Starcraft:ghost is to be soon out, please tell us what you think of to new blizzard console game.
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Starcraft:ghost is to be soon out, please tell us what you think of to new blizzard console game.
#2
All your base are belong to us.
#3
If it has Xbox Live or really good multi, I'll probably get it when I learn more about it.
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#4
What do you mean tps game?
Not meant to be...not meant to be...
Damnit Blizzard, give us strategy, not some rip-off 3rd person shooter!
However, it does look quite decent, but my advice is that you should wait for a bunch of thrustworthy reviewers to see if it's any good.
Starfisher, what? please stay on top people don't blurt out Warcraft III cheats.
#6
I think it will be overhyped and underinnovative, but develop a rabid fanbase. Much like other Blizzard games, I suppose.
Initially, it looked like a Splinter Cell type game, but then it turned into something more action oriented, which is the same sort of spoil as the way the original WC3 concept of party-based team combat was destroyed in favor of the gameplay model that actually shipped.
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#7
Ghost can go to hell. I demand Starcraft 2 and not to look like utter shit or such like Warcraft 3. I want SC2 to have an engine that is as pretty as DoW, because frankly I hate the models/textures/animations in the Warcraft 3/FT. They look like crap compared to other games and modders who do a better job.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
#8
No.
#9
Erm... I quite disliked the War III story. I find homeworld: Cataclysm to have a far better story.
I used to have this horribly obnoxious flickering avatar, but thankfully Moe fixed it for me.
#10
Hmm, let's see if another one does the trick.Starcraft:ghost is to be soon out
Someone set us up the bomb!
Well, i am going to fix my earleir reply, in my OPINION warIII is the best RTS out there!
It also has the same graphics as warhammer ive played and seen first hand
Now, lets please sty on the original topic, no more of topic comments please.
#12
Define good. If you mean gameplay and replayability, we won't know until release. Blizzard isn't known for making shooters, so you can't go back and look at past games and make a determination on their strength in shooter games.
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#13
By the way you are likely to piss people off with all those "please stay on topic" comments. The posting style here in GD is a bit more relaxed, the occasional funny or witty comment is perfectly normal.
To address your question, I really don't care, as I do not own any kind of console and don't plan on buying one. If they were to port it to PC I might be interested... but I'd read a lot of reviews before making the purchase.
PS: WC3 graphics are years older than those of DoW, saying that they are equal is simply not true.
#14
That assertion can be disproven simply by looking at the model polygon counts.It also has the same graphics as warhammer ive played and seen first hand
#15
Originally Posted by Zungai
Zungai, just because something is in WC3, that does not mean it is FROM WC3 originally. What Starfisher was saying has nothing to do with WC3.
And about the graphics, I am very sorry to tell you that you are wrong. If you have any knowledge of gaming technology and graphics as many people on this board do, you can immediately know that WC3 graphics aren't even half that of DoW.
Oh and in terms of OPINION, you suck.
P.S. OMG I have become Bnonn.
#16
I forgot. Yeah, I don't have a console. I have a xbox, but I don't use it much anymore.
Perhaps if they'd care to make a PC version.
Ok, fine stay on topic this isn't some joke, and by good i meant good gameplay, and u can disagree with my opinion, but don't insult me for it, u can't judge me by my opionion, and to me that graphics are just the same, i ahte warhammer and i like warIII better, if i ahd DOW i would burn it from my life so i wouldn't be caught with something so gay I don't mean to dis the programmers, but the entire storyline of the gme sucks to me.
PS:5th elephant don't say the name of god in vain, it offends me.
PS:2: I don't like to be dissed so either stop, or i will diss u, and no more WARIII cheats starfisher, and yes Starfisher did have a meaning behind his posts, i asked him nicely to saty on topic but i am sick and tired of everyone letting people like him get away with stuff like that.
#18
Gameplay of wc3 = 2+ decades old. Besides sucking. Horribly.
ghost is console only? Good. It won't be desacrating the holy grail of PCs anytime soon.It'll definalty force all the blizzard fans to buy xboxes/ps2 though...A pc version isn't welcom. you hear that blizzard? NOT WELCOME. Not By me.
I'm not interested, and abolish anything from blizzard. I dont really care how much polish it has, their games suck ass, aren't inovative and <insert extensive rant about blizzard, sc, wc3 ect> and i dont really care about anything they've done. SC is a dow rip-off anyways. tau/similar-protos, marines-space marines, zerg-tyranids (sp?).
Click my siggy for more info about a real RTS.
*mildly disgusted with negative price discrimination*
#19
Zungai, while I am sorry that you are offended by my writing the word 'god', you have to realize you are on the internet, and you are going to see stuff like that ALL the time. So get used to it.
