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both things are important, firepower to pierce enemy armour and mobility to be a hard target, but "Jims" only have a slight advantage on speed an maneubrabiliity, both due to an almost complete lack of body armour. in my opinion zeon suits were more balanced, and gims were only a bit superior to zaku units, but at that state of the war, EFSF only sent a swarm of gm and capships, numbers made it, even at a high cost of feddy lives.
Dont know Mk V, but that smells to script power, man
That just how war works.
You are correct that below average script plagues the recent gundam series. (How many times can Kiro Yamato dies??)
That's why people keeps saying UC is heaps better than Seed Destiny and others. For the record, the good guys can and did lose in a fair few instances, like gundam F91 or the Flashing Halfaway (XI Gundam)
Anyway. Gundam series is not just about Sci-Fi stories, but more importantly the artwork behind it.
check this out for some REAL UC gundam
http://www.microforever.com/gundamfix/0011.htm
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN915914
(warning, may cause uncontrolable drooling)
I guess that's partly why there are so many people keen on Gundam mod (this on in particular, due to the gundam's exceptional artwork)
what the fuck?! what UC is this?!!!!!
kou that MS from sicksaddave's link are called sentinnel gundam (S gundam) it was never shown in anime but from a novel. if u know what blue destiny is, that MS has (A.L.I.C.E) system similar to what BD-1, BD-2, BD-3 have. Oh and the timeline for that suit is followed closely after or near the end of gundam ZZ.
btw ak, nice screenies..the rx-78 with beam rifle and hyper bazooka looked really dangerous, just like it was in A Boa Qu.
PS - is it just me or if u look closer to the 3rd screenies at the NT-1....its left hand actually has the 100mm gun pod opennow THATS SEKSI
A little off-universe: In Gundam X episode 26, the featured "foe of the day" piloted a Mobile Suit that was completely stripped of any armor or armament except for a single beam knife. Although it was shown later to be incredibly vulnerable to CIWS (autocannon) fire, it nearly destroyed the Double X, which was superior both in firepower and armor. Great armor and guns mean very little if you can't hit your opponent; the only problem for GMs (like the Sherman tanks) was that their opponents had little trouble hitting them.
Speaking of Cosmic Era Gundam, IF they decide to do another one, they had better use a different director and screenwriters...
Last edited by melchior00625; 8th Mar 06 at 12:56 AM. Reason: Additional stuff; double-posting bad
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That S Gundam is crazy, especially if you manage to get the Gundam Fix "Plan-303E Deep Striker" thingy......
ps. I agree with the CE issue. Fukuda and his wife SUCKS in producing Gundam series, especially after I'd followed GSD.
why buy a gundam FIX when u can build a more beautiful looking and cooler looking MG grade
Seed was a good serie, destiny destroyed what seed made, but I think that if they made a gundam CE series with "the cockpit" stile, it would just ROCK, but for that you need Leiji matsumoto :P
Dyson: thats the thingthe only gundam game that was played in a cockpit view was DC's 0079: Rise from the Ash...other than that, there are no more gundam game that was made that way. Unless u count Lost War Chronicle's change of view is too, but i wouldnt count that one
no, shrimpcraft, I was talking about anime series
Y'know it jus came to me that AK 4got to put in Rick Dom 2's. Those would be a good addition for 3.0
whutta wha?
ya rick doms 2 would be nice. and kou do you know where i can get the link to the nuke mod for homeworld 2? im making a halo mod for homeworld 2 and that nuke mod is bascilly essential
many doms, many zakus, many gelgoogs, many variants, most of them never used while beauties like the kaempfer, bawoo, jagd doga are not included and if they are not added, I would prefer to have less units, so I can say the difference and add them to their proper role quickly
I would be good to see just Zakus in the first stages of the game instead fighters, bazooka(anti ms-capship), rifle(antifighter), and hero zaku(black tristar), heavy MS like dom and gelgoog later with a hero unit each one, and later add differente units here and there, because I have never used fighters or Zaku I.
and please, add Neue Ziel instead the bigro.
yeah
they could create a gametype like the Star Wars Warlords mod which has Build Restriction eras (i.e. in the Warlords mod they have eras that deetermine which ships you can build according to the era, like the Return of the Jedi era). This mod could do like early OYW, Mid-Late OYW, 0080 or 0083 Operation Stardust
Last edited by Mad_Barber; 12th Mar 06 at 4:45 PM.
