[FYI] Update: Nov 27/2009 ! DoW WiP Mods + Mod Quality List + Other..

[thudmeizer]

It was delayed for a week as we made it v1.30 compliant so the AI would work far better under v1.30 then it did a week ago. Certainly thats worth a week delay?!

We plan to have a more aggressive release schedule as we've already delays v1.2 for well over a month. It was, however, worth it considering our AI only a week ago was real lackluster under v1.30. Now that its 85% close to what it would be under v1.20 we're quite QUITE pleased. :bandit: Release should be within 2 days.

[TheBladeRoden]

mm, I think my mod is like Howard Dean in Feb. 2004.

[Kjon]

just remove my mod (Depth of Heresy) its been cancled of my list at the moment mainly 'cos converting them to the new file format is to time consuming

[thudmeizer]

ust remove my mod (Depth of Heresy) its been cancled of my list at the moment mainly 'cos converting them to the new file format is to time consuming

Hey guy... how is it timing consuming when all other mods are doing it? Have you asked for help? The new fileformat is 5-10x better for us all: game runs a helleva lot faster under v1.30 then it did for v1.20 now! Loads faster! I think we need someone to help you convert over. It took the Cadian team only half a day to do it.

[Kjon]

lol

if you dont mind dont call me 'guy'. Though im a male 'kjon' is fine. :P

But if someones nice enough of help convert it to 1.3 format then i would love your help
also

been cancled of my list at the moment

For the moment maybe if enough people want to play it or i have time i'll start it back up

[thudmeizer]

Lets see.. Compiler or UltDrake will help you with the conversion. They have know how its done. It would be superb, kjon, to add your mod to the community. You are after all covering an important part of War40k.

[CoRporis]

If I get giskard's permission I'm gonna try to rivive the maxunit mini mod... I like bigger battles myself & find the 20 cap is lower than what suits me. I've already have an alpha, just need to iron out the caps jumping up with faster than they should. I'm totally new to this stuff so any help/suggestions would be nice.

[zurn]

Half-Scale Mod is healthy and complete, works with DoW 1.3.

[thudmeizer]

Update: Made some new changes to "LIST FOR MOD QUALITY" in points # 2 and # 22 (d).

ALL DoW MOD TEAMS PLEASE READ THIS LIST!

[EdCase]

Might I suggest you make Horus Heresy healthy again

I have the models..they WILL be animated...and they will be coded..even if I have to pimp out my services to get a coder. :fright:

[thudmeizer]

Edcase - there is no activity on your site mentioned in my grand list. Public needs to know whats going on there. Even some quick screenies. So glad to hear yer still progressing!

[thudmeizer]

Update: Added #25 to the Mod Quality List - it regards watching for affecting other textures\colours on the various units of the vanilla factions.

[alf]

Hey thud.. Dawn of Heresey is up and running again at:
http://www.xv15mods.com/heresy/index.php

[thudmeizer]

Updated!

[Teleport]

Any chance of a list of completed mods?

Perhaps the same list but with a % complete figure next to each title.

Thanks

[thudmeizer]

Well.. logistically, how do you quantify completion and discuss it logically with all the participating mod teams? Not easy.. Each one of its leaders/coordinators/directors would have to PM me and let me know % of total completion. However, I can tell you v1.3 of our Advanced Skirmish AI is now 100% complete and finishing dox and to be packaged. :bandit:

[alf]

that prolly won't happen dude... its real tough to gauge a mods completion...

[Tyconius]

If someone needs voice actors, this is a good site to find some

http://www.voiceacting.co.uk/board/

[thudmeizer]

Updated:

Added the Necromunda Mod and dropped other mods down to Inactive as they aren't showing signs of movement.

[Kresjah]

I just wanted to let you know that the Honour the Astartes mod is not dead. It's just temporarily on halt, simply because my machine is in a galaxy far far away (or should I say, on the other side of the country).

It will be revived when I get my machine back, which will at latest be within the end of the month. At the current moment, I am focussing on doing work for the Horus Heresy mod too.

Anyways, just to let you know, it ain't dead... and when I do get my machine back, work will probably go better than before

[thudmeizer]

Thanks Kresjah - glad you keep in touch with the DoW community. I know yer in transition at present in your life so honoured to have you back within the fold. Please let us all know when yer set. Hope its around expansion time in less than a month: too much going to happen with WA releases.

[Jinxter78]

Hm, I see that Rebirth mod is not included on your list

http://s13.invisionfree.com/Dawn_of_War_Rebirth

[Gorechild]

W00t at our necromudna mod..

