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This has always bean bugging me since the day I got my first Space marine. They have regular helmets and then they have the pointy helmets that look like beaks. I always thought that they were wolves, but I am not sure. Does anybody have any ideawhat they are?
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The beaks are from an older style of Power Armour, been I while since I read up but the beaks are normal to either the Mk.3 or Mk.5 series IIRC.
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do they serve any propose?
yes they add variety to the sprue
Extra weapon?
But it might be something to do with the Marines job, like a kindof radio man type thing.
It's just a different, in fact, older design. All marines used to look like that.
What did Mk.1 power armour look like? Or weren't any miniatures/drawings made of it?
The Corvus (beaky) helmet looks to be based off the Medieval pig faced bascinet, the pig face helm was pretty good at deflecting blows, in fact the old corvus helm is probably better than the newer one. Can't be nice taking a bullet in the mouth grill.
If I'm not wrong (and I probably am) that style of helmet is still favored by assault marines. The orks have also named the space marines with the helmet; the hated "beakies"
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MK6 (corvus) and "current" MK7 one were only months or years apart. they're pretty much equal, and most of the parts are back- and forwards compatible.
according to the fluff sources i read, MK6 is actually somewhat underrepresented, both MK6 and MK7 were mass produced during the heresy.
the MK5 looks pretty much like MK7 i think, except it had stubs along the shoulder pad rims and in other places.
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The only major advantage of the Mk.7 armour over the Mk.6 is the armoured breastplate covers. In the Mk.6 the full length of wiring running along the breastplate is exposed and more vulnerable.
I really wonder why there are no Chaos Space Marines with such those helmets. I mean, they still use the same gear the used 10,000 years ago, right? What did they do with their pointy helmets?
The heresy was long before the "beaky" Mk VI helmet. They wouldn't have been issued them yet so they don't have them. (Do they?)
Re: "beaky" assault marines. I know some guys use ONLY Mk VI helmets on their assault marines because the look more like birds. (Something to do with flying I guess.) Personally, I hate the "beaky" look and avoid it like the plague.
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i always thought it was their to represent sergeants with their helmets on.
Its really just for look. The beakies are just like normal marines, except they are much cooler.
Well, if you look at the images of the Index Astartes articles you'll see that most of the pre-heresy marines have beaky helmets too. That includes the Chaos Space Marines.The heresy was long before the "beaky" Mk VI helmet. They wouldn't have been issued them yet so they don't have them. (Do they?)
And afaik there is the picture of a loyal Night Lord with a beaky helmet in the Codex CSM.
Is it just me that sees the similarities?
there is 8 mks of armour, there are minatures that have all the mks of armour pre hersey of course so no chaos influence on them. mk8 have reinforce throat protection, protected abdomal power lines. beak armour is mk6 mk7 is considered standard marine armour, mk8 is primarily assault marines and vet squads
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#20
i agree with the person that said that it was made to deflect blows of weapons. or they could be the missing link between the ducks
#21
Mk 8 is the sargents armour.
anof Mk 6-7 are both beakies how come most nowadays marines have reg helms?
there are two otehr types of helm too
termie power helm. looks liek scaled down termie head for power armour.
and another one that is similar...but still different...dont knwo wut its called jsut seen it in old codexes and such
oh yeah wut were the studs for back then???
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Jeez, I don't even play marines and I know this one (well, I have a book that knows it). This is from the 40k Compilation article by Rick Priestly.
Mark 1: Techno-barbarian armour, no atmospheric protection or life support. Used by the Emperor and his pals during the reunification of Earth and the conquest of the Moon and Mars (since they have Earth-like atmospheres).
Mark 2: Totally enclosed and life sustaining. Known as the Crusade Suit. The armour is arranged in 'articulated hoop-shaped plates'. 'Many maintain that is is the most efficient of all Space Marine armours, although its overlapping plates mare notoriously difficult to repair'.
Mark 3: Highly modified Mark 2 used for boarding actions. Proto-type termie armour.
Mark 4: First helm that's slightly beakie. First mass-produced on Mars suit. First suit to have an independant helmet (in earlier ones the head moves inside a helm fixed to the suit). Issuing of this armour was about half-done when the Heresy broke out.
Mark 5: The Heresy Suit. Used lots of pre-Mark 4 components because few spare parts for Mark 4's. Has the studs all over it because cheaper materials were used or something. Non-beakie helmet, a spin-off of the Terminator development program.
