DoW choppy when scrolling over units

[Cpt. Asmodeus]

Hello I have a small prob when playing DOW. If I scroll over many buildings or a lot of units the scrolling becomes a bit choppy. I dont think these are low frames because I tried it with every graphic detail set to low and its the same and the units and animations work smooth. I´ve tried it out on another computer as well and it happened the same way (both have radeons with drivers up to date). If I use the pause mode and scroll the choppiness is gone, very strange.

My system:
P4 3,2 ghz, radeon x800xt with 256 mb, 1 gb ram

I saw in other posts that you need the contents of dxdiag, warnings.log and graphicsconfig.log. You can see them below:

warnings.log
W40K started at 2004-09-25 10:38
OS NT 5.1, 1023MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS
WORKING-DIR C:\spiele\dawn
USER Mathias Vogel

10:38:32.1 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=INTEL Pentium-IV:f=15,m=3, Mode=SSE
10:38:32.2 GAME -- Warhammer, 1.00, Build 57081.44324
10:38:32.2 GAME -- Available memory: 1022MB RAM, 2412MB Pagefile
10:38:32.3 State::State - set socket send buffer to 131072
10:38:32.3 State::State - set socket receive buffer to 131072
10:38:32.3 HostState - 127.0.0.1:6112 / 127.0.0.1:6112
10:38:32.3 Session : Now Host
10:38:32.3 Session : We are now a Host
10:38:32.3 PeerState - 127.0.0.1:6112 / 127.0.0.1:6112
10:38:32.3 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
10:38:32.3 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
10:38:32.3 GSTransport::State::SendSystemEvent - error sending to (255.255.255.255:6112 -1 6112) using socket (error 10065)
10:38:32.6 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
10:38:33.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = ati2dvag.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = RADEON X800 XT
10:38:33.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x1002 Device = 0x5D57 SubSys = 0x03021002 Rev = 0x0000
10:38:33.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x1943 (6467)
10:38:33.3 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71EE2-1E17-11CF-F16A-0823A1C2CB35}
10:38:34.0 SPOOGE -- 481.00MB available texture memory
10:38:34.0 SPOOGE -- 481.00MB available texture memory
10:38:34.7 GAME -- Beginning FE
10:38:36.1 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
10:38:37.5 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
10:38:37.5 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
10:38:38.8 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
10:38:39.2 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
10:38:39.6 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
10:38:39.6 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Full'
10:38:39.6 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'
10:38:42.0 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
10:38:42.1 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
10:38:42.3 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
10:38:42.3 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
10:38:45.8 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '4594' doesn't exist!
10:38:47.4 GAME -- Using player profile Cpt. Asmodeus
10:39:02.7 APP -- Game Load
10:39:02.7 GAME -- Ending FE
10:39:02.8 GAME -- Beginning FE
10:39:02.9 APP -- Game Start
10:39:02.9 GAME -- Ending FE
10:39:02.9 GAME -- Beginning mission savegame13 (1 Humans, 5 Computers)
10:39:09.1 GAME -- Preloading all models
10:39:09.3 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
10:39:10.5 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
10:39:11.0 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '9077' doesn't exist!
10:39:11.7 GAME -- Precaching Events
10:39:22.4 GAME -- Loading completed (19 seconds)
10:39:22.4 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
10:39:22.4 GAME -- Starting mission...
10:39:32.2 SimulationController::Pause 1
10:39:39.4 SimulationController::Pause 0
10:39:54.2 SimulationController::Pause 1
10:39:56.0 APP -- Game Stop
10:39:56.0 GAME -- Ending mission (Abort)
10:39:56.0 SimulationController::Pause 0
10:39:56.5 GAME -- Beginning FE
10:39:57.0 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '4594' doesn't exist!

Application closed with error code -1

graphicsconfig.log
GRAPHICSCONFIG started at 2004-09-24 18:22
OS NT 5.1, 1023MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS -rungame
WORKING-DIR C:\spiele\dawn
USER Mathias Vogel

18:22:22.7 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=INTEL Pentium-IV:f=15,m=3, Mode=SSE
18:22:23.0 Graphics Configuration Utility
treetransform.c/543:!SHAD -- Parsing [shader.txt] compiler script.
18:22:52.6 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
18:22:53.5 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = ati2dvag.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = RADEON X800 XT
18:22:53.5 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x1002 Device = 0x5D57 SubSys = 0x03021002 Rev = 0x0000
18:22:53.5 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x193A (6458)
18:22:53.5 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71EE2-1E17-11CF-886A-0823A1C2CB35}
18:22:54.5 SPOOGE -- 480.00MB available texture memory
treetransform.c/543:!SHAD -- Parsing [ati.txt] compiler script.
18:22:54.5 SPOOGE -- 480.00MB available texture memory
18:22:57.0 FX -- FX manager was passed a negative elapsed time! Possibly bad hardware (QPC)? Ignoring update. Value: -0.000000
18:23:12.3 FPS -- Start: 34.312, End: 49.578, Duration: 15.266, Frames: 826, FPS: 54.107
18:23:12.3 SPOOGE -- 479.00MB available texture memory
18:23:12.3 SPOOGE -- 480.00MB available texture memory

Application closed without errors

DXdiag, too big plz use link

Dxdiag

[terrific]

Agreed. I spent 50.00 on this game and can play nothing but multiplayer. On LARGE maps such as the first one on the campaign. The scrolling and movements of units in general are choppy, like there is a 1/2 sec lag. This is only on LARGE maps with AI. Smaller maps like the tutorial map are splendid. It seems to be a problem with AI and the map size. Here is what i've tried.


