amazing work! i loved the mod till it crashed. i tried to play a skirmish allied with the eldar and **error**
ah well, it was fun until then!
great work again!
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amazing work! i loved the mod till it crashed. i tried to play a skirmish allied with the eldar and **error**
ah well, it was fun until then!
great work again!
#752
But thats the way its always been with new expansions.. mods worked.. It was during the original DoW times when they moved from LUA -> RGD was when everything was in disarray for a few weeks. With every expansion, mods worked except they a) were not balanced to take into account the new gameplay aspects and b) they did not use some of the new LUA code available to them if they wanted it.
I don't want to sound like a child crying for a toy ...
but: Shin; you promised to release a DC Build of the Craftworld mod after soulstorm comes out.....
If it is as good as the harlie alpha I'm sure people would love it just a much
cheers...
#754
hehe.. you just did.I don't want to sound like a child crying for a toy ...
Further..
Shin has other DoW projects (like Steel Legions, BloodAngels, Splinterfleet, OrkA, Craftworlds, Emperor's Children, and then Harlequins) but work/life/other games/feeling burned out can take a toll.
You are ALL welcome to offer support and modding help for any of these to lighten the load.
ugh u have no idea how much i want to help out with any of these mods, but i only got 3dsmax today and i have not a clue how to use itshame i really wanna help. i do alot of adobe flash so i have animation in mind.
man Shin has a real hefty load going on.
Hey All,
Spartan_x - Father Christmas promised me a brand new bike for xmas...sigh...maybe next year!
All joking aside, Shin myself and many other mod teams out there try to stay away from giving prospective release dates for exactly this reason...Life tends to drop crap on your plate without notice!
Do not loose sight of the fact that Thud, Shin, myself & all other mod teams are not paid to mod...and have important day-jobs & family & loved ones & sleeping etc. that come first...before the Mod's
You see...if I give up my job as an exotic lap-dancer, to mod full time...how will I pay for the SS expansion?!
ForbidMetal - Get as many reference books with Tut's, and work through them...and remeber Max is a generic 3D package not just a tool for DOW modding...its taken me 4 years to get used to, thats with an AutoCAD background...persistence & patience will see you through...good luck
Cheers,
will do cheers
I didn't mean WORK on something
I meant just release whatever there is (like he did with the harlies) no matter how unfinished it might be...
I a team does not COMPLETE a mod , it's okay , they work for free ....
my point was (NOT CONCERNING THIS MOD PARTICULARLEY..)
if you bother advertising something over a long period of time
than all that time becomes a total waste, if in the end nothing is released...
#759
hehe.. yea tell that to Danimator and Grim.. 6+ faction mods down the toilet without trying to find a home for em to keep em going.than all that time becomes a total waste, if in the end nothing is released...
Anyway, Harlequins for DC was released back late last year -- I recently updated the AI for its use in Soulstorm.. works damn mighty fine.. much better then the AI which shipped out before. Of course.. if Shin had helpers his final Harlequin dream could be realized quicker.
Poor thud, your really tore up about Danimator and grims mods,
Pertaining to The Craftworld mod, i would like to see it come out along the time of Splinterfleet (itching for some iyaden destruction :P) and i