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[OPINION] Real Non-Uniform Banners

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    Helldiver
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    [OPINION] Real Non-Uniform Banners

    There is currently no option to make non-uniform banners for your personalized armies.

    This image shows the standard banners by default. Also the same type of banners seen in DoW
    http://store.us.games-workshop.com/g...roup_large.gif

    After editing my own personal banner I found that it still wants to sit in the center square surrounded by the border with the colors of the army.

    I found no way to make torn banners and guideons similar to the way the very rustic and barbaric Space Wolves have.

    This is one example:
    http://www.portent.net/gallery/showp...at/509/page/11

    http://www.portent.net/gallery/showp...at/509/page/12

    Chaos-
    http://www.portent.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/2657

    http://www.portent.net/gallery/showp...cat/502/page/7

    -Notice how the banner is all torn and it seems to have been made from a hide. Aside from the Wolves, Chaos and orks are also notorious for making their banners out of ripped clothes, hides, furs, and such. Regardless many crusader chapters are known for their banners being ripped and torn through the course of their many years of war.

    -Would it be possible, that just like the -Badges- that the banners also have a Transperancy ability? That the banners no longer end up just being a symbol in the middle of a rectangular canvas?

    -Right now really all you do with the banners is edit the center field or portion of it. Would be nice if the Entire banner could be editable. That would allow for more realistic war-torn banners and Primitive/Nomadic/barbaric banners (like what the Space Wolves have).

    It would also be interesting if the Ork Waagh buildings randomly where choosen from a pool of say 3-4 buildings. When the player plops the structure down one of those 4 would randomly apear. The reason? It looks very uniform/generic to have 10 Waagh towers all looking the same with the same Waagh letters on the same wooden board. I know this is far out. But would have been a little bit of detail. Personally all I would recomend was that the same 3d mesh and animation used, just that the actual wooden/metal board on it was different for say 3 models. Then one of those 3 would randomly apear when the building is ploped down.

    I am looking forward to game very much, regardless of any of these parts. It would sure add a little touch of detail to it and would further give the armies more personality as well as the later Ork suggestion, give them more of that random "Orky" feel.

    regards!

  2. Technical Help Senior Member Modding Senior Member Homeworld Senior Member  #2
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    Banners and Badges should both be allowed to use transparent backgrounds. I'm pretty sure banners are still a big bugged right now though.

    You could probably mod in the banners, but they'd have to be standardized for now.

    Remember each model/asset in the game takes time to build, and resources to display. You get 4 different WAAAGH banners, and you end up having the game have to handle 4 completely new models, and 4 completely new texture sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ÜberJumper
    Banners and Badges should both be allowed to use transparent backgrounds. I'm pretty sure banners are still a big bugged right now though.

    You could probably mod in the banners, but they'd have to be standardized for now.

    Remember each model/asset in the game takes time to build, and resources to display. You get 4 different WAAAGH banners, and you end up having the game have to handle 4 completely new models, and 4 completely new texture sets.
    I'm positive banners are still bugged, I made a banner for my friend last night, but he plays Chaos, didn't show up in game. Changed to space marines, shows up fine.
    "Si vis pacem, para bellum"

  4. Technical Help Senior Member Modding Senior Member Homeworld Senior Member  #4
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    Did you have any transparency on your banner? Did it work?

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    Draptor
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    I've noticed a banner bug where my banners show up on enemey seargents. We were both playing as Space Marines.

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    I can confirm that banners work for Orks.

    Make sure to enter the Army Painter and hit "Apply" every game, that seems to help getting badges and banners to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ÜberJumper
    Did you have any transparency on your banner? Did it work?
    Yeah, worked fine on my space marines, just wouldn't show up on his chaos. I tried changin to chaos today using the exact same banner I used with space marines, doesn't show up.. switched back to space marines, shows up again.

    FYI, I do the apply thing, badges/banners seem to work fine on space marines, badges work fine on chaos, I dunno what eldar have badges, they need more units with badges though.. Orks I haven't checked overly.

    I can't figure out if its just me or if Chaos banners simply dont work yet.

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    Trickv2/BjornT
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    Chaos banners arent working for me either, but on my SM army its just fine altho my banners appear on everyone else aswell, the othere players cant see my motif on their banners so it has to be something clientside, like the game is just filling in the blanks

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