Reinstall Windows XP w sp2. - P4 2.4 ghz 1024MB ddr 2700
Turn on/off smartgart - ATI 9800 pro 128MB
Tried ATI 4.7's 4.8's and 4.9's.
Used safe mode 800x600 16bit low everything.
Turned windows paging file off.
Turned windows pagign file on with 1000/1000 MB
Set BIOS to share 4MB AGP to 64MB agp, tried both.
Defragged drives after a fresh XP reinstall.
Used ATI tool to over clock form stock speeds to XT speeds.
Checked for spyware. Adaware and Spybot.
All drivers updated: Tried with/without latest via 4 in 1
Updated sound card drivers.
Removes sound card from system totally.
Removed all devices except video/cdrom and 1 hdd.
Changed refresh rates from 60-90 @1024x768
Put quality settigns to LOW on everything in ATI cntrl panel.

NOTHING WORKS. even on the lowest of the LOW settings on a 9800 pro. This must be a bug /fault of the game. I've tried everything. Does anyone have any tips? This is a damn good game and i've been dying to play I'm gonna be forced to buy a new system and trash a p4 2.4 and 9800pro?/? wtf. Speaking of which any1 wanna buy a used ( 3 months old) 9800 pro. $50.00, dosent seem to be worth much more atm.

[Gigabomber]

Same thing here radeon card windows xp wont scroll for crap. I did not know that multiplayer would work though had been working on single so much trying to get it to work, oh well time for multi only i suppose.

[terrific]

Same thing here radeon card windows xp wont scroll for crap. I did not know that multiplayer would work though had been working on single so much trying to get it to work, oh well time for multi only i suppose.

yeah try multiplayer with out AI, works great. Small maps too. Run the tutorial you will see its smooth.

[Zoddo]

i have a - athlon +3200 - 1gb - ram asus 6800 ultra 256 -
when i play i have a strange lag ( 1-2 sec)..
i tried the game with an atifireglx1 and the game work perfect whitout lag or choppy! ( in all maps )

[terrific]

i have a - athlon +3200 - 1gb - ram asus 6800 ultra 256 -
when i play i have a strange lag ( 1-2 sec)..
i tried the game with an atifireglx1 and the game work perfect whitout lag or choppy! ( in all maps )

Somehow i think if i had a 6800GT i wouldnt be havign problems either. I think this is a problem with some combo of ATI cards and or motherboards, not sure yet. Memory coul d be a bottleneck. I'm not usign the fastest ram for my processor. I just dont know . . . :fight:

[Accaris]

I had the same exact choppiness problem, where nothing you could conceivably do would fix it! It was one of the first posts on this bug forum, actually. The best solution was to turn down the shadows. With shadows down to low and everything else at high, it ran acceptably. It is a bit irritating to have to do that though, and it was *still* choppy when lots of units were onscreen. I swear its a problem with AI processing or something. I'm using a Pentium 4 3.0 ghz and a GeForce 6800 GT. I really hope they investigate this problem further...

EDIT: I just played a skirmish game as the Eldar against a single Standard AI opponent, and by the time I had a reasonable force, it was UNPLAYABLY choppy. And that's with shadows and terrain on LOW. Something is clearly wrong with this game's singleplayer/AI programming. 4vs4 multiplayer is as smooth as silk.

[Gigabomber]

I can prove that it is some driver compatibility issue in the game because when I was using my geForce 2 ultra 64 it ran without the scroll issue on the demo. Now with my radeon 9800 SE softmodded to 9800 pro it has extreme issues no matter what the settings are..that means its the game not us...the card eats up all my other games and has room to spare even on this intel 1.4, go figure, they need a patch, disappointing they did not test these cards and/or boards

[Accaris]

Yes, I agree, something is definitely amiss. This is a problem that's appeared not just for AMD or ATI users, but for Intel and nVidia users as well; I don't think this is a random issue. Something must have been lost in translation between the demo and the final game.

[ÜberJumper]

treetransform.c/543:!SHAD -- Parsing [ati.txt] compiler script.
18:22:54.5 SPOOGE -- 480.00MB available texture memory
18:22:57.0 FX -- FX manager was passed a negative elapsed time! Possibly bad hardware (QPC)? Ignoring update. Value: -0.000000

Something is up with your hardware, or at least the game thinks there is.

Make sure all of you try the game on the lowest possible settings first, ESPECIALLY turn off shadows.

[Joreit Amirald]

have their been any patches to remedy this? i got all the recomended requiments yet it runs choppy frame wise and audio wise ... whats up with that ?

[Accaris]

I used FRAPS to record my framerate on Campaign Mission 1, with all graphics set to "High" except Shadows and Terrain Detail, which were set to low and medium, respectively. Here is the result in-game:



After panning around the map, with FRAPS recording the FPS every second, here was the result:

2004-09-25 13:50:53 - W40k
43
77
86
81
84
83
83
83
79
78
83
83
80
83
83
79
83
78
79
76
31
79
79
74
81
79
80
80
79
82
76
82
81

...with it continuing on in a similar fashion for almost the rest of the log.

However, the choppy scrolling was still present... it scrolled around like I was suffering from 600-800ms lag, even though it wasn't even an online game. This shows that frames per second has little to do with the problem, at least in this case.

[Nutter]

reetransform.c/543:!SHAD -- Parsing [ati.txt] compiler script.
18:22:54.5 SPOOGE -- 480.00MB available texture memory
18:22:57.0 FX -- FX manager was passed a negative elapsed time! Possibly bad hardware (QPC)? Ignoring update. Value: -0.000000

Something is up with your hardware, or at least the game thinks there is.

Nah, that error is a bit bad - as you can see, it's -0, it's just a rounding error from the math and nothing to be worried about. When it shows something like -3574363, then you should worry!

