Fudged textures on some units

[Trevatd]

The textures on some units (Space marines are one example) get all...broken, they swirl untill I zoom in VERY close. This is not having a huga affect since you can barly see it anyway. But at mid-zoom it shows up alot.

[ÜberJumper]

Trevatd:

That's a result of how the different quality textures are made. Running the game with high textures will alleviate some of that.

Essentially it's by design.

To confirm, post a screenshot of the issue.

[Pergamos]

I have noticed the exact same issue. If you zoom in just enough for the texture to work right yet scroll away a little from the object that is having texture problems it shows up too. So basically it must be a function of object to camera distance. I imagine it is supposed to switch to a lower res texture when you zoom out to increase game speed, but that lower res texture is garbled in some things, like the Choas Temple for me. Some parts are "smeared" and even transparent when they should not be. I haven't tried adjusting the setting to see if that clears it up, but it seems like a bug that needs to be worked out at some point.

[gandjak]

i have the same problem !
i play with high quality textures and the textures of all buildings and units are bugged
i have a geforceFX 5700 256 mo

[ÜberJumper]

Pergamos, if it's the same thing I think it is, it's not a bug, just the LoD system kicking in.

Gandjak, post your warnings.log file if you're having problems.

[gandjak]

W40K started at 2004-09-26 22:28
OS NT 5.1, 1024MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS
WORKING-DIR F:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War
USER Cuervo jones

22:28:13.9 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=AMD Athlon:f=6,m=10, Mode=SSE
22:28:13.9 GAME -- Warhammer, 1.00, Build 57081.44324
22:28:13.9 GAME -- Available memory: 1023MB RAM, 1260MB Pagefile
22:28:14.1 State::State - set socket send buffer to 131072
22:28:14.1 State::State - set socket receive buffer to 131072
22:28:14.1 HostState - 82.226.49.189:6112 / 82.226.49.189:6112
22:28:14.1 Session : Now Host
22:28:14.1 Session : We are now a Host
22:28:14.1 PeerState - 82.226.49.189:6112 / 82.226.49.189:6112
22:28:14.1 PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
22:28:14.1 GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
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22:28:14.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll Device = \\.\DISPLAY1 Desc = NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700
22:28:14.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE Device = 0x0342 SubSys = 0x814F1043 Rev = 0x00A1
22:28:14.3 SPDx9 -- Driver Version Product = 0x0006 Version = 0x000E SubVersion = 0x000A Build = 0x1820 (6176)
22:28:14.3 SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4002-11CF-D36B-45A100C2CB35}
22:28:14.3 SPOOGE -- 302.00MB available texture memory
22:28:14.3 SPOOGE -- 302.00MB available texture memory
22:28:14.8 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:28:16.0 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
22:28:18.2 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
22:28:18.2 MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
22:28:19.6 MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
22:28:19.7 MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
22:28:19.8 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
22:28:19.8 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Med'
22:28:19.8 MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\Low'
22:28:23.0 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
22:28:23.0 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
22:28:23.4 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
22:28:23.4 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '97836' doesn't exist!
22:28:27.2 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '4594' doesn't exist!
22:28:28.5 GAME -- Using player profile Gandjak
22:28:37.0 APP -- Game Load
22:28:37.0 GAME -- Ending FE
22:28:37.0 GAME -- Beginning FE
22:28:37.2 APP -- Game Start
22:28:37.2 GAME -- Ending FE
22:28:37.2 GAME -- Beginning mission savegame7 (1 Humans, 5 Computers)
22:28:40.4 GAME -- Preloading all models
22:28:40.4 RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
22:28:40.9 GAME -- Applying Team Colours
22:28:40.9 LOCALIZER -- Requested string ID '9077' doesn't exist!
22:28:41.6 GAME -- Precaching Events
22:28:49.4 GAME -- Loading completed (12 seconds)
22:28:49.4 SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
22:28:49.4 GAME -- Starting mission...
22:29:02.6 SimulationController::Pause 1

Application closed without errors

here it is

[ÜberJumper]

Well, you've got a pre-release verison of the 61.77 Forceware drivers, that might cause problems. Try updating to the latest.