... hmmm that sounds pretty good .. but wouldnt that mean AK would have to add ALOT more units?
I am Char Aznable the Red Come
Well IMO i think the way zeon starts is perfectly fine already...look at it this way
if u've played single player against 2 expert cpus...u would be grateful to have those zaku I & II cause their subsys buildtime is faster than the MS subsys so u can crank out units first be4 u do other upgrades cause most of the time the cpu will come in with swarms of fighters and bombers already.
oh btw guys do u remember there used to be a fighter mod where all the fighters actually does turns and stuff so the dogfights look more realistic? i couldnt find that mod anymore
for 0079 hed only have to add guncannons and regular gms, whats so hard about that. gm would only be a modified gundam
Modifiying a single unit is quite hard, every change could make it crash or make it un pilotable, but EFSF made it quite quickly, it flys, shoots, and walks, ok, perfect! mass produce it, but sir, what about making it maneubrable, good weapons, and armor? What? thats expensive, and slows production, we have too many pilots, leave the gundam to the star, script will make the rest
The latest development appearance~~~
nice work
good god albion is ugly!. woo for the original invincible white ship!
dyson; shut up. im talking about modding the game, not taking the series too seriouslyModifiying a single unit is quite hard, every change could make it crash or make it un pilotable, but EFSF made it quite quickly, it flys, shoots, and walks, ok, perfect! mass produce it, but sir, what about making it maneubrable, good weapons, and armor? What? thats expensive, and slows production, we have too many pilots, leave the gundam to the star, script will make the rest
Nice work, but albion was way cooler than the white base, but a good retro touch though
Sorry Mecha Manic, I wont "shut up" so easily, maybe when you learn to choose your words
JESUS H. CHRIST!! The white base is finally here!!!! Now can u add the thoroughbred too? lol
Wow, that's really cool!
AK's model is actually not far off from the official data.
See
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN916425
for a 1/400 white base model
However, I think the geometry may need a bit of modifications, you can see that the official model has a little longer front MS bays, smaller bridge and a longer centre body
Just my 2 cents
yea lol i agree with dave here
now, it'll be kewl if he made the particle cannons on the side as an upgrade like albion and they open up just like the anime when firing XD
just my $0.02, but u see there are 3 lines separating the blocks on the bridge area? now if the took out the outside one (the most narrow) WB wont look as awkward :P
kou uraki can i have the link to the nuke mod for homeworld 2?
what do u mean, "nuke" mod. Are u talking about the mod that has the GP02a's nuclear warhead enabled?
Uhm I was wondering if anyone could help me please.
I start the Gundam Mod and try to do a skirmish vs the computer but when the loading screen gets to LoadingScarScript , the program just shuts down , am I the only one with this problem and would anyone know how to fix this ?
Many thanks , Subenu
edit the .bat file that you get from the zip package which starts the mod, open notepad and add -luatrace at the end.
run HW2 and start skirmish, after it crash, go to the release directory and copy HW2.log, post the content on the forum, I will see whether I can help you or not.
I need your help on setting up actions(such as openning and closing gates of the carrier) in MAYA, and something about setting the madstate files, if I want an animation actived by attack,then how shuold I set that in the madstate file? If you can help me on all kinds of action and animations, Please send me an E-mail at ak4700001cn@yahoo.com.cn .And I'll send you a MAYA sence with a conplated carrier in it and the .ship file of the carrier by e- mail, If you can set up all that I wanted in the sence and the .ship file(espesailly the Efsf_V_carrier.ship), record the process as a guide and send all those back to me(espesailly the guide), I'll never be thankfull enough to you. And the model will be yours as a present
Thank you ^_^
AK47_TZJ.
Ok here is what I got.