Gigabomber: Have you tried going back to the GF2 to see if the issue still exists? But on a 1.4 CPU, it's not surprising that it's choppy - we are far far harder on the CPU than the video card, more so than probably any other recent game.

terrific: Have you tried a higher AGP Aperature than 64mb? Even that is quite low for a system with 1gb ram and a 128mb video card - try 256 or 512mb.

[Joreit Amirald]

Yeah but my Main menu screen the Marines animation skips/choppy and the song skips/is choppy.... so is this related it goes on throughout the game, is it a graphics card problem or my comp just cant handle it the game?

[Gigabomber]

Tried multiplayer, the effect of the lag was greatly reduced until large amounts of units came onto the screen, i think we need a patch to remedy this, there rae a couple threads about it. It feels like a memory leak but its not, or, like mentioned earlier, high ping lag, but its not. I usually wait to buy a game til a few months after it hits the shelves and drops in price because of issues like this..

[terrific]

Nah, that error is a bit bad - as you can see, it's -0, it's just a rounding error from the math and nothing to be worried about. When it shows something like -3574363, then you should worry!

Gigabomber: Have you tried going back to the GF2 to see if the issue still exists? But on a 1.4 CPU, it's not surprising that it's choppy - we are far far harder on the CPU than the video card, more so than probably any other recent game.

terrific: Have you tried a higher AGP Aperature than 64mb? Even that is quite low for a system with 1gb ram and a 128mb video card - try 256 or 512mb.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try the highest settings for AGP ram and report back here. I will also post my log files to see if this helps. However, i do agree the issue is onyl present on the LARGEST maps with AI present.

Double Post

Thanks for the tip. I'll try the highest settings for AGP ram and report back here. I will also post my log files to see if this helps. However, i do agree the issue is onyl present on the LARGEST maps with AI present.

Ok, tried with an AGP setting of 256MB, max for my bios and still the same thing. I will post a copy of my warnings.log


OS NT 5.1, 1024MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS
WORKING-DIR C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War
USER Appleseed

23:06:28.7 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=INTEL Pentium-IV:f=15,m=2, Mode=SSE
23:06:28.9 GAME -- Warhammer, 1.00, Build 57117.44353
23:06:28.9 GAME -- Available memory: 1023MB RAM, 926MB Pagefile
23:06:29.0 State::State - set socket send buffer to 131072
23:06:29.0 State::State - set socket receive buffer to 131072
23:06:29.0 HostState - 192.168.1.142:6112 / 192.168.1.142:6112
23:06:29.0 Session : Now Host
23:06:29.0 Session : We are now a Host
23:06:29.1 PeerState - 192.168.1.142:6112 / 192.168.1.142:6112
23:06:29.1 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
23:06:29.1 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
23:06:29.3 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
23:06:30.2 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = ati2dvag.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
23:06:30.2 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x1002 Device = 0x4E48 SubSys = 0x00021002 Rev = 0x0000
23:06:30.2 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x194C (6476)
23:06:30.2 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71EE2-0D08-11CF-FE6A-0820A1C2CB35}
23:06:31.3 SPOOGE -- 369.00MB available texture memory
23:06:31.3 SPOOGE -- 369.00MB available texture memory
23:06:32.3 GAME -- Beginning FE
23:06:34.0 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
23:06:40.3 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
23:06:40.4 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
23:06:42.0 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
23:06:42.3 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
23:06:42.9 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
23:06:42.9 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Low'
23:06:42.9 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\Low'
23:06:54.5 GAME -- Using player profile test
23:08:33.1 GAME -- Ending FE
23:08:33.2 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
23:08:33.8 SPOOGE -- 368.00MB available texture memory
23:08:33.8 SPOOGE -- 369.00MB available texture memory
23:08:34.5 GAME -- Available memory: 1023MB RAM, 926MB Pagefile
23:08:34.5 HostState - 192.168.1.142:6112 / 192.168.1.142:6112
23:08:34.5 Session : Now Host
23:08:34.5 Session : We are now a Host
23:08:34.5 PeerState - 192.168.1.142:6112 / 192.168.1.142:6112
23:08:34.5 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
23:08:34.5 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
23:08:34.7 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
23:08:34.9 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = ati2dvag.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
23:08:34.9 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x1002 Device = 0x4E48 SubSys = 0x00021002 Rev = 0x0000
23:08:34.9 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x194C (6476)
23:08:34.9 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71EE2-0D08-11CF-FE6A-0820A1C2CB35}
23:08:36.0 SPOOGE -- 369.00MB available texture memory
23:08:36.0 SPOOGE -- 369.00MB available texture memory
23:08:36.2 GAME -- Beginning FE
23:08:37.4 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
23:08:37.6 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
23:08:37.6 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Low'
23:08:37.6 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\Medium'
23:08:46.8 GAME -- Using player profile test
23:09:41.9 APP -- Game Load
23:09:41.9 GAME -- Ending FE
23:09:42.0 GAME -- Beginning FE
23:09:42.2 APP -- Game Start
23:09:42.2 GAME -- Ending FE
23:09:42.2 GAME -- Beginning mission savegame1 (1 Humans, 3 Computers)
23:09:49.6 GAME -- Preloading all models
23:09:50.0 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
23:09:54.3 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
23:09:56.0 GAME -- Precaching Events
23:10:08.9 GAME -- Loading completed (27 seconds)
23:10:08.9 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
23:10:08.9 GAME -- Starting mission...
23:10:27.7 SimulationController::Pause 1
23:10:30.3 GAME -- Ending mission (?)
23:10:30.3 SimulationController::Pause 0
23:10:30.9 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
23:10:31.0 SPOOGE -- 369.00MB available texture memory
23:10:31.0 SPOOGE -- 369.00MB available texture memory

Application closed without errors

[ÜberJumper]

Terrific:

Why is your pagefile so small?