Mark 6: The well-known beakie suit (featured on the cover of Rogue Trader and the first plastic marine mini's). Rushed into production as the forces of Horus advanced throughout the Terran solar system. Beakie helm an updated version of Mark 4. Studded shoulder pad to save materials and later became symbol of struggle for Earth and stuff.
Mark 7: The final suit. Bitz are interchangable with Mark 6, but has better armour over the cabling on the chest and stuff. Has non-beakie Termie-style helmet.
They have minis for all the old armour (not sure if you can still get em). There's a Mark 8 too, but dunno what's up with that (this article was written in 1991). Figure that Chaos loots or copies newer Imperial armour designs as each chapter makes their own suits (for the most part) so lots of copies of blueprints hanging around.
A selection of power armour
Mk I Thunder Armour
Maximus armour
MK III Iron Armour
Heresy Armour
Crusade Armour
MK VI Armour
Mk VII Armour
The Beakies (Mk 6) were the original design.
Like pretty much everything else, Mk 7 was simply an excuse to sell more models and revamp the line. While tactically the Mk 6 is probably the better option, I like the look of the Mk 7 helmet far better. There is a Mk 8 variant, which is represented in some ways by the new models (and had two old pewter representations). It had armor covering on the belly to protect the still exposed ducting, as well as a raised collar to protect the throat (as the joints, like with all armor, are the most noticeable weak points).
The new greyknight powerarmour models are a variation of MK VIII armour.
Wasn't it called 'codifier' armour ?
I believe there were a few names for Beakie marines. The RTB01 marines, i think they were called. One of the funniest nicknames i have heard for these guys is 'Wombles'
Wombles. That word bring back memories...I believe there were a few names for Beakie marines. The RTB01 marines, i think they were called. One of the funniest nicknames i have heard for these guys is 'Wombles'
Beakys are cool and where can you by them speperatly?
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if you look the first pages of "how to paint SM" the show of the amour's of the past designs
I too have the "How to paint space marines" book and the first design was awful. They look like bicycle helmets with a pipe stuck in it.
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wouldnt you feel save in that? :P
Nope. Errant is the name.Wasn't it called 'codifier' armour ?
There is a beaky White Scar model, but then it's entire head and torso with an arm attached.Beakys are cool and where can you by them speperatly?
Other than that, they came only in the old Tactical sprue and the new one was purged of them. Second-hand or recasting are your best bets here.
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Someone asked why the CSM don't have beakies.
-Horus' troops had priority on new equipment: they were the first to replace their beakies with newer armor since they were attacking new worlds.
-During the heresy they were making some sort of interim armor combining old and new pieces, then they made the completely new set after the Heresy and then the newest-new set.
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Heres pictures of all the differnt power armor designs, leading up to Mk 8.
http://thewarp.net/war/stern/index/armor1.html
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That is a scary looking Ewok there, man...creepy.
slight problem with that is: Horus and his forces turned traitor when mk4 armour was coming into service.. beakies are mk6.. the odd thing is, when GW did the 3rd edition plastics they reverted the cable configuration to the original one (three cables leaving the belt buckle thusly: \|/ as opposed to the RTB01* configuration that had a box going up to the chest where changed to cables) but then added a mk7 chest plastron over it.. 2 of the 4 bodies on the chaos space marine sprue have the same cable configuration, and so does the aspiring champion body.. making those bodies mk6, but there are no mk6 helmets..
personally i was VERY disappointed with the armour drawings in the beginning of How to Paint Space Marines ~ its clear that with the current plastics GW redesigned some of the armour marks, yet the drawings for marks 1-5 are the old RT designs.. and the mk6's cables & torso dont represent any miniature ever produced.. (also curious is that mk8 power armour had 2 defining pieces, the gut cables and the gorget, the 3rd edition plastics split them, putting the gorget on a torso with mk7 unarmoured power cables, and sticking the armoured power cable box on a torso without a neck ring.. the HTPSM drawings put the armoured power cable box on the 'mk7' and there is no example of mk8.. has GW erased mk8 from existance?)
*Rogue Trader Box 01 ~ the original plastic space marines boxed set, the first Warhammer 40,000 boxed set
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oh dear god that ewok gif is disturbing :gnight:
Man that ewok is a bit.... odd
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A recent WD had picture and info on all of the types of SM armor.
and what is that THING
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Slick you have a problem. Dude, whats with you and that ewok?, I'm not sure what's more disturbing that gif or the fact that you posted it.
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