Gundam Mod v3.0 Formally Released

[zied12345]

:jaw::jaw::jaw::jaw: Good job AK, im speechless, the beam sabers on the denorbium actually work! and the missles, so many improvements in graphics and ship anatomy...wow

[Dyson]

I know its imposible, but this is insanely cool

http://www.gearsonline.net/gundam/oig/neueziel2.php

[Kou Uraki]

what?! what the hell are you talking about beam sabers?! i didnt see that on that link. show me!

[zied12345]

http://www.pixnet.net/displayimage.php?pos=-34946955
i think they are beam sabers, but im not sure. I think the big barrel is though

[Zerosystem]

I'm pretty sure they've just beam cannons that just "stab" the enemy.

Although, it is nice to have some (pseudo) melee combat.

The giant barrel is a beam cannon.

[wierdteaparty]

You can see the progression of the texturing of the ships in that picture, the Dendrobum just puts the Gwazine to shame.

[Kou Uraki]

no, i dont think that's beam sabers. i think that those are just ion cannons. are those 2 weapons underneath supposed to be beam sabers?

[Eric072691]

I think so.

[zied12345]

yeah, thought so, in the actual episodes, it did show the giant barrel as the beam saber... maybe you could set a slow ion cannon trajectory, and the denorbium could follow it to the enemy? is that possible?

[whitewolfmxc]

i got one very serious question to ask : since AK say 3.0 will be the final version , im asking AFTER 3.0 is out if he can like either give away free or sell the whole modding stuff ( including models and stuff) to someone so we can further on add stuff we always nagged for XD , but will either make it a newer version (but stated that that version onwards is not AKs responsability or statements like that) , or completely make a new mod out of it

if AK wants to sell it : please name a price , and if thats the case evryone here could have a say to this too

SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS AND AK think ?

[wierdteaparty]

I can't wait for gundam maps. I'm getting tired of playing on the Homeworld maps, they dont have the right feel for gundam with all the orange and reddish clouds and whatnot.

[milaoshu04]

Well, I think AK would like to sell the stuff to somebody, but just the models. And if you want to continue making gundam mod, PLEASE start a new project for your mod

[whitewolfmxc]

so your think AK wont let use use the original to make newer versions of this mod ? ( even thought there will be a clear statement in the mod that AK isnt responsabile anymore)

[Arvis Taljik]

Just FYI, the selling of copywrited material (Gundam is owned by Bandai, just thought I would point that out...) is illegal in all countries and could attract negative attention to this community. I don't want to see people ge sued over things like 3D models but if someone insists on selling them, then just don't say that I didn't forewarn them...

[Mad_Barber]

What is said by Arvis is true, mainly because of that and because mods are usually and should be free for the enjoyment of the community, not personal profit, but to prevent any further derailing of the topic, let's talk about more suggestions for the mod

[milaoshu04]

"PLEASE start a new project for your mod" don't you get what I mean by this?

[AK47_TZJ]

The following is to quote fromArvis Taljik 01-08-2006, 10:44 PM Of speech：
Just FYI, the selling of copywrited material (Gundam is owned by Bandai, just thought I would point that out...) is illegal in all countries and could attract negative attention to this community. I don't want to see people ge sued over things like 3D models but if someone insists on selling them, then just don't say that I didn't forewarn them...

Now and business related to at all! We at here the problem that discuss MOD. But is my manufacturings because of these 3 D model of, I have the right decision whether to your usage. But you didn't acquire my approval now.

If you want to construct the MOD of other GUNDAMs, asking you to restart so, the oneself makes 3 D model.If your really capable words.........

[whitewolfmxc]

Dont really follow what AK said , but i think he means he made the models himself so he has the right to do anything on it and he doesnt see it as a buisness (maybe his saying he wont sell it but give share with others), and if anyone wants to make another gundam mod they should also have the right to do it themselves ( thats what i think what AK said )

and yes i know what mailoshou said , but maybe you dont fully understand what im trying to say , its like the bases of that mod will still be this mod but some new features will be added ( exp GP02 will have buyable nukes , super weapon will be included , fortress and refinary stations will be added ect ect) , so its not a NEW mod its only a ALTERNATIVE MOD with some extra settings and features for some other palyers another choice , (its like that mod will be called gundam 0079 to 0083 mod 3.0 alternative version and there will be intructions that tell whats the main difference with this between the orignal and let the players choice what to install)

( and as i said there will be a state ment that said the folowwing things arent done by AK but others modding his mod , so players DO have a choice to play the orignal mod or that ALTERNATIVE MOD )

LAST i DIDNT say AK must have to sell it , its just a suggestion or option for him so DONT put words into my or AKs mouth

[Kampher]

Now and business related to at all! We at here the problem that discuss MOD. But is my manufacturings because of these 3 D model of, I have the right decision whether to your usage. But you didn't acquire my approval now.