Accaris:

Try shutting shadows off completely.

[terrific]

Terrific:

Why is your pagefile so small?

Accaris:

Try shutting shadows off completely.

Just 1 of many settings i've tried. tried with a 0 pagefile and with a 2 gig page file set at 2000/2000.

[Cpt. Asmodeus]

i can play doom3 or far cry with max details and highest resolution and there is no lag and runs smooth. a friend of mine tried dow out with a geforce 5900 fx and had exactly the same scrolling problem. I dont think so that it is an ati only matter

[Barnsy]

I don't know if you guys know but there was an AI bug in the beta that did the same exact, annoying thing, regardless of the setup. Maybe they havent been able to fix it in the retail?

[cadianUK]

where do u guys live? could be a problem with different versions

[Accaris]

Terrific:

Why is your pagefile so small?

Accaris:

Try shutting shadows off completely.

Like I demonstrated, I get 70-80 FPS constant with shadows on, but choppiness persists. Its not a FPS problem. From what everyone is saying it seems to be an AI bug.

[ÜberJumper]

Can you guys try defragging please? That was one thing that apparently really helped people during the beta.

[Jellico_28]

Great game!!!!!

but i have the same problem as erverybody else.
I will try defrag and i hope for a patch to fix this

Greetings from Munich

[Nerevarine]

I don't have scrolling issues, it scrolls absolutely smoothly even at max detail and like 15 squads on screen (at least until the game crashes to desktop...) on xp3200+ 1 gig ram x800pro. The problem I have (besides the crashing) is that commands sometimes simply do not register. I click to build more space marines and it doesn't register my click and I have to click again.. Really annoying (and I know how to click in case you were wondering...).

[terrific]

Can you guys try defragging please? That was one thing that apparently really helped people during the beta.

I'll see your request and up you 1 complete reinstall/format & defrag for the hell of it.

Tried all three with DOW as the only game loaded after a full reinstall. Same AI problem on large maps.

[lexx790]

I have the same kind of problem when ever i scroll it gets choppy no matter what settings i put the game and PC at the choppy game play is still there.

The only time there is no choppy scrolling is when I pause the game and scroll.

There has to be some thing wrong but what?

1.2Ghz AMD
9600 128 Radeon (plain)
640mb RAM

Here is my warning log.

W40K started at 2004-09-27 00:58
OS NT 5.1, 640MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS
WORKING-DIR C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War
USER user

00:58:16.5 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=AMD Athlon:f=6,m=4, Mode=x87
00:58:16.5 GAME -- Warhammer, 1.00, Build 57117.44353
00:58:16.5 GAME -- Available memory: 639MB RAM, 1512MB Pagefile
00:58:16.5 State::State - set socket send buffer to 131072
00:58:16.5 State::State - set socket receive buffer to 131072
00:58:16.5 HostState - 127.0.0.1:6112 / 127.0.0.1:6112

00:58:16.5 PeerState - 127.0.0.1:6112 / 127.0.0.1:6112
00:58:16.5 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
00:58:16.5 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
00:58:16.5 GSTransport::State::SendSystemEvent - error sending to (255.255.255.255:6112 -1 6112) using socket (error 10065)
00:58:16.7 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
00:58:17.9 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = ati2dvag.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = RADEON 9600 SERIES
00:58:17.9 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x1002 Device = 0x4150 SubSys = 0x2070148C Rev = 0x0000
00:58:17.9 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x194C (6476)
00:58:17.9 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71EE2-0210-11CF-706E-7A00A1C2CB35}
00:58:18.7 SPOOGE -- 169.00MB available texture memory
00:58:18.7 SPOOGE -- 169.00MB available texture memory
00:58:19.1 GAME -- Beginning FE
00:58:20.4 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
00:58:22.4 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
00:58:22.4 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
00:58:23.9 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
00:58:23.9 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
00:58:24.0 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
00:58:24.0 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Full'
00:58:24.0 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\Low'
00:58:36.9 GAME -- Using player profile LEXX
01:06:37.2 Skirmish - loading badge 'chaos_marine_race/BlackLegion' for player (0)
01:06:37.2 Skirmish - loading banner 'chaos_marine_race/BlackLegion' for player (0)
01:06:37.2 Skirmish - loading badge 'ork_race/Gold_Toofs' for player (1)
01:06:37.2 Skirmish - loading banner 'ork_race/Gold_Toofs' for player (1)
01:06:37.2 APP -- Game Start
01:06:37.2 GAME -- Ending FE
01:06:37.3 GAME -- Beginning mission 2P_BATTLE_MARSHES (1 Humans, 1 Computers)
01:06:37.3 GAME -- Recording game
01:06:39.0 MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/ANNIHILATE.SCAR)
01:06:39.0 MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/CONTROLAREA.SCAR)
01:06:39.0 MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/STRATEGICOBJECTIVE.SCAR)
01:06:40.1 GAME -- Preloading all models
01:06:40.6 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
01:06:46.1 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
01:07:01.6 GAME -- Precaching Events
01:07:25.0 GAME -- Loading completed (48 seconds)
01:07:25.0 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
01:07:25.0 GAME -- Starting mission...
01:08:22.2 SimulationController::Pause 1
01:08:38.0 SimulationController::Pause 0
01:10:08.3 SimulationController::Pause 1
01:10:09.1 SimulationController::Pause 0
01:20:30.6 SimulationController::Pause 1
01:20:31.8 SimulationController::Pause 0
01:22:51.1 DynamicDecals -- Hit maximum number of decal indices or vertices
02:02:19.9 MOD -- Player Computer 1 has been killed (frame 26113)
02:02:19.9 MOD -- Game Over at frame 26113
02:02:25.3 APP -- Game Stop
02:02:25.3 GAME -- Ending mission (Game over)
02:02:25.9 GAME -- Beginning FE
02:02:39.9 GAME -- Ending FE
02:02:40.0 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
02:02:40.6 SPOOGE -- 168.00MB available texture memory
02:02:40.6 SPOOGE -- 169.00MB available texture memory

Application closed with error code -1

[ÜberJumper]

This sounds a lot like the same problem from the Beta with the jumpy tutorial, but I've not seen that problem in a while.