Im also putting up flyers at local animation section of university.. its possible students could be into TT and even other fantasy type stuff..

thanx guys for the linsk also..

[thudmeizer]

Added!

Btw.. cool idea Gorechild! Maybe if there are more available the DoW community could use additional 3d talent! Always welcome!

[Gorechild]

well one main problems wit hthsoe sites is.. peopel might be lookign for money.. =(

[Kresjah]

thud: Still haven't been able to get a job. Negative replies only so far, and it's starting to look dark... there are only so many firms around I won't give up though!

My 2-3 months that I was allowed to live here is starting to catch up (actually, it's 2 months today, heh), so it means I have to find another place. An aunt of my girlfriend has offered me to stay with her, and it has been said that I could stay there for a long time. Not that I plan to stay there long, I'd rather get a job and my own place and not live on everybody else, but it means I don't have to move back.

On the DoW side of all this, it means the following: The aunt doesn't have a PC, so I'll have to travel back home and fetch mine (meaning I can get serious work done). However, she doesn't have broadband (why should she need it without a PC?), so that means I'm stuck with either buying a 56K modem, or using my cellphone as a modem... limited internet connectivity, not to mention activity from my side.

This doesn't mean that I can't upload and download mods. All I need to do is either take my memory pen or some CD-R's and visit my girlfriend. Since they have broadband (and since this is the place I am writing this very post from, hehe), I can download and take it with me from here.

I am happy to be a part of such a community as this, and am looking forward to continue contributing to it. It'll be fun doing some modding again.

How are things going for you then thud? How do you manage to have time doing all this free work for the community with a small child at hand?

[thudmeizer]

How are things going for you then thud? How do you manage to have time doing all this free work for the community with a small child at hand?

Its going fine although being a Dad can suck alot - having a dependant drains time and also brain-power (stepping down to such low forms of communication and acting). Its fun sometimes, others its a serious burden. Little one is over 6months old. In that time I've totally enjoyed working in the DoW community and helped release 4 revisions of the AI project. I need this diversion or I'd go mental. Most time when little one goes to sleep @ 8:30pm I have a good solid 4-5 hours of coding and testing each day. Some more some less but the biggest lifesaver is work. I'm an IBMer so we can have slow periods so I code/script ALOT there and it really saves me time!

So family life is okay. We're talking about a second child but I am by no means ready for one let alone getting through this first one. Its hell. Makes me wonder how the heck civilization survived these untold millions of years rearing offspring. Gawd! Not sure I was mentally/psychologically ready for it. Still determining that. Yer in such hi-tech surroundings then to come home to reduce yourself to a lower state is a bizzare switch. Plus the burden of sitting at home sooo wishing you could go out with the guys every 3-4 days or even remembering the singles life. <sigh> Sometimes I reevaluate the fact of being lonely and if it really is a bad thing? Hey.. I'm a modern man with so much media trite shoved down our throats here. Its a over-indulgence of brain-stew that caters to the fact that being single, successful, and young is good and anything else sux.

Anyway, I'm glad the DoW is like another home.

[thudmeizer]

Added:

Space Marines - UltraMarines

Edit: New Forums (maybe temporary) for Tyranids

[terra_01]

Thud, a quick suggestion in regards to mod quality: strategy. In regards to current DoW races, each has its own unique take on combat/battle. ie Orks = close combat/swarm Eldar = quick/ranged combat. Mods which are trying to incorporate new races/factions should consider the existing races' tactics/special abilities and try to come up with a general take on what their faction/race is good at based on what codex (or non-codex) material the mod-team is dealing with.

[thudmeizer]

Mods which are trying to incorporate new races/factions should consider the existing races' tactics/special abilities and try to come up with a general take on what their faction/race is good at based on what codex (or non-codex) material the mod-team is dealing with.

Thats per mod roundtable discussion in the design phase. The Mod Quality is the "spit and polish" last 1-2 months before release. If you don't know the overall personality of your DoW mod well in advanced before the first public beta then yer in deep trouble anyway. Normally, mod teams know exactly what their aiming for early on and code for it based on the game engine's constraints. My list compromises the final mile.

[thudmeizer]

Update: Added Custodes of Holy Terra

[shrp]

Repost from http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=71980

http://www.user661.wz.cz/dow_speech.zip

The file above contains all races, each one is provided with overviews and some additional info.


If you are going to assembe a team of amateur voice actors, here's some basic advice for them.

1. People tend to talk very monotonous into the microphone, some try keep the pitch low, some others high, but a strange robot-like intonation is typical. Give it some expression.