If you want to construct the MOD of other GUNDAMs, asking you to restart so, the oneself makes 3 D model.If your really capable words.........

I know exactly what he said, and of course he has a right to aprove the use of his models.

What sickens me though, is that he is unwilling to share his work for the rest of the modding communities spread out for other games. We all love the gundam universe, and that's why we're here. What pushes my buttons, is that he feels his "Manufactured" models should only be used by others if he "Sells" his work.

Not only is it morally wrong to sell mod-made user created models to the public, it's also very illegal, based on the fact that he's breaking international copyright laws on behalf of Bandai.

All in all, I love this mod. But I don't like that attitude that AK keeps sending out by not allowing other's to expand on his work, and by his attempts at selling copyrighted material.

[whitewolfmxc]

AK just annoced that 3.0 will be prosboned till no one knows becasue of hard work in real life ( written in the 3.0 album site) , hope its not also because of the issue here , but lets still hope 3.0 will be out very soon

[Boshunter]

非常感謝你所做的機動戰士mod
真望你能儘快完成

我們支持你!!!!!


anyways, the wait will still be worth it
his team have done alot to make this mod
and I dont think we deserve to ask for more

[TrackBall]

Dammit stop talking all tabu, This is exactly the kind of stuff that brings out the vipers that shut down and lockaway such great works away because some stupid idiot asks a question that leads to dangerous questions and depending on where you live the pressures that bare down on you are not limited to the company you keep if you catch my drift. Furthurmore its continued nagging and going on about such stupid questions like this that put the very first gundam tc's away with the ark of the covenant never to see the light of day again. In other words show alittle common sense . If I were you Id stfu while Im ahead stop badgering the poor man and give him some breathing room for god sakes!

Course thats just my opinion and like all other opinions you can toss it in the can with all the others..


***jumps into bunker , puts on helmet and awaits Retort**

[whitewolfmxc]

now if your mean im that stupid idiot thats ok
(and im not even having any intension to do the things im suggesting , but since nobody brought up this question and its very critical for players who wants to go on with this mod i dare to ask this question), cause you dont know me and i dont know you so i forgive your rudness and not understanding

, but if you are calling me that because i asked a serious question and as paying respect to the developer of this mod by asking for their opion on the issue , then you not better than that word you threw out like garbage

(further more i was just asking if theres another way if this mod can be further developed , and i dont know why people think me or other people want to BUY this franchise AK made even AK himself also misunderstood my meaning and his words did hurt me and others here , im not going to mod his mod and change the developers name to mine and then sell it for my own profit god dam it
!!!!!!!

im just asking if we have the permission to mod his mod fo our own interest to play with im just being polite i can always do it secretly who cares to be polite these days but look what that guy get afterwards ?! the whole selling the models was just a saying its just a easier way for us to do the job but DOESNT STOP US FROM DOING IT and so actually it not even nessacary cause we are ADDING NEW STUFF TO THE MOD NOT CHANGING everything TO ANOTHER MOD but since AK said it once a long time ago i was just asking if that was his plans ,

besides i asked politely with respect not to gain personal profit or anything else , its fine for him not to share or others being mean here , i take it and eat it , thats what i always do.)

And this thread will be the last entry for me towards this others called stupid idiotic question brought up by me and will be ended by me , anyone else later post about this issue is none of my buisness thank you.

i guess this world doesnt need good polite peole afterall , ok got it ! thanks for that fact people.

[Arvis Taljik]

From the perspective of another game modder (I am an avid modder of the game Freelancer and I have both made and contributed to several mods out there for it) I always created mods and contributed to mods simply because I like to see the things I make add to other people's enjoyment of a game. Furthermore, I have NEVER denied permission to ANYONE to use the things (models, effects, etc...) that I've made because I like to see my handywork spread as far as possible. Even in the rare case that my work is "stolen", I merely ask the person who did so to give me credit for it and that's it. Being stingy, though it is AK's right to be and I am not denying that, is just plain rude in the modding world and really makes no sense. If someone's goal in making a mod is for personal glory then they should stop before they get further behind morally and psychologically.

To be honest, I share, and because of that I expect others to show the same courtesy. I don't share because I have to or because I want other people to think higher of me, but because it feels good and it's the nice thing to do. If someone wants to use a ship I made, or some sound effects I've edited, then they have only to ask and it's theirs for the taking. Besides, I have no claim to anything I've made really. I make models of ships that other people designed, and that appeared in movies; I'm just trying to recreate them for use in another gaming environment.

What else is kind of odd is the fact that AK is only one out of two modders I have ever met who was not willing to share their "products", information, or findings. Besides, if he didn't want other people to take his work then he never should have made the mod in the first place simply because there is nothing stopping someone from using a .BIG and .HOD extractor and yoinking it anyways. I equate this to putting $1 million in a bowl and allowing people to use it but expecting no one to steal from it. That is a contradiction in terms and that is also EXACTLY how I see this situation.

That's just my two cents. Someone please tell me if you think I'm off base or not. I would like to know what other people think.

[Shingen Shinobi]

AK and Milao don't want people to work off their mod. That's final, let's end this discussion.

[Shrimpcraft]

kids kids kids.... haha can we not get so tensed up in this argument or the flaming debate plz =) u see, i'm not just the only guy sitting behind the computer and reading all these stuff and laughing my @$$ off =D

another thing is, i think whoever translate AK's latest reply is also an airhead that led everyone into this heated misunderstanding :P

first of all plz refer back to page one of this thread XDDD.....as u can see:

Wanting finally what to say is: to not let I this year waste, also hoping to manufacture this MOD ability to me

Have the income.Now I decide to be whole to pack to sell: original manufacture document of this MOD.Wrap to expand 50 use

If" MAYA" the 3 D model document that creation come out, the picture document, liberal environment of DATA,( purchase, can be also

Pay all development tools of send this games, the first game enactment diagram gather, game inside the model that use 3 see the diagram etc..)

Please have the interest of friend contact me. My email is: ak4700001cn@yahoo.com.cn.

ak DO mean to sell this mod's source files and docs when this thing is all done. so next time dun just judge what ak said in the last reply and asume everything mmkay? :devil:

next: replying to what kampher means by being sicken by ak's "manufactured" part....haha u gotta forgive him and blame on bablefish ....if u happens to know 2 language (chinese and eng) and use bablefish to translate the same sentence from chinese to eng and vice versa (or even just using one of those chinese digital translation/dictionary machine ha), u'll be like me laughing pretty hard at the harsh translation that POS site can translate

lastly, u cant be sicken that he's not willing to share..... why dun u go make a petition in moddb to tell every mod group to just share their source code out for everyone? i understand a gundam mod is rare enough already and its good for him to share so others can 'use' it to help 'spread' the community...but why dont u create one from scratch like the majority of mod groups out there and compete with this mod if hes so stingy about sharing =)? i'm pretty sure ak if not milaoshu would give u advice if you're having problem creating one. i mean the gundam mod is no different than ur average hl2 mods out there where so many ppl are making them. heck, u should be grateful ur able to play such a mod made by someone cause quite frankly, i wouldnt imagine anyone have the guts to make a gundam mod for any game AT ALL cause most of them are just half assed or cancelled midway (except gundam century for starcraft cause thats just classic).

thats my $0.02. correct me if i'm off on anything.

so agreeing with mad_barber, lets get back on the suggestion for this mod =)

PS- if this discussion gets any further i'd just rather email him directly in chinese (no bablefish plz cause it'll just create more misunderstanding between the creator and his fans) and ask what is he really thinking then mmkay? =D

[milaoshu04]

Thx for understanding us Shrimpcraft
BTW, to whitewolf, some of your sugestion is already in our list, such as the core boosters used on WhiteBase

[whitewolfmxc]

happy to hear things are back on track , honored to know some ideas are taken in , juts do what you can and we will all be happy , my ideas are good but yes not all is easy to do , but as i always said fantasy ideas sometimes leads to rocket sience XD

May the force be with you all

[Bernon_Ge]

Just FYI, the selling of copywrited material (Gundam is owned by Bandai, just thought I would point that out...) is illegal in all countries and could attract negative attention to this community. I don't want to see people ge sued over things like 3D models but if someone insists on selling them, then just don't say that I didn't forewarn them...

@ Arvis Taljik

I agree with you, but it is strictly forbidden to even attempt is totally futile and is protected under the international copyright treaties, the person(s) involved in such an endeavor will most likely be sued by Relic Entertainment and Bandai, but I surprised that this pull by the Moderator/Administrator?? You can't sell a mod!!! That's my :2cents:

[Star Dragon]

Yeah over 4 years of selfless work and some *hole tried to sell FS2's The Babylon Project on ebay. Of course many people sent letters, but nothing ever came of it. There are always going to be bad apples trying crap like that unfortuantely.

Anyway you guys are great! Would you be interested in "Fin Funnels"?

I posted this long ago but my home community had no idea what it was (plus I suck!) this is the most ELABORATE model (and second one) I have ever done in 5 years or trying to model!!!

Fear me!



Imagine my surprise when a new member walks into the forums not 2 weeks after joining, sees my post and posts this!


Talk about a bit of jealousy Anyway thanks to Shadow0000 I now have fin funnels to wreck havock on your precious Zeons! (I did minor tweakage of the textures/mapping).

Is this something you can impliment or have planned on for the next release?

[milaoshu04]

Are you talking about this?


Well, I don't think Fin Finnle will be in our mod for it's only talking about things between 0079 and 0083, but there will be NT uesd MS/MA in ver.3.0, so you'll have other kind of finnels

[Dyson]

hope units are going to be cheaper... or battles will be reeeeeeeally short lol

[Luciora]

Hmm, wonder if this is a teaser for a possible 0093 conflict now.

[whitewolfmxc]

i just saw in the 3.0 album and saw a BLUE zaku r2 in the zeon album , im i seeing things or is it just for someone special ???

[Zerosystem]

You don't mean this, do you?

http://www.pixnet.net/displayimage.php?pos=-34945430

That's not a Zaku, it's the Kampher, from Gundam 0080.

I thought I recognized that red Gelgoog...

http://www.pixnet.net/displayimage.php?pos=-34946537

That's a ReGelg, from ZZ Gundam...

Why go so far? I'm still waiting for the transformable concept MS from Zeta.

[milaoshu04]

umm~~I think whitewolf is talking about the R2 for balck tri-stars, in the album AK just showed one of them

[whitewolfmxc]

but why isnt it BLACK then ? XD

http://www.pixnet.net/displayimage.php?pos=-35427826

and i saw the new picture for the whitebase core fighters , but is there the ones with extra bossters and beam weapon plus missle version like in the movies ?

[TrackBall]

Pherhaps theres been some revision to the skinning of the units to allow custom coloring of your side/team or somthing
btw In the game now anyone else notice you can change the afterbuner color by playing with those color schemes?

and if this is not the case I really hope this is not some premature attempt at goufs in space if for no other reason then that the suit at least to my knowledge was meant for on the ground warfare and not space. Dont get me wrong goufs in space would look cool(Noris Packard Style Only)
But no Im sorry that would just be wrong. Cool but No.

[milaoshu04]

sorry~~
I see~ you are talking about the new R2. It's a new kind of Zaku that you can put in to mass production, used to go against ms.

[TrackBall]

I know what it is and actually
I just thought and yes I know its stupid , I thought maybe since that blue color of the ms's is pretty much a bang match of the same color as a gouf and since no other mobile suits other than the Kampher and a couple of gelgoogs and 2 doms that it may have been a novel attempt at one.

I told you it was stupid.

and as for The Ms06R1's and R2's they were by the way never that vastly availible. they were in fact experimental Mobile suit's that while produced in sigifcant numbers(about 70 or so) & were so successful to have actually seen and been given the recognition they have. They were primarily given or sought after by ace pilots But despite its incredible popularity and high performance, the suit was considered too difficult for noob pilots to handle, as well as too expensive for a mass production run.
If this were not the case all those F2's and F2 Fritzhelms that are in the 0083 series would have been F2 Hi Mo's.

Oh and so there is no confusion about me saying "Hi Mo" Im just abbreviating "High Mobility" and not referring to those Zaku looking Annehime copy cats(HiZack I think) from zeta gundam.

So are you saying this is another version that will be included in 3.0 to compliment the other 4 variations in the game?

[whitewolfmxc]

hope they will have f2 and f2 Fritzhelms in 3.0

[zied12345]

Anyone there? havent seen a post for about 6 days

[Eric072691]

Still there.

[TrackBall]

yea I was expecting a detailed retort of some type and yet it goes unanswered like a hatchback at an intersection 3 in the morning and ur stuck on a redlight

[wierdteaparty]

If you guys want to see all the mobile suits from the oyw era including MSVs and customs colored suits for ace pilots go here: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/sh/g-explanation/ and go to 3d artworks.

[Zerosystem]

I can't wait for v3.0...

But before that, I would like for the mod's english portion to be spell/grammar checked...

Where's that GP03! I think the Feds need some more 'hero' units...

[Dyson]

feddies never had many "heroes" or "aces" they were just grunts with the power of the script they rely on numbers over quality, so I hope 3.0 will still have the same amount of "heroes" than 2.5

[Char Aznable]

I shall be hosting a three man game

Directions:
Load Gundam Mod 2.5

Click Multiplayer

Click Internet

Click Join

Type 21.245.86.80

Scratch that ..... ill be hosting it in 8 hours ... seeya then

[wierdteaparty]

maybe you should set a time instead of saying in 8 hours. How many english speakers play it online?

[Char Aznable]

Fine ... 10:00 Eastern ... happy :mrpantha: