Hide and Seek with Eldar BS!

[IceCream]

All the games Ive played Im sick of Eldar Hide and seek bullshit.It always happens on 3v3 map on Kaysr lutien map.Last night won a match against a eldar player,wasted my time this was on QS though.My allies and I took over a half an hour looking for this sore loser.All he did was take his builder units jump around the map building HQ's.

Plus I was playing orks and that race dosent have many units to spot cloak units or buildings.Relic put a timer like end of the game.Like if other team has three players loses two,end of the game sets a timer like 5 minutes.

All their units will be uncloaked and the view of the whole map seen by the enemy player.Like what WC3 did they had a timer end of the game so other players wont play hide and seek bs.Maybe just give the Races more units that can spot cloak buildings or units like give the sqaud leaders to spot cloak units.Eldar Players please don't play this BS anymore its annoying as hell you lost at least leave the game with some respect.

[Grabnutz]

Yeah, I hate when they do that.
The thing is, what if before it starts 2 players on the same team drop, but the remaining all agree to play on to see how long the remaining player on the lessened team can stay around for?

[Vespire]

Or they can take control of their units like in WC 3.

[Viq]

This is why you play something like Control Area or Take and Hold...

[Titler]

I had someone do this to me just before Christmas; he'd obviously joined the game just to be an idiot (Nazi banner too), and it took nearly 30 minutes to find all his bases. Of course, back then I didn't know how to effectively track him down. Now I do, so do the following;

1.) Build lots of units, anything will do, you only need one unit which can spot hidden things.
2.) Send a few capping to all the points so you can get LPs up; in particular, grab any of his left up first to stop his requisition.
3.) Scatter any unit at all to the dark spots on the map, aiming to reveal it all, and leave them there. Don't reinforce, go for maximum squads.
4.) LISTEN CLOSELY. Cloaked Eldar buildings make a pinging noise, and any unit near them can hear them.
5.) Send your hero, or any unit with an attached infiltration spotter over to kill it.
6.) If you've got team mates, get them to do the same.
7.) Workers trying to tun around the map will run into scattered your army, or LPs and be shot. Even if they aren't, if they build there, you'll hear them.

Shouldn't take you more than a few minutes to find all his stuff and smash it. There's a replay buried deep in the Battle Archives somewhere of a 2 v 2 v 2 v 2 game I played where the last eldar, who was to be fair being a good sport and not trying to annoy me, laughed and said he'd hidden stuff for me to find... took me less than a minute simply sending units to LPs and listening as they went, to find his hidden LP and base on the other side of the map. It's annoying as heck at first, I admit. But it's easily counterable.

[IceCream]

thx for the other advice some I knew but I knew the Pinging noise I was clicking around on the map and didnt find any noise the reason he didnt finish building his HQ.

[Esrhan]

Should we call a waambulance? Now seriously, you can easily sweep the map if he goes on a run like that. Divide your forces a bit, listen to the ping sound, read Titler's post and so on.

And yeah, DoW is a Take & Hold game especially with bigger games.

[ThE|MaFiA]

Right punishment for those whom play annihilate only =)

[noise_pollution]

If you dont like take and hold, at least choose control area victory. it wont change the game too much.. if a team has 2/3 of the strategic points, it will win the game anyway :P

[JunkyMonkey]

The thing that puts me off Control Area and Take and hold is how Orks building there HQs right on top of Critical Locations
and eldar with their warp gates and then turret spam

I'd like to see it so you can't build inside a certain radius of Critical Locations

[Thousand_Guns]

With Control Area (I think that's the one where you get the majority of strategic points) you shouldn't have the problem of eldar turtling on the crit locations.

[[Vertigo]]

Use take and hold as well as annihilation when making games to prevent the Eldar player from jumping all over the map.

[Aussiemoo]

what do you mean orks build their HQ's on top of crits...you can do that?!

[IceCream]

double check

[Thalasion]

Should we call a waambulance?

I second that, play take and hold.



Seriously, IceCream, do you do anything but whine?

[$gtPopp3r]

unfinished buildings aren't rendered invisible by shroud.

[IceCream]

wtf me whine no piss's me off yes.Trying to make the game more fun than spending a whole godamn half an hour finding a sore loser when I can be playing more games.Also some host don't do take and hold and if I host a game people bitch "I don't like take and hold it takes away me whiping out the whole enemy".

Last thing

Seriously, IceCream, do you do anything but whine?

Look around you, count how many post are just like mine,I bet you are a eldar player that does hide seek bullshit.What I don't have the right ask how can defeat eldar bullshit and make the game more fun and less annoying.Also it's America this whole country bitches so get use to it.I hate people like when I try to make the game more fun people you just give negative comments.

[Esrhan]

Look around you, count how many post are just like mine,I bet you are a eldar player that does hide seek bullshit.What I don't have the right ask how can defeat eldar bullshit and make the game more fun and less annoying.Also it's America this whole country bitches so get use to it.I hate people like when I try to make the game more fun people you just give negative comments.

This is the first thread about the Eldar runners in some time now and where is this constructive contribution of your's to make the game more fun then? All I see is vague suggestions you've thrown from your head after 5 minutes of thought. A few persons here already gave you all the tips and tricks you need to sweep a map.

To end this, you're making a too big of a deal about it. You say it happens everytime on Kasyur Lutien which is exageration as well as ignoring that there already is a "game timer". It's called Take & Hold or Control Area. You got to let out some steam let us not go further in this and just drop it here. No need to throw every Eldar player in the same category and claim that this unnecessary delation of a game happens more often than it actually does.

[Dymo]

Look for the RED dots.

[Thalasion]

Look around you, count how many post are just like mine,I bet you are a eldar player that does hide seek bullshit.

In this thread? I count 2.

I dont even play DoW online, and neither do i play eldar very often.

About the whining coment, i just saw you whining about eldar and it reminded me of another stupid whiney thread that you made....

[IceCream]

Yah I thank them for the advice and it did help alot,but I don't throw suggestions every time I think of them or I would like a 100 post on this fourm.Yah by the way this eldar problem has been on my head for a while didnt want to post it on the fourms cuz I knew I would get flamed some how.All I was saying try to make eldar less annoying that's it and every time I play eldar they do the hide and seek bs.

But I was gonna let this thread die down since I got help to solve the problem but no one person wanted to make the negative comment and piss me off.Plus Ive only gave three suggestions and some people disagreed I tried to defend those suggestions of what I know.

You say it happens everytime on Kasyur Lutien

it can happen on other maps as well but Kasyur Lutien is the most popular map on dow and that's all I play on since my suggestion of adding a auto-download it's no big deal.

Also I know there is game timer take & hold but it takes the killing the whole enemy fun out of it.I don't see many games that have it.Im talking about the timer like when you kill them off and it starts automaticly not you have to capture CL to get it going.

i just saw you whining about eldar and it reminded me of another stupid whiney thread that you made....

that has nothing to do with DoW,that's for Table Top two different topics.I was trying to see if there was flaw in there and if they agree on it and firguring out strategy.What do you like look on every god damn post I do and call me whiney?

[Worf]

Indeed, this thread has outlived its usefullness.
Stop the flaming!