Can you guys posts some log files from http://www.tomcoyote.org/hjt please?

[Spammer]

Shadows kills

I have all of the display options maxed. Running 1280x1024 32bit. (Except) If I turn up shadows past low I get 2FPS. I ran a skirmish with insane difficulty and got to a point where there were a gazillion units on the screen. No they weren't mine, I got my ___ kicked.

[Jellico_28]

[QUOTE=lexx790]I have the same kind of problem when ever i scroll it gets choppy no matter what settings i put the game and PC at the choppy game play is still there.

The only time there is no choppy scrolling is when I pause the game and scroll.

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exactly!!!

couldn´t have said it better.
Graphik: Nvidia 61.77
NForce Win2XP 4.27
Win 2000
AMD XP 2200
here is my warning.log


W40K started at 2004-09-26 22:54
OS NT 5.0, 512MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS
WORKING-DIR E:\Programme\THQ\Dawn of War
USER Administrator

22:54:58.1 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=AMD Athlon:f=6,m=8, Mode=SSE
22:54:58.2 GAME -- Warhammer, 1.00, Build 57117.44353
22:54:58.2 GAME -- Available memory: 511MB RAM, 1965MB Pagefile
22:54:58.7 State::State - set socket send buffer to 131072
22:54:58.7 State::State - set socket receive buffer to 131072
22:54:58.8 Session : Now Host
22:54:58.8 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
22:54:59.1 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
22:54:59.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900
22:54:59.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE Device = 0x0331 SubSys = 0x93701462 Rev = 0x00A1
22:54:59.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x1821 (6177)
22:54:59.3 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4071-11CF-F36F-7AB300C2CB35}
22:54:59.5 SPOOGE -- 238.00MB available texture memory
22:54:59.5 SPOOGE -- 238.00MB available texture memory
22:55:00.2 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:55:01.7 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
22:55:03.8 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
22:55:03.9 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
22:55:05.0 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
22:55:05.4 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
22:55:05.9 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
22:55:05.9 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Full'
22:55:05.9 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'
22:55:15.2 GAME -- Using player profile Jellico
22:55:27.6 GAME -- Ending FE
22:55:27.7 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
22:55:28.2 SPOOGE -- 237.00MB available texture memory
22:55:28.2 SPOOGE -- 238.00MB available texture memory
22:55:28.4 GAME -- Available memory: 511MB RAM, 1965MB Pagefile
22:55:28.4 Session : Now Host
22:55:28.4 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
22:55:28.6 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
22:55:28.7 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900
22:55:28.7 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE Device = 0x0331 SubSys = 0x93701462 Rev = 0x00A1
22:55:28.7 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x1821 (6177)
22:55:28.7 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4071-11CF-F36F-7AB300C2CB35}
22:55:28.8 SPOOGE -- 235.00MB available texture memory
22:55:28.9 SPOOGE -- 235.00MB available texture memory
22:55:29.1 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:55:30.3 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
22:55:30.4 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
22:55:30.4 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Full'
22:55:30.4 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'
22:55:38.2 GAME -- Using player profile Jellico
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading badge 'space_marine_race/ultramarines' for player (0)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading banner 'space_marine_race/UltraMarine' for player (0)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading badge 'eldar_race/Saim_Hann' for player (1)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading banner 'eldar_race/Saim_Hann' for player (1)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading badge 'eldar_race/Ulthwe' for player (2)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading banner 'eldar_race/Ulthwe' for player (2)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading badge 'ork_race/BadMoons' for player (3)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading banner 'ork_race/BadMoons' for player (3)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading badge 'chaos_marine_race/WorldEaters' for player (4)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading banner 'chaos_marine_race/WorldEaters' for player (4)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading badge 'space_marine_race/ravenguard' for player (5)
22:56:11.0 Skirmish - loading banner 'space_marine_race/RavenGuard' for player (5)
22:56:11.0 APP -- Game Start
22:56:11.0 GAME -- Ending FE
22:56:11.0 GAME -- Beginning mission 6P_TESTING_GROUNDS (1 Humans, 5 Computers)
22:56:11.1 GAME -- Recording game
22:56:13.6 MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/STRATEGICOBJECTIVE.SCAR)
22:56:13.6 MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/ANNIHILATE.SCAR)
22:56:13.6 MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/CONTROLAREA.SCAR)
22:56:15.0 GAME -- Preloading all models
22:56:15.7 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
22:56:23.6 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
22:56:51.4 GAME -- Precaching Events
22:57:31.3 GAME -- Loading completed (80 seconds)
22:57:31.3 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
22:57:31.4 GAME -- Starting mission...
23:09:23.5 MOD -- Game Over at frame 5579
23:10:34.6 SimulationController::Pause 1
23:10:38.9 GAME -- Ending mission (Game over)
23:10:38.9 SimulationController::Pause 0
23:10:55.7 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
23:10:58.1 SPOOGE -- 235.00MB available texture memory
23:10:58.1 SPOOGE -- 235.00MB available texture memory

Application closed without errors

[Bl00d_R4VenS]

same thing i was talking about all those weeks ago but those persistent fanboys kept rattling about it being my hardware....well there u have it now

[terrific]

same thing i was talking about all those weeks ago but those persistent fanboys kept rattling about it being my hardware....well there u have it now

Well, i dont think there's much else we can do. Just wait for a patch. Lol, the only application installed on my fresh formatted pc is DOW and its still laggy. I'll trust in relic to have a patch ready in short order because this problem is so wide spread that its obviously not just our PC's.

