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    Plus they may actually roll a 6 or two in a fight...
    They did against my Grand Master....
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    Shouldn't Round V state 'Ap0k vs Zarathustrian'?

    'And Lord Soth did go home that eve and hold a great soirée, and the walls of the palace did weep blood at his victories, and the servants of Her Highness did make vast sacrifices in his name, and the land around the citadel did grow great tendrils of pleasure in his honour, and as the soirée drew to it's end, he did sleep, safe in the knowledge that his true master favoured him greatly.
    And the saga neared its end'

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    Damn it I really wanted to participate. I can't believe I overlooked this thread....


    I'm surprised nobody's picked the Nightbringer. S10 without benefit of any kind of save and a bunch of other nasty rules would insta-kill anything but the tyranid entries (sved's hormagaunt aside).

    I may have missed something on the limitations (i.e. no special characters?), but it seems moo's rules have been edited out of his posts.

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    thats beautiful Ap0k...

    and yes Legiemus, no special characters were allowed.
    it's been a while!

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    Cool, my guy made it all the way to the end. Good Brain, this was fun.

    Didn't i tell you that Apok would make it to the end?
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    It's fixed if you ask me, just to serenade Ap0k the new mod

    BTW can a match be arranged between me and Ap0k, sort of like a grudge-match thing? My updated model and reasons are on post #10 on the first page I think.
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    I want a bronze medal on my Shaper!

    nuff said

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    At least my Dev. Marine made it farther then it should have.
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    The Final Showdown...

    Round 1. As a servant of Slaanesh, Ap0k caused his enemy to strike with a -1I. Couple with a furious charge bonus of +1I, Ap0k would get to strike first in round 1. But the two adversaries would strike together from round 2 onwards.

    A good drug roll, saw Ap0k get +1A, +1WS and ignoring the 1 wound this round. This was vital, as this made himself and the Tyrant strike at equal WS, and not give Zarathustrian an easier time hitting the Daemon.

    Ap0k managed to land 3 hits on the Tyrant, and thanks to the furious charge +1S, each hit wounded. Zara would need to roll 6's to avoid taking 3 wounds. Unfortunately for him, none came up.

    The Tyrant was down to 1 wound...

    Zarathustrian would need to make an impact here, or risk leaving it all too late.

    He didn't dissapoint landing 3 hits. But only 2 managed to wound. Ap0k's drugs meant that one was ignorned. Due to the Tyrant's biomorphs, every successful wound would cause two wounds. Meaning that could have ended Ap0k's life there and then. Instead the lord was left alive, but any further wound by the Tyrants would cause his death.

    Round 2. Both combatants would strike at the same time, and both only needed to get 1 successful wound to kill their adversary. A replay looked highly probable, as they would both likely kill themselves.

    Ap0k tried desperately to turn the Nid into Chaos Spawn, but couldn't find the precious 6 required. (didn't get a signle succesful Chaos Spawn all tournie...)

    Ap0k couldn't risk a drug overdose, so took only 2 drugs (one to increase WS - to stop the Tyrant landing too many return hits. And one to +1A, too give a reasonable chance of killing the thing).

    Ap0k landed 3 hits and caused 2 wounds. Both were failed and the Tyrant was down. Zarathustrian needed to kill Ap0k and force a rematch.

    And when 4 hits landed, the rematch look sealed. Just one needed to wound and it would be redone. But when a whole bunch of 1's appeared, Zarathustrian's heart was broken. Not a single wound was landed. And Ap0k's Daemon Prince was victorious.

    Huzzah for Slaanesh!

    DOUBLE POST : Once Ap0k has had a chance to see his success and gloat a little, then I will do a match vs Brian General. But he needs time to savour his victory first, just in case he get's embarrassed by the Best of the Worst.


    Thank You everyone who participated. It was much more popular than I expected.
    Keep an eye on the General Forums, as I plan to do another challenge shortly. Not the same thing. Want to keep it fresh and whatnot.
    It was alot of fun doing this. And it was very interesting to see how it all panned out.

    Honestly, when I looked at Ap0k's entry I didn't believe it would make it past round II or III. But boy was I wrong...

    Congratulations Ap0k. thankyou to evryone else.

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    Hey, thanks for running this thing Moo! Pretty damn entertaining stuff if I do say so myself. :clap:

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    Oh yeah... if anyone has any comments or suggestions about how to improve things or what they would like to see in any potential future things, feel free to post them. Happy to hear any feedback.

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    congrats Ap0k...slaanesh > all.

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    If i was able to bribe you, than it would have been better.

    Congrats people.

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    thats sure was a close one. Congrats Apok.