Fri Mar 17 19:27:48 2006
UTIL -- filepath failure, path doesn't exists 'C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\data\locale\English'
LOCALIZER -- Failed to load file LOCALE:resource.ucs due to overlapping range with LOCALE:ships.ucs
Uing ..profiles\ for profiles folder
GAME -- Using player profile Subenu
Changing from a 32 bit colour depth in winNT (5.1 build 2600), Service Pack 2
Using NVIDIA Corporation's 1.4.0 GeForce4 440 Go 64M/AGP/SSE2/3DNOW! renderer (Suspected driver is nvoglnt.dll 6.14.10.4716)
SOUND -- created destination [ fdaudio ], handle [ 4 ] with [ 48 ] channels created
SOUND -- created destination [ fda streamer ], handle [ 5 ] with [ 8 ] channels created
Build name: Sajuuk-Khar - AutoBuild3498 - Ordered by smmatte
Built by : mrbuild
Data path : C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\data
No mapping for font 'GenericSubtitleFont' - using 'default'
Resetting fp control word.
CmdLine: -mod GUNDAM_2.big -luatrace
Starting Level: data:LevelData\Multiplayer\deathmatch\4P_RINGS_OF_HRAAL.LEVEL
EngineTrailStatic::getTweaks requesing index(1) that doesn't exist.
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Open_OnSet
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Close_OnSet
EngineTrailStatic::getTweaks requesing index(7) that doesn't exist.
EngineTrailStatic::getTweaks requesing index(10) that doesn't exist.
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Open_OnSet
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Close_OnSet
Small starting fleet
parameter: attempt to call global `SetStartFleetSuffix' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
1: function `OnInit' at line 240 [string ""]
SCAR ERROR: could not find OnInit function in rule file (data:LevelData\Multiplayer\DEATHMATCH.LUA) -- FATAL EXIT -- scar/223:! --stack trace-- 0x0062519F: getLibraryID () 0x004948BF: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= () 0x0049034A: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= () 0x0049090B: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= ()
problem 1
UTIL -- filepath failure, path doesn't exists 'C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\data\locale\English'
have you installed english.big for the gundam mod???
problem 2
LOCALIZER -- Failed to load file LOCALE:resource.ucs due to overlapping range with LOCALE:ships.ucs
this is not a critical error
Problem 3
CmdLine: -mod GUNDAM_2.big -luatrace
Are you sure you downloaded 2.5, it looks like 2.0 to me
Problem 4
EngineTrailStatic::getTweaks requesing index(1) that doesn't exist.
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Open_OnSet
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Close_OnSet
EngineTrailStatic::getTweaks requesing index(7) that doesn't exist.
EngineTrailStatic::getTweaks requesing index(10) that doesn't exist.
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Open_OnSet
Cannot overwrite function Hgn_Mine_Close_OnSet
That sounds a bit like some previous mod changed the system...maybe I am wrong
Problem 5
1: function `OnInit' at line 240 [string ""]
SCAR ERROR: could not find OnInit function in rule file (data:LevelData\Multiplayer\DEATHMATCH.LUA) -- FATAL EXIT -- scar/223:! --stack trace-- 0x0062519F: getLibraryID () 0x004948BF: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= () 0x0049034A: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= () 0x0049090B: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= ()
SCAR error??!! This shouldn't happen unless the file is inside the SCAR folder
(if you put the scar file in the folder with you do -overrideBigfile, it will crash the mod for some weird reason)
My only suggestions are :
number 1
Check whether you have installed english.big and perhaps you remove other "goodies" you modifed earlier(if the engish.big fix doesn't work. I know using the -mod cmd meant to bypass any previous modifications)
number 2
Get the 2.5 mod, it seems you are running 2.0 instead!!!
yep thats it kou. can i have the link to it? because i need a nuke mod for my halo mod
whoa whoa whoa whoa, halo mod? what the hell r u talking about? ur making a halo mod?! damn, i want the link to that, but unfortunetly there is no more link to the nuke mod.... If u want it, i'd have to email it to u or something. PM me about it l8r if u please.
yes email it to me please at baseballstar964@aol.com
and since i cant make a thread on relic untill i get a playable version of my mod out heres the url to my forum
http://s12.invisionfree.com/HaloUNSCvsCovenant
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already, and i'll say this now: dont take this too seriously
I was thinking, what if there could be some factions from some of the AU's added to this mod, like like Oz or Zaft and suchlike.
Just want to know what other people think is all
oh, and if anyone is gonna go all fanboy on me about it, im gonna say right now i haven't seen a single gundam series I didnt like
that would be pretty cool but there isnt that much suits for the gundam team. IMO gundam wing was way off balanced.