[Jellico_28]

Well, i dont think there's much else we can do. Just wait for a patch. Lol, the only application installed on my fresh formatted pc is DOW and its still laggy. I'll trust in relic to have a patch ready in short order because this problem is so wide spread that its obviously not just our PC's.

true......hoping for a patch....

do you have Nforce Motherboards?

[ÜberJumper]

How will a patch help this if the problem is not identified so they can fix it?

I'm not sure why you guys are getting the choppiness, but I do know a lot of systems don't have it.

[Geist]

As i've said before i get it aswell.

Pauzing the game = smooth
Running it = uber choppy

Amd XP 2000
Geforce 4 ti 4800 SE
SB audigy
1 gig DDR ram

[Davezor]

Geist, id say your CPU just isnt up to the task. When the game is running there are a lot of AI calculations going on, when its paused id imagine, funnily enough, things like AI, physics, scripting etc. arent running. So all the work is being done by the graphics driver.

I do notice the framerate dips when there are a lot of units onscreen doing all their animations, fighting, idle, shooting etc. but thats to be expected.

[Geist]

Yes thats what i concluded, the ai in this game must be taking up a crazy amount of resources. Im glad that i can upgrade soon...

[terrific]

Geist, id say your CPU just isnt up to the task. When the game is running there are a lot of AI calculations going on, when its paused id imagine, funnily enough, things like AI, physics, scripting etc. arent running. So all the work is being done by the graphics driver.

I do notice the framerate dips when there are a lot of units onscreen doing all their animations, fighting, idle, shooting etc. but thats to be expected.

My p4 2.4 ghz isnt up to the task either? Just what do you need to run this game a 3 ghz processor? I failed to see that in the recommended system specs. Also, there are other users on these froums with specs that are 1/2 that of my pc and running it smoothly.

[ÜberJumper]

Which is why it'd be great if we can identify the software or configuration that's causing the problem.

Can you post your graphicsconfig.log file please Terrific?

[deKboi]

ive also had this problem and what bothers me the most is that its not in the demo , i reinstalled the DOW demo and tada! no choppyness. So the only it could possibly be is somesort of a bug or script error

[general griff]

ive also had this problem and what bothers me the most is that its not in the demo , i reinstalled the DOW demo and tada! no choppyness. So the only it could possibly be is somesort of a bug or script error

Hi all

Just to put my two penneth in. I have a 3000xp and a (soon to be replaced) 6800GT. Ive noticed the choppiness when scrolling too. I am using 65.76 beta drivers though. Here is my warnings.log file and my graphics.log file


W40K started at 2004-09-27 21:31
OS NT 5.1, 1024MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS
WORKING-DIR C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War
USER Jim Griffin