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    One thing as a loser i think a championship, although large, would be better, one bad draw at the beginning and a model that should be able to beat alot more than that is out for the count. If everyone played everyone we could really find who is the best.

    And its a pity that a chaos won, they should have some weaknesses.

    But congrats too!

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    Meh, I think it was rigged by Moofreaky to curry favour

    But come on, Zarathustrian rolling four 1's when he needed just one other dice roll? The odds of that are 1/1296. And whenever Ap0k took a wound from Combat Drugs, he miraculously gets it back every time.

    That's the problem with these sorts of things. Although entertaining, we're at the mercy of the host, as we have no way of guaranteeing impartiality and fair play.

    Congratulations Ap0k! But I still demand that rematch!

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    One thing as a loser i think a championship, although large, would be better, one bad draw at the beginning and a model that should be able to beat alot more than that is out for the count. If everyone played everyone we could really find who is the best.
    That's what I was thinking of for the next one.

    But come on, Zarathustrian rolling four 1's when he needed just one other dice roll? The odds of that are 1/1296. And whenever Ap0k took a wound from Combat Drugs, he miraculously gets it back every time.
    Actually. Zara needed 4's. Strength 6 vs Toughness 6...
    And the combat drug used every time, was ignore the first wound taken. So of course he is going to make it back.
    The only difference is whether he actually takes a wound in the process. If he hadn't rolled doubles then he just wouldn't have taken any wounds.

    That's the problem with these sorts of things. Although entertaining, we're at the mercy of the host, as we have no way of guaranteeing impartiality and fair play.
    And please don't dare accuse me of not being fair. Of all the moderators and seniour going around I've had less to do with Ap0k than pretty much anyone.
    Plus I was actually rooting for the Dark Eldar. As that is the army I play.


    So just because a moderator won it makes me look like I'm sucking up... real fair.

    Perhaps you didn't mean it badly. But I don't take well, at all, to being accused of cheating or being partial toward one party over another. In fact it just makes me pretty much uninspired to ever do anything similar again.

    Your welcome Psygunner. Happy to have hosted for you.

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    Well after reading bits of this thread it seems that it mut have been very fun. When do you think the next Cc challenge will be?

    Oh ya and im a bit confused. Did you all meet up and battle with your models or just Pm each other the results?

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    I meant to say this earlier, but I do want to thank Moo for getting this together and running it. It was, in my opinion, a great event.

    I'm all for another one myself, though I'd say give it a rest for a few weeks at least rather than runing one after the other, after the other, after the other, so on and so forth.

    I like th set-up myself, but I can see the merit in suggestions such as sword_monkeys where every combatant fights every other combatant in thier round. It would take longer, but in the end it could offer up much different results.

    Anyway, I look forward to another one in the future and hopefully I'll manage another entry that's unusual if not one of a kind again.

    ~Bizkit

    edit: I wasn't going to say anything, but since Moo addressed it I don't see why I shouldn't: I think your comments, meant in honesty(I really hope that wasn't the case) or only as a joke, were very inappropriate Psygunner. Poor show. That's all....

  20. Tabletop Senior Member Company of Heroes Senior Member  #320
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    Technically, the Tyrant wouldn't have been getting any saves against my attacks. MC ignoring Armour Saves and Dread Axe ignoring invulnerables

    Regardless, it was a lot of fun to watch. I didn't think my guy would make it all the way, since there were a few opponents I met on the journey that left me 50/50 on whether or not I'd be able to take them on, but it seems a little luck was in my favour (for once).

    I don't like the insinuation that the results are rigged, whether in jest or not. Moo hasn't proven himself dishonest in any way, at all, ever, as far as I can remember, and theres no way of running something like this without having the burden of honesty on someones head. Doing it by the averages defeats the point, which leaves only the good old fashioned dice rolling to win the day. Short of him taking photographs of every dice roll as it came up, and then linking them all (which might I add, would be completely pointless, since it could still be rigged), theres no way to prove he didn't rig it, but I am perfectly prepared to take him at face value. It's not like he had anything to gain by my winning (cheque is in the post dude...).

    Anyway, good game all. Some very nasty combinations out there (including a few curveballs). It's been a lot of fun


    'And Lord Soth did go home again that eve. And his wounds were tended by the soft caress of Slaanesh, and his name was echoed throughout the Eye by all that were in awe of him and his great victories. And monuments were erected in his name across the lands. Monuments created from the very flesh of his vanquished foes. And for an eternity they were destined to writhe within their unbreakable prisons, slaves forever to his will.
    And Lord Soth was crowned champion of Slaanesh, and a national holiday was named after his deeds, and harems were erected in his honour.
    The saga had ended, and he did have his playthings for the remainder of time.'

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    Lol Moo, I didn't mean it badly at all, and I'm not accusing you of anything. On the contrary, I think you've done a wonderful service to the TT section of the forums with this competition, you should be proud.

    Come on, I used the winking smilie. Wasn't that enough illustration for you that I meant it as a joke?

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    It's not like he had anything to gain by my winning (cheque is in the post dude...).
    Lol fantastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waterbizkit
    edit: I wasn't going to say anything, but since Moo addressed it I don't see why I shouldn't: I think your comments, meant in honesty(I really hope that wasn't the case) or only as a joke, were very inappropriate Psygunner. Poor show. That's all....
    You're entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to make a harmless comment. I don't understand what the big deal is, is everyone super-sensitive around here all of a sudden?

    I got knocked out in the first round against Ap0k without even scoring a wound, but I don't particularly care. I entered a crap model as a temporary measure with the intent to refine him later (although couldn't because I was admitted to hostpital on the 15th). It should be no suprise to me or anyone else that it got thrashed, which is why I would have liked to have a rematch with Ap0k with my planned model (although he's probably in a hissy fit with me now). Look at post #10 if you want to dispute this, that goes for everyone.
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    for the larger tournament you are speaking of- perhaps a points based system, where in each round you battle everyone, and each win gets you x points, and half the models (the ones with more points) go through to the next round, where the process is repeated (higher points per win in each consequent round) until a winner is decided in the final showdown and most points at the end wins...

    show whos the most competant CC combatant rather than a fluke in 1 round.

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    Wow thats a long gametype, longer than my straightforward championship, but you still dont solve the problem of flukes.

    The lucky ones get more points and go through, the unlucky ones lose, its just as flawed as any championship where everyne plays off, there is no way to go unless you played the champioship three times and took the average - lol! Tis like science coursework.

    But it would still come out with a result that showed the better combatants, maybe the top competitor wouldn't be the best but the top three would be worthy of praise.

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    Flukes are part of the fun, right? How else could the Kroot have... comprehensively destroyed several adversaries... in order to gain a victory? If the most cheesed out selection wins, what is the point? We demand techmarines to... claim ownsership of their enemies through use of incredible luck!

    Flukes... in the name of victory.

    This is so hard...
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    Yeah, I'm quite somehow embarassed lol.

    And yeah, I suggest the Point system, but it'll take a long time for Moo to play all once......

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    Brian, my new competitor would laugh in the daemon princes face whilst smashing it with a great big hammer. Not many daemons can live THAT.
    ap0k will strike first, but against me, you wont get a hit AT ALL. Fell the wrath of the daemonhammer.
    That kinda gives away what i'm gonna use, damn.
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    Hehe, then I shall also plan what I'll use then......:evilnod:

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    Didn't I tell you Apok would win. Now, who owes me money


    Seriously, this was a lot of fun, and i can see this turning into something realy fun for the forum to do every once in a while. Congrates evryone for participating. Meet you on the battlefield another day.

    And special thanks for MooFreaky for rolling all those dice. What a sport :thumb:

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    Didn't I tell you Apok would win.
    It's all depends on Dice God. He may gives him a triple in the first round on using 3 drug powers, or miss all his attacks to wound, who knows.:evilnod:

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    prahaps it could be points based on how many wounds you inflict. so if a model has 4 wounds, and it costs 100 points, you'd get 25 pts per wound. this could have some kind of adantages as a weak model that gets lucky for a bit still has the ability to win.

    E.G if mr.bugthingy (who has one wound) whome costs 20 points wounds mr.daemonthingy (who has 4 wounds)who costs 200 points once, and then mr.daemoin thingy kills mr.bugthingy, mr bug thingy still wins as he got 50 points from the wound inflicted on the daemon and the daemon only gets 20 points for killing the bug.

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    A big thank you to Moo and a bow to Apok.

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    Hmm... That kind of keeps some of those cheesy characters a little less cheesy. It's a good idea, but it's just too complicated.

    I think we should just do something like this again, the more simple, the better.

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    Congrats on the win Apok! (by the way, as the winner you have to buy the drinks at the after game party )

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    Sure! You can all have imaginary beers on me. I'll pay the imaginary barkeep with my imaginary credit card, which will take the imaginary funds straight out of my imaginary bank account.

    It's the least I can do.


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    You are sounding like Hive Mind.

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    Noooo, I say REAL beers and THEN tell you it was imaginary!

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    Weirder an' weirder, every day...

    How about some imaginary cookies, lads?

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