Also, I find it VERY rude when people call things 'gay' in the way you did, no matter what it is, even if I don't like it, you are using a derogatory term right there.
Threatening to 'diss' someone back is no way to get anywhere in life, or on this forum for that matter (life and this forum are mutually exclusive).
Starfisher was not posting a WARIII cheat, he was writing something that came a long time before WARIII, probably from before you were born by the way you write.
Oh and to go back to the original thing there, yes we can judge your opinion because your opinion here is the equivalent of saying 2+2=5. It is simply wrong. If you don't understand that analogy, I apologize.
This is the internet Zungai, as they say: When in Rome...do as the Romans.
#20
Oh dear god.
Ok, first off - you apparently managed to miss the whole All Your Base Are Belong To Us craze. It was an internet phenomenon, and was then picked up and used by the Blizzard Devs as a cheat code, presumably because they thought it was funny.
Next, how can you possibly use the word "gay" the way you did and then claim to be insulted by someone's usage of the word "god" in the extremely widespread acronym "omg"?
Also, and I hate to tell you this, but you won't last. You need to seriously develop a thicker skin, these forums are like a sheltered harbor compared to the rest of the internet. I strongly suggest you learn to deal with other people's opinions and the way they are expressed, or you will have a really hard time on the 'web. That's not a threat or anything, I'm merely stating a fact.
#21
/me applaudes Moe.
Edit: Awww the /me thing doesn't work anymore.
#22
This is a public service announcement.
Welcome to the internet. If you easily offended, plz exit by going to the back of your computer and pulling out all the cords. Do not reattach any of them at any point in the near, far, or distant future. This has been a public service announcement.
SC:Ghost? It will be whatever it wants... I'll just wait to see if it turns out decent.
If it's a good game, I'll buy, if not, I'll spend my dollars elsewhere.
Death holds no fear only for the fool. An Astartes' duty is to control that fear and turn it into a blind hatred of the end of his life, for it brings with it the inability to fulfil his duty to the Emperor.
#24
buy the game, sure but buying the console for it as well? [assuming you dont own crappy consoles...]
#25
Oh, and SG:G is going to lick pouch, like all Blizzard games before WoW. The End.
#26
Heh, this might get vault worthy if it survives.
I was insulting your grammar. It reminded me of the translation that spawned the AYBABTU craze, so I posted that to see if anyone would see what I saw.
You then flew off the handle in a most amusing way, which means I win. Had you simply ignored it, or perhaps understood the reference and laughed good naturedly, all would be well. Instead, you have filled my day with mirth.
So this is for you, Mr. Can't Survive the Internet! *breaks open a Bud Light*
#27
What's SG:G?
Stargate...erm...Goat-eating...erm...gua'ulds??
"Lick pouch" as in, you give lots of moneys for lots of crap? I agree.
Ditto on the vault part.
#28
1) Not only is Starcraft:Ghost a console FPS, it isn't even being made by Blizzard. You might as well start a topic asking if any of the dozens of other FPS's in development right now will be good. You don't even post links to any site where we can get more information on the subject. So yes, this topic IS a joke.
2) Warcraft 3 is among the worst pieces of tripe ever to be shoved down the throats of gamers. It actually devolved the genre with its intense focus on ridiculous micro and utter paucity of innovation. It is the caffeinated RTS equivalent of most FPS games. We'd have been much better off if someone had sat blizzard execs down and beat the holy hell out of them just after Brood War was released.
3) Don't go on a game company's forum and insult their games unless you know most of the community agrees with you. In this case it means IC is fair game, and (occasionally) taking a shot at HW2 will be permitted. There's plenty of evidence that DoW is a damn fine game by all accounts, so you're pretty much pissing in the wind here.
4) Zomg stop P0s7ing W4rI1I Che3ts!!1!
Wait. No, no that's just a meme. You fail teh internet.
Ah, here we go. FYI: the entire first page of a google search for "warcraft 3 cheats" turns up just that. Starfisher isn't exactly sharing nucular secrets.
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In other news, you know what you're doing, take off every zig!!!
#29
I wager that we should just wait and see. People's perceptions of whether Starcraft Ghost will be good, on this forum anyways, are more likely to reflect their opinions of Blizzard than of Ghost.
Remember: you're a blogger. Pretense is your co-pilot.
#30
It's really more like 1 decade ago. It's argueable that DoW's and GC2's gameplay has roots in even older gameplay models, we're talking about late 80s here.Gameplay of wc3 = 2+ decades old. Besides sucking. Horribly.
It's just not used as often and far more refined.
Anyways, that was just me REALLY splitting hairs
#31
People's opinions are less likely to reflect solely on Blizzard here, hence the large number of Warcraft 3 haters who see the game for the inadequate lump of code it is. If you don't believe me, ask this question on a more Blizzard-friendly site and count the "I've never even seen it but I know it's going to rock!" responses.