2. If something is supposed to be a scream, it better should be. Show no mercy to your neighbors, in the name of the Emperor, it must be done. If you don't scream for real, it doesn't sound realistic. There's no way to evade this law, no matter if you're a proffesional or not.

3. Try to avoid loud S, T, B, P .. simply consonants. The closer the microphone is, the more it tends to capture "wind sound effects" - breath and air movement produced by the actor. These consonants are hardly audible over larger distances so making them the loudest part of the speech will definitely prove unpleasant. All of this can be reduced in postprocessing but it's easier to avoid than to correct mistakes.

4. Keep your distance from the microphone. This is closely related to all balance issues with consonants and volume. You can remove all the troubles of trying not to sound like talking into someones year by not talking into it. 20-30 cm should be ok for a dynamic microphone.

5. Do not apply audio effects to the voice unless you really know what you're doing. This is best left to be done by the sound guy of the mod or someone else in charge of processing all the voices. There's nothing worse than incoherence in communication of your army.

6. Once you record a phrase, play it few times to see if there anre no disturbing elements that would make it useless for repeated playback.


While designing the speeches for your units, please put the following things into consideration:

- The most used units should have the most sounds.
- The most used feature of the unit should have the most sounds and they better be short (not like cultists).
- Long phrases won't bother you if they're assigned to "attach" or "detach" squad for example.
- Make sure to declare a way the sound files are gonna be named before the project is started. The average number of sounds per race is 546.75!
- If you plan to ask for help with the design, you need forums with many visitors - some WH40k forums not related to DOW may prove useful as well.
- If you plan to ask for help with the voice acting, you need forums browsed by people with the proper equipment - amateur musicians, sounguys, voice actors.
- By the time you ask for help with the voice acting, your design documents for the actors should be finished
- Let your voice actors record few phrases and send them to you so you can decide who is going to do this and that. Otherwise you may end up with 15 dreadnoughts, 20 land raiders and no infantry at all. And who would like to be a servitor?

[thudmeizer]

Thanks Shrp.. that'll be useful to the mod makers as a voice checklist and template.

[bloodthirster90]

hey thud!
why is the warhammer fantasy mod (mine) in the unhealthy section? we are working, we just aren't posting on the boards alot. it's more behind the scenes work we are doing. sorting out the numbers for damage etc...
And BTW, I think you've been doing a diamond job on everything! keep it up!

BT90

[thudmeizer]

Hey BloodThirster... usually if there is no activity or "mod marketting" going on its easy to feel that the respective mod is inactive. Usually a little screenshot teaser here and there helps go a looonnng way!

[bloodthirster90]

You are actually using the wrong link to the forums. we have a different one now. it's here

[thudmeizer]

Updated to new link!

[Messenger]

Here is a developing mod in need of modellers and animaters and texturers.
Mod site:
http://eoamod.forumsplace.com/index....9a32b210926922
Support Forums:
http://s11.invisionfree.com/warlordgrubnatz/index.php

[Finaldeath]

I am moving this to the uncompleted mods forum, a similar sticky containing completed mods will be posted in the completed mods forum today.

This'll be, if kept updated, a list of current uncompleted mods

[thudmeizer]

Thanks FD! Its certainly a list useful for the community especially as WA arrives and more people are back from the year-long slumber.

[p0seidon]

hey thudmeizer can you add the black templar mod by me and A7X.

[thudmeizer]

Update: Added SM - Black Templars Mod!

How can you say no to a Emperor's Champion and Landraider Crusader?!? W000t!

[Krass]

Please can you update Full_scale mod :
- new Mod released under WA,
- new thread : http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=75235

Thx

[thudmeizer]

Do you have an official website?

[Krass]

not for the moment, maybe if I can set up one....

[thudmeizer]

Thanks..

Remember: TO ALL DoW/WA Mod teams:

o Market yourselves (advertise your existence and keep people knowing that!)
o Keep the community interested with teasers (show a little but not too much and not too frequently)
o Update Update Update !
o Make Progress - keep your team mates happy and focused! Work on aspects of the mod when others are idle (ie. waiting for mod tools..)

[thudmeizer]

Update: Fixed Tyranid website.. New Forums point to new location!

[hangar-8]

o Market yourselves (advertise your existence and keep people knowing that!)

To that, I have a mods page for just that. A 480x60 banner, blurb and links gets you space.

[Finaldeath]

hangar-8, it'd be a good idea to post a link to where they can apply (email or somesuch) and an example page that you have up so people can see. I'm sure smaller teams would greatly apprechiate it!

[thudmeizer]

Hanger is doing a superb job for our Banner.. Looking mighty pro! Will release it when done.