After you do that, can you post a screenshot of the problem?

[Nutter]

It's actually the model detail level that causes the textures to be screwed up - running at 'high' model detail should fix it.. but of course, it requires a faster CPU and video card.

[Trevatd]

First problem, It's allready set to high

I'm running a Radon 9800 Pro.

512 ram

[Pergamos]

It's actually the model detail level that causes the textures to be screwed up - running at 'high' model detail should fix it.. but of course, it requires a faster CPU and video card.

No offense gentleman, this a great game and I thoroughly enjoy it and know a lot of effort was put into it, but to tell me that I have to pay $400+ for a new cpu and video card is ridiculous. Sure enough when I set EVERYTHING to high it went away, but on my regular settings most textures are fine, only a few are screwed up. If that is "the way it is meant to be" it sounds like someone is getting lazy considering that most textures work fine(not trying to point a finger at anyone in particular). I play lots of other games and at lower detail levels they don't have these issues. Sure it doesn't look as pretty but to have textures flat out screwed up looks...amateur. I sure hope someone will decide it is worth fixing in a patch. I have:

2.4 P4
512mb DDR3200 ram
Ti4600 (128mb ram)
SB Audigy
XP Prof.

which exceeds the recommended specs, something doesn't add up here...

[ÜberJumper]

Nutter's also explained the process for how the textures were made for the various LoD models in another thread if you're interested in how they did it.

Something about taking the high quality textures and then scaling them down for each different LoD level. Due to the nature of the automatic texture conversion, or rather the change in the model's number of polys, the textures lose their mapping to the various points on the model, so they can look slightly skewed.

I'd really like to see an example of the skewed textures, as I've not seen them yet (I usually play with the camera in one fixed zoom level, so I'm not seeing the popping, also I am playing on the highest settings as well).

[Trevatd]

wait...Do'h! Eveything ws set to high BUT model detail. *Smacks forehead* Yeah It went away, but its almost impossible to play on multi or use the orcs.

[Pergamos]

Ok lets hope this works although it may be a bit big. This is only one example but you can see the skewed texture and the transparency on the right "door" there. In one of the SP mission one of the fleeing children gets this large brown spike until you zoom in (which looks kinda funny).



That dynamic texture system sounds great (I bet a nice bit of coding) but clearly has a few bugs to work out yet.

[ÜberJumper]

Pergamos, can you post your warnings.log file please?

[Pergamos]

Here she is:

W40K started at 2004-09-26 23:09
OS NT 5.1, 512MB Physical Memory
RUN-OPTIONS 
WORKING-DIR C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War
USER Robert

23:09:10.5   MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=INTEL Pentium-IV:f=15,m=2, Mode=SSE
23:09:10.5   GAME -- Warhammer, 1.00, Build 57117.44353
23:09:10.5   GAME -- Available memory: 511MB RAM, 1200MB Pagefile
23:09:10.5   State::State - set socket send buffer to 131072
23:09:10.5   State::State - set socket receive buffer to 131072
23:09:10.5   HostState - 192.168.0.4:6112 / 192.168.0.4:6112
23:09:10.5   Session : Now Host
23:09:10.5   Session : We are now a Host
23:09:10.6   PeerState - 192.168.0.4:6112 / 192.168.0.4:6112
23:09:10.6   PeerState::ConnectCallbackHost - connecting to host at 255.255.255.255:6112
23:09:10.6   GSTransport::Connect - GT2AddressError
23:09:10.7   SPOOGE - Driver[Dx9 : Hardware TnL] on adapter[0], version[4,32]
23:09:10.9   SPDx9 -- Driver Name = nv4_disp.dll  Device = \\.\DISPLAY1  Desc = NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
23:09:10.9   SPDx9 -- Driver Vendor = 0x10DE  Device = 0x0250  SubSys = 0x87251462  Rev = 0x00A3
23:09:10.9   SPDx9 -- Driver Version  Product = 0x0006  Version = 0x000E  SubVersion = 0x000A  Build = 0x1628 (5672)
23:09:10.9   SPDx9 -- Driver GUID = {D7B71E3E-4110-11CF-FA61-2FA702C2CB35}
23:09:11.2   SPOOGE -- 234.00MB available texture memory
23:09:11.2   SPOOGE -- 234.00MB available texture memory
23:09:11.5   GAME -- Beginning FE
23:09:12.7   MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
23:09:14.0   MOVIE -- Closing movie 'movies:relic_intro.lua'
23:09:14.0   MOVIE -- Opening movie 'movies:dow_intro.lua'
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23:09:14.5   MOD -- (mod manager) W40k, 1.0
23:09:14.6   MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'
23:09:14.6   MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Med'
23:09:14.6   MOD -- (mod manager) Failed to load Folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\Low'
23:09:23.2   GAME -- Using player profile Pergamos
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23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading banner 'ork_race/EvilSunz' for player (2)
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23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading banner 'chaos_marine_race/Nurgle' for player (3)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading badge 'ork_race/Snakebites' for player (4)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading banner 'ork_race/Snakebites' for player (4)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading badge 'space_marine_race/spacewolves' for player (5)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading banner 'space_marine_race/SpaceWolves' for player (5)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading badge 'chaos_marine_race/IronWarriors' for player (6)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading banner 'chaos_marine_race/IronWarriors' for player (6)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading badge 'chaos_marine_race/WordBearers' for player (7)
23:10:03.9   Skirmish - loading banner 'chaos_marine_race/WordBearers' for player (7)
23:10:03.9   APP -- Game Start
23:10:03.9   GAME -- Ending FE
23:10:04.0   GAME -- Beginning mission 8P_DATURIAS_PITS (1 Humans, 7 Computers)
23:10:04.0   GAME -- Recording game
23:10:06.6   MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/CONTROLAREA.SCAR)
23:10:06.6   MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/STRATEGICOBJECTIVE.SCAR)
23:10:06.6   MOD -- Loading Win Condition(DATA:Scar/WinConditions/ANNIHILATE.SCAR)
23:10:07.5   GAME -- Preloading all models
23:10:07.9   RENDER ANIM -- Art/EBPs/: Unable to open file!
23:10:12.1   GAME -- Applying Team Colours
23:10:43.0   GAME -- Precaching Events
23:11:02.9   GAME -- Loading completed (59 seconds)
23:11:02.9   SIM -- Setting SyncErrorChecking level to Low
23:11:02.9   GAME -- Starting mission...
23:11:59.1   SimulationController::Pause 1
23:12:02.3   APP -- Game Stop
23:12:02.3   GAME -- Ending mission (Abort)
23:12:02.3   SimulationController::Pause 0
23:12:04.6   GAME -- Beginning FE
23:13:42.1   GAME -- Ending FE
23:13:42.2   MOD -- (mod manager) shutting down
23:13:43.7   SPOOGE -- 232.00MB available texture memory
23:13:43.7   SPOOGE -- 233.00MB available texture memory

Application closed with error code -1

Is it saying that I have 56.72 drivers? I installed the most recent ones and the device manager says they are 61.77...odd. I looked at my settings and the texture problem in my case is from having model detail at low (the graphic utility set it at that). Switching it to medium solves it. So I guess I won't need any new hardware at least.

[ÜberJumper]

Hmmmm yeah it does say the old drivers... you might want to get that sorted out. Try to reinstall the 61.77 ones if you could.

[gandjak]

i have installed the last drivers for my video card and nothing changes
here a screenshot


Double Post

damn pergamos you was right, i'm a foolish stupid guy fogetting to configure the game's graphics options BEFORE playing. Sorry for eveything love this game
(low details textures are ugly)

[Pergamos]

damn pergamos you was right, i'm a foolish stupid guy fogetting to configure the game's graphics options BEFORE playing. Sorry for eveything love this game
(low details textures are ugly)

Hehehe, I'M the one who played the whole single player campaign with the model textures on low! You might want to check your options, it looks like yours has some shadows on. From what I have read on these boards shadows slow things down a bit. Mine had shadows on medium, so I will turn mine off to improve performance. You might try it and see if it speeds things up (which might let you run higher detail for other settings).