Aaaahhh yes, Blizzard is mentioned and everyone starts attacking. Nice to see open minds and tolerance for other peoples views.
To say again what I say every time you sad people attack Blizzard: Their games are good. Many people play them, and I enjoyed them all. Some people enjoy things you don't, that's not reason to start your little Blizzard hating clubs. It's getting tiresome and even more annoying then the rabit Blizzard fans. The only funny part in it is that you can't see that you are being exactly like the rabid Blizzard fans that you dislike so much. You say "OMG BLIZZARD ARE TEH SUX!!!" They say "OMG EVERYTHING NOT BLIZZARD IS TEH SUX!!!"
And the reasonable people sit there and shake their heads and weep for humanity, because if people like you are the future, then humanity's death started at your birth.
As for SC:G I've heard mixed thoughts on it, but I don't own a console so I won't be getting it nor playing it.
PS: I dislike DoW ... so you are in fact wrong. It is not a "damn fine game by all accounts." Yay you like it, you want a cookie? Doesn't mean everyone likes it. Yay you don't like anything made by Blizzard ... want another cookie? Doesn't mean everyone hates everything made by Blizzard.
Besides, I've yet to get an answer from anyone on why WC3 is such a bad game ... taking into acount that it is old. It is not a god (Unlike me) and it is a game. The best I've heard was that it's the players that make the game bad ... and I can accept that a lot of the players are stupid, but how does that make a game bad? Just don't play with the stupid people.
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#33
Split hairs are bad, you should use better shampoo or conditioner.
#34
hmmm...Starcraft Ghost....
Knowing Blizzard, they're a good company with excellent support and known for their polish in most of their games (even if I wasn't too fond of Warcraft 3, it was quite well polished).
On the OTHER hand, the game's NOT developed by Blizzard. Blizzard's publishing it but Swingin' Apes is developing it. So Blizzard polish MAY be non-existant.
It could go both ways. On one hand, it could be the next Half-Life in Stealth games OR it could be the next Daikatana.
Either way though, it'll get loads of good review DESPITE the content and rabid Blizzard fans would buy it and say "It's teh best game evar!!!!" despite however it turns out. When it comes to Blizzard games, I DON'T trust the mag reviews. The last time I did, I was disastisfied. (coughcoughWarcraft3coughcough)
PS. Warcraft 3 graphics are DATED when you look carefully. DOW's engine is surprisingly smooth despite really hot looking. The number of polygon counts in Warcraft 3 is equivalent to a model from Quake 1. Dawn of War's models are equivalent to Half Life 1's models. So I doubt that Warcraft 3 is "equal" in terms out graphics compared to DOW. (Maybe you've been playing with low graphical settings?)
Also, if you think DOW sucks, then explain the reviews that gave it a range from 79%-90%? About the same scores as Blizzard's games.
#35
Personal opinion?Also, if you thinkit sucks, then explain the reviews that gave it a range from 79%-90% About the same score as Blizzard's games.
#36
And here comes the fanboys. I think I'll cut this off at the source.
Blizzard has, in the past, made good games. Warcraft 3 is a good game. It is also, in terms of evolving the genre, a monstrous affront to nature. This comes as no fault of its own, but as a result of the dozens of second-tier game devs and thousands of rabid fanboys being convinced that the best RTS is the one that most efficiently rehashes the same ground trod for nearly a decade. Did blizzard make a bad game? No. Did they drop the ball when they had an opportunity to show some creativity in game design? Yes. See, if you're the industry leader, in my mind you have an obligation to lead.
But that's neither here nor there. The ridicule directed at the author of this thread stems from his assertion that a) Warcraft 3 is godly and b) DoW sucks. Especially insulting is the fact that his addled mind feels it is qualified to make such a designation when he does not own DoW, and apparently is not even aware of cultural cliches from two years' back.
You will recall from the previous argument we had over this, loco, that what really gets my goat are the fanboys who have the temerity to claim a game is unequalled without ever considering the competition. I own War3 myself. I honestly tried to like it for months. I can't - mostly because I can't find one thing in War3 that wasn't present in a previous game, and I value innovation very highly in my gaming experience.
If "reasonable people" include the creator of this thread and yourself, we may sorely need a flood. Or two, just to be sure.And the reasonable people sit there and shake their heads and weep for humanity, because if people like you are the future, then humanity's death started at your birth.
#37
I personally like Dawn of War just as much as WarCraft III, only now I've worn out my fun from WarCraft III from thoroughly playing it.