21:31:59.9 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=AMD Athlon:f=6,m=10, Mode=SSE
21:31:59.9 GAME -- Warhammer, 1.00, Build 57117.44353
21:31:59.9 GAME -- Available memory: 1023MB RAM, 3951MB Pagefile
21:32:00.1 State::State - set socket send buffer to 131072
21:32:00.1 State::State - set socket receive buffer to 131072
21:32:00.1 HostState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
21:32:00.1 Session : Now Host
21:32:00.1 Session : We are now a Host
21:32:00.1 PeerState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
21:32:00.1 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
21:32:00.1 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
21:32:00.2 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
21:32:00.7 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
21:32:00.7 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE Device = 0x0045 SubSys = 0x21031682 Rev = 0x00A1
21:32:00.7 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x19AD (6573)
21:32:00.7 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4305-11CF-9F6C-090100C2CB35}
21:32:00.8 SPOOGE -- 346.00MB available texture memory
21:32:00.8 SPOOGE -- 346.00MB available texture memory
21:32:01.1 GAME -- Beginning FE
21:32:02.2 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
21:32:05.7 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
21:32:05.7 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
21:32:06.5 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
21:32:06.5 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
21:32:06.5 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
21:32:06.5 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Med'
21:32:06.5 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'
21:32:13.5 GAME -- Using player profile Inq griff
21:32:18.4 APP -- Game Load
21:32:18.4 GAME -- Ending FE
21:32:18.4 GAME -- Beginning FE
21:32:18.5 APP -- Game Start
21:32:18.5 GAME -- Ending FE
21:32:18.5 GAME -- Beginning mission savegame29 (1 Humans, 5 Computers)
21:32:21.8 GAME -- Preloading all models
21:32:21.9 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
21:32:23.0 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
21:32:23.6 GAME -- Precaching Events
21:32:30.3 GAME -- Loading completed (12 seconds)
21:32:30.3 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
21:32:30.3 GAME -- Starting mission...
21:34:59.1 SimulationController::Pause 1
21:35:03.2 SimulationController::Pause 0
21:35:04.7 SimulationController::Pause 1
21:42:20.0 SimulationController::Pause 0
21:43:45.6 SimulationController::Pause 1
21:43:50.0 SimulationController::Pause 0
21:49:04.1 SimulationController::Pause 1
21:49:08.0 SimulationController::Pause 0
21:52:24.8 SimulationController::Pause 1
21:52:34.3 SimulationController::Pause 0
21:56:32.8 SimulationController::Pause 1
21:56:36.8 SimulationController::Pause 0
21:56:38.6 SimulationController::Pause 1
21:56:48.5 APP -- Game Stop
21:56:48.5 GAME -- Ending mission (Abort)
21:56:48.5 SimulationController::Pause 0
21:56:49.1 GAME -- Beginning FE
21:57:09.5 GAME -- Ending FE
21:57:09.5 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
21:57:10.1 SPOOGE -- 345.00MB available texture memory
21:57:10.1 SPOOGE -- 346.00MB available texture memory
21:57:10.3 GAME -- Available memory: 1023MB RAM, 3951MB Pagefile
21:57:10.3 HostState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
21:57:10.3 Session : Now Host
21:57:10.3 Session : We are now a Host
21:57:10.3 PeerState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
21:57:10.3 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
21:57:10.3 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
21:57:10.4 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
21:57:11.4 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
21:57:11.4 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE Device = 0x0045 SubSys = 0x21031682 Rev = 0x00A1
21:57:11.4 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x19AD (6573)
21:57:11.4 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4305-11CF-9F6C-090100C2CB35}
21:57:11.5 SPOOGE -- 354.00MB available texture memory
21:57:11.5 SPOOGE -- 354.00MB available texture memory
21:57:11.7 GAME -- Beginning FE
21:57:12.9 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
21:57:13.0 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
21:57:13.0 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Med'
21:57:13.0 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'
21:57:21.3 GAME -- Using player profile Inq griff
21:57:31.3 APP -- Game Load
21:57:31.3 GAME -- Ending FE
21:57:31.3 GAME -- Beginning FE
21:57:31.4 APP -- Game Start
21:57:31.4 GAME -- Ending FE
21:57:31.4 GAME -- Beginning mission savegame29 (1 Humans, 5 Computers)
21:57:35.0 GAME -- Preloading all models
21:57:35.1 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
21:57:36.3 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
21:57:36.9 GAME -- Precaching Events
21:57:52.5 GAME -- Loading completed (21 seconds)
21:57:52.5 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
21:57:52.5 GAME -- Starting mission...
22:07:57.7 SimulationController::Pause 1
22:08:03.2 SimulationController::Pause 0
22:08:04.7 SimulationController::Pause 1
22:08:06.3 APP -- Game Stop
22:08:06.3 GAME -- Ending mission (Abort)
22:08:06.3 SimulationController::Pause 0
22:08:06.8 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:08:22.9 GAME -- Ending FE
22:08:22.9 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
22:08:23.5 SPOOGE -- 353.00MB available texture memory
22:08:23.5 SPOOGE -- 354.00MB available texture memory
22:08:23.7 GAME -- Available memory: 1023MB RAM, 3951MB Pagefile
22:08:23.7 HostState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
22:08:23.7 Session : Now Host
22:08:23.7 Session : We are now a Host
22:08:23.7 PeerState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
22:08:23.7 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
22:08:23.7 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
22:08:23.8 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
22:08:24.8 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
22:08:24.8 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE Device = 0x0045 SubSys = 0x21031682 Rev = 0x00A1
22:08:24.8 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x19AD (6573)
22:08:24.8 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4305-11CF-9F6C-090100C2CB35}
22:08:24.9 SPOOGE -- 360.00MB available texture memory
22:08:24.9 SPOOGE -- 360.00MB available texture memory
22:08:25.1 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:08:26.3 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
22:08:26.4 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
22:08:26.4 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Med'
22:08:26.4 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'
22:08:34.7 GAME -- Using player profile Inq griff
22:08:40.6 APP -- Game Load
22:08:40.6 GAME -- Ending FE
22:08:40.7 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:08:40.8 APP -- Game Start
22:08:40.8 GAME -- Ending FE
22:08:40.8 GAME -- Beginning mission savegame29 (1 Humans, 5 Computers)
22:08:44.3 GAME -- Preloading all models
22:08:44.4 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
22:08:45.5 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
22:08:46.1 GAME -- Precaching Events
22:09:02.4 GAME -- Loading completed (22 seconds)
22:09:02.4 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
22:09:02.4 GAME -- Starting mission...
22:09:18.9 SimulationController::Pause 1
22:09:25.7 APP -- Game Stop
22:09:25.7 GAME -- Ending mission (Abort)
22:09:25.7 SimulationController::Pause 0
22:09:26.2 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:09:34.5 GAME -- Ending FE
22:09:34.6 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
22:09:35.2 SPOOGE -- 359.00MB available texture memory
22:09:35.2 SPOOGE -- 360.00MB available texture memory
22:09:35.4 GAME -- Available memory: 1023MB RAM, 3951MB Pagefile
22:09:35.4 HostState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
22:09:35.4 Session : Now Host
22:09:35.4 Session : We are now a Host
22:09:35.4 PeerState - 192.168.100.11:6112 / 192.168.100.11:6112
22:09:35.4 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
22:09:35.4 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
22:09:35.5 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
22:09:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
22:09:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE Device = 0x0045 SubSys = 0x21031682 Rev = 0x00A1
22:09:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x19AD (6573)
22:09:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4305-11CF-9F6C-090100C2CB35}
22:09:36.2 SPOOGE -- 354.00MB available texture memory
22:09:36.2 SPOOGE -- 354.00MB available texture memory
22:09:36.4 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:09:37.6 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
22:09:37.7 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
22:09:37.7 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Med'
22:09:37.7 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'
22:09:45.6 GAME -- Using player profile Inq griff
22:10:17.0 APP -- Game Load
22:10:17.0 GAME -- Ending FE
22:10:17.0 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:10:17.1 APP -- Game Start
22:10:17.1 GAME -- Ending FE
22:10:17.1 GAME -- Beginning mission savegame29 (1 Humans, 5 Computers)
22:10:20.5 GAME -- Preloading all models
22:10:20.6 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
22:10:21.7 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
22:10:22.3 GAME -- Precaching Events
22:10:38.2 GAME -- Loading completed (21 seconds)
22:10:38.2 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
22:10:38.2 GAME -- Starting mission...
22:17:51.9 SimulationController::Pause 1
22:17:56.0 SimulationController::Pause 0
22:17:57.2 SimulationController::Pause 1
22:26:00.7 SimulationController::Pause 1
22:26:02.0 GAME -- Ending mission (?)
22:26:02.0 SimulationController::Pause 0
22:26:02.5 MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
22:26:02.6 SPOOGE -- 354.00MB available texture memory
22:26:02.7 SPOOGE -- 354.00MB available texture memory

