so. the frequencies just have to be 180 degrees out of phase and of equal amplitude and a canceling effect would occur.

BUT, i still like the idea of Resonance and Harmonics as still being a possibility for an effective weapon. just need to look up a few things.....

[SquidDNA]

Antares, I think you're saying "pure sci-fi" when you mean "fantasy." The distinction is that science fiction strives for a certain plausible explanation of the way things are, whereas fantasy doesn't care. The "science" in Science Fiction. So your more advanced, more implausible designs are more fantastic, do I understand right?

[AntaresSITH]

Antares, I think you're saying "pure sci-fi" when you mean "fantasy." The distinction is that science fiction strives for a certain plausible explanation of the way things are, whereas fantasy doesn't care. The "science" in Science Fiction. So your more advanced, more implausible designs are more fantastic, do I understand right?

ok, then i call it fantastic in future. sounds more reasonable

besides that, you can explain everything if you just think about it long enough.

i am a dungeon master i fantasy RPG and even there everything has to have an explanation or the players wont accept it. and fantasy soley relies on magic and stuff to explain things.