I'd buy StarCraft: Ghost, but the fact that they're abandoning the PC community with it has led me to boycott Blizzard until I see a PC version. t.t
#38
Exactly. Every review out there is bias to some degree. Your best bet is to try out the demo and see for yourself.
Oh. One more thing:-
Blizzard: All your base are belong to us. You other games have no chance of survive. Make your time. Hahaha.
#39
We are so not going there,unless you feel like doing AYB with Shad, Tacit, and Blizzard
#40
I was really looking forward to starcraft ghost. Blizzard has made some excellent games, i own all but wow and diablo (not sure how i missed the boat on that one). However after numerous delays and the dev studio (the game was not being developed by blizzard rather they were there as consultants and qa) that was working on the game being thrown out of the loop... well it got tiring. If it gets good reviews and i have the chance to play a demo on an oxm disk i will definately buy it, but as of right now though... the chances of that seem bleak due to some of the recent press that has been filtering through.
btw just some blast from the past history.. i find it quite amusing how people have such hate for blizzard... when it fact starcraft was actually quite a fan favorite at the relic offices when homeworld was being made.
#41
yes i think it will be good. No it won't be revolutionary or Blizzards best game in years. No i won't buy an xbox just so i can play it. Yes i hate all games that are not released for PC(especially those with Zealots in them! Fokkers, i really wanted to play it!)
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I honestly don't understand why people hate Blizzard games.
Yes, blizzard isn't innovative. Blizzard is known for their abiltity to perfect and balance. And warcraft 3 is a love it or hate it game. It's a game of micro, if you like micro you will like War3; If you don't like micro you won't like War3(I personaly enjoy micro.). Starcraft and War3 are two completey differnt types of RTS, Starcraft was macro, and War3 is micro. But to not like either is sheer fanboyism. They make good games, not innovative ones. Blizzard leaves that to relic, then takes their idea makes it perfect releases a game and makes the idea mainstream. Honestly the hero idea wasn't mainstream till blizzard, and I rather enjoy the hero system to some extent.
#43
Zungai: Warcraft 3 did have a good stary based campaign mode so if thats what you buy RTS games for then yes, it is a superior game to DoW. However DoW is intended to be an enjoyable multiplayer experience...and most people on this board will agree that in this area it is superior to warcraft 3, to say otherwise on these boards is simply being deliberately confrontational - and we already have a troll. Also, if you play Warcraft 3 on maximum settings and compare the graphics to DoW on minimum settings DoW still comes out on top. This is simply due to the relative age of the two games, no doubt the next Blizzard RTS will have superior graphics to DoW - technology moves on. Anyway, all gamers should realise that good graphics are entirely secondary to good gameplay...fortunately most people are more than satisfied with both in DoW. Finally, if you dont even own DoW you arent in a great position to pass judgement on it.
About saying "the name of god in vain"...I can only assume that you were being sarcastic, noone who uses the word "gay" in the manner that you do could possibly be offended by someone saying "oh my god". If you actually are offended by it then I suggest you stop using internet forums...for example I am offended by the suggestion that theres an all powerful entity who expects me to spend my time worshipping him, but I manage to control myself whenever a christian makes a religious post.
Back on topic: I was initially interested in SC:Ghost when I first heard about it but as soon as I learned that there was not going to be a PC version I immediately lost interest. I have never felt the need to buy a console...and it will take more than one game to make me change that view.
It could well be a decent game, however Penny Arcade leads me to believe that the game has moved away from being a Ghost doing sneaky covert operations and is now more of an action game which could still be fun but is less likely to be a memorable game in my opinion (pure action games tend to be surpassed by the next round of graphical enhancements, a game with atmosphere and inovative gameplay can stand the test of time much better).
I just hope that they dont continue the SC storyline with ghost (having its single player set during the starcraft and broodwar campaigns rather than afterwards) as I am looking forward to playing the likely starcraft 2 if for no other reason than to continue the storyline (which is also superior to warcraft 3's storyline).
#44
Sam Fisher or Nova in hawt tight leather...?
SC:G -> WIN.
#45
Man.. and people were complaining about Karan S'jet's boobies..
#46
Jesus. That redefines wedgie.
#47
Do they make all the male ghosts wear the same stuff?
Maybe the Terrans are a secret race of bondage enthusiasts.
#48
lol. I wish they'd stop making women as skanks.
As for Starcraft Ghost, it'll die like C&C Renegade. Sorry for the bubble bursting, the premise is the same: a FPS set in a RTS universe with new units.
But C&C is still alive and running. Even though it was abandoned by EA. Just look at Renguard and the two major mods that were made for it. (RenAlert and Reborn)
Ghost could go the same way, it might have a short life but a lasting small community.
Time will tell.
#50
purely because its based off of starcraft it will survive, from the patronage of starcraft and cs morons.
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