Application closed without errors


what the hell is spoooge? I only have 256mb of mem on my card :argh:. I didnt have the choppiness when scrolling when in a skirmish map online, so maybe it is a fault of the AI in single player.


I think some caution is needed here though. If you guys are intent on maxing out the entire build tree with maximum space marine squads and tanks and dreadnoughts ANY system is going to get choppy. There is simply too much going on for your processor to take, even those of you with 3.8ghz pentium 4's with 6800's in.

You are simply running out of clock cycles. This game is a SKIRMISH RTS like warcraft3. Play it as such and you wont notice the lag so much. That said the choppiness is noticeable when the screen isnt so busy, so a compromise is required oh heres the graphics.log UBER.

GRAPHICSCONFIG started at 2004-09-26 22:03
OS NT 5.1, 1024MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS -rungame
WORKING-DIR C:\PROGRA~1\THQ\DAWNOF~1
USER Jim Griffin

22:03:46.7 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=AMD Athlon:f=6,m=10, Mode=SSE
22:03:46.7 Graphics Configuration Utility

Application closed without errors

Lets work the problem gents

[ÜberJumper]

Spooge is just the name of the graphics subsystem I think... the total memory there is also how much is allocated in main memory as well.

Can you rerun the graphicsconfig utility please? It looks like it's not been run.

[Totmacher]

Spooge is just the name of the graphics subsystem I think... the total memory there is also how much is allocated in main memory as well.

Can you rerun the graphicsconfig utility please? It looks like it's not been run.

Yep - SPOOGE is the graphics layer that sits on top of DirectX 9.0b. The total amount of memory it reports is "usually" your video card memory + memory configured to be AGP addressable by your AGP Aperature size. You generally want the reported amount to be x2 the amount of RAM you have on your video card, if not higher.

[terrific]

Which is why it'd be great if we can identify the software or configuration that's causing the problem.

Can you post your graphicsconfig.log file please Terrific?

Sure

GRAPHICSCONFIG started at 2004-09-27 07:11
OS NT 5.1, 1024MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS
WORKING-DIR C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War
USER Appleseed

07:11:20.2 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=INTEL Pentium-IV:f=15,m=2, Mode=SSE
07:11:20.4 Graphics Configuration Utility
treetransform.c/543:!SHAD -- Parsing [shader.txt] compiler script.
07:11:35.6 SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
07:11:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = ati2dvag.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = RADEON 9800 PRO
07:11:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x1002 Device = 0x4E48 SubSys = 0x00021002 Rev = 0x0000
07:11:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x195A (6490)
07:11:36.0 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71EE2-0D08-11CF-E86A-0820A1C2CB35}
07:11:36.6 SPOOGE -- 169.00MB available texture memory
treetransform.c/543:!SHAD -- Parsing [ati.txt] compiler script.
07:11:36.6 SPOOGE -- 169.00MB available texture memory
07:11:51.3 FPS -- Start: 18.448, End: 31.036, Duration: 12.588, Frames: 600, FPS: 47.664
07:11:51.3 SPOOGE -- 156.00MB available texture memory
07:11:51.3 SPOOGE -- 157.00MB available texture memory

Application closed without errors




Keep in mind, those drivers are the new beta ATI 8 drivers that came out today. Before i was using the latest cat 4.9's. I tried those new '8' drivers just to see if they would help. Unfortunatley the same problem

[ÜberJumper]

Terrific, what's your agp aperture set to? 128 MB?

[general griff]

Yep - SPOOGE is the graphics layer that sits on top of DirectX 9.0b. The total amount of memory it reports is "usually" your video card memory + memory configured to be AGP addressable by your AGP Aperature size. You generally want the reported amount to be x2 the amount of RAM you have on your video card, if not higher.

Well 384mb is wrong then mines 256mb card. should my spooge be 512?

[thelivingend]

i'm having the same problem as you, my pc is athlon xp with radeon 9100.. guess i'm going to return the game to the store ;-)

[general griff]

[QUOTE=thelivingend]i'm having the same problem as you, my pc is athlon xp with radeon 9100.. guess i'm going to return the game to the store ;-)[/QUOTE

Coupled with the blue screen crash, this is adding up to quite a thread. Im having this trouble too http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...288#post579288



UbeR? Can you shed any more light on this AMD issue relic are investigating please?

[Jellico_28]

now it is much much better!! not perfect but a lot better!

what i have done:

i had the demo on my system. Demo in D:\DOW Demo - Game in a different folder D:\DOW

i uninstalled everything - defrag - reinstall and patch 1.01

now it is fine

[terrific]

Terrific, what's your agp aperture set to? 128 MB?

lol, its been set all over the place to try and fix this, from 16MB all the way to 512 nothing makes a diff.



EDIT: Just for grins i tried the MS AGP driver fix for other problems that are listed on the forum. No luck. Never tried the pause button thing tho. Sure enuff it is smooth as silk when paused and i end tasked EVERYTHING running, aside from system services. This is a bug with the AI/CPU for sure.