It the team were so willing to change the time range, I think it would be more feasible to do 'factions' from Zeta and Double Zeta instead. But that would mean adding a whole lot more units to match the faction, such as the Titans, AEUG, Neo Zion, and the like Also, that would increase the overall lethalness of the units involved. Pit the Bygro against say, a Messala, and it should be no contest. I think that would have to be it's own separate mod all together. Almost like AEUG vs Titans, Axis vs Feds, you'd kinda get the idea. The early tech trees would have similar units, but the higher tech units would be faction specific. AEUG with the Zeta, Hyaku Shiki, Titans with the Messala, Asshimar, Bound Docs, Axis with the Qubeley, and Gazas, so on and so forth.
Well, to be honest I was just thinking it would be cool to see loads of different factions from different gundam series battling it out, mostly because I wanted to know how a fight between the EFSF and Oz would be, but still :P
Well, this is not a unit mod, so many factions would be good, but they are too different. The mods direction is great as it is now, from 0079 to 0083, just the best period in UC, and maybe a seed mod... yes, seed units are just too cool, but as that, hero units in seed are just too powerful, a seede mod, based in grunt units would be the best, and with aegis, strike, blitz... gundams as herounits, no freedom, no justice, not Hiak... ejem! akatsuki, too unbalancing.
Not to mention that a CE mood would be a totally new mod to start from 0% and i dont think AK wants that
yeah thats true. maybe its something worth doing after this one is complete though, i'd definitely try and help with that sort of thing
actually, screw that, i'd try and make the whole mod myself if I had to
Man, thats a titanic task for a single person
The bad side is if someone makes a CE mod ill feel sorry for those pseudo feddis facing GINNs, CGUEs, even with Daggers... Geez, those things are like trash cans compared to GUAIZs, well, the nuke ones not LOL
ZAFT NO TAMENI!!!
Guys, FYI, first mission of the unofficial campaign I am working on will be ready for beta in 2-3 weeks time. I am now working on AI tweaking to make the mission more intense. For anybody whose interested in beta testing, please send me an email on dv201@yahoo.com
I have to pass AK's standard to proceed further. Afterall, we want to produce the best quality mod instead of some dodgy job. Therefore, constructive comments are much appreciated.
Finally, please do not be unreasonable on era selection. It took the gundam team 4 years to get to this stage. They work is truly legendary, seriously, how many other mods you've seen had gone in such depth since the entire computer gaming history? Very few gundam series actually qualify for good RTS gamming. (heavily skewed on hero units, even Gundam Z is very merginal unless you break titan into earth and jupitar sect. You have to COUNT grunt, support, assult, high speed units etc) Hero heavy series such as SEED and Wing is just next to impossible to incorporate. It will end up like the starcraft mod, very confusing and terribly unbalanced. (nice graphics, however)
I am a bit surprise that AK and Glock didn't create their own small number of MSVs, consider it would be really cool if bandai willing take up the design, making plastic models, due to the mod....(wishful thinking)
Well... as I said, CE mod could be playable if someone made it, just getting rid of those easycryuberheros and focus on grunts with two or three gero units as aegis, blitz, duel, strike, CGUE (I love that MS) the bad side is that ZAFT has all the heros XD all the coolness
SIEG ZAFT!!!
Agreed with Dyson. CE mod is possible
BUT i strongly disagree on clashing other eras together because it will so imbalance the sides or factions due to difference wpns output and functionalities. i mean if u wanna clash stuff togather, go play super robots war :P OR make a mod urself with all the giant/nimble mechs together and see how they duke it out
Well, "first" CE gundams are more than enough for a fun and balanced mod, because a freedom unit just would rampage among enemy units with its multiple lasers, killing squads of enemies in no time, and other gundams like reys or Shins... well, just too strong Vs grunts
I disagree too with merging different universes or timelines, maybe not for balancing issues but for stetic and game feeling, chars zaku vs wing zero is not only a suicide but just... strange dont U think so? you like wing zero? perfect, make a mod and face him Vs loads of Leos (ugliest mech ever seen)
GO CHAR!! GO!!
UC 0079-0083 is fine enough. Merging gundam wing or gundam seed will just screw everything up. The Freedom Strike gundam will just be like the gp02a's nuke; it'll destroy everything with no challenge. Lets jus wait for 3.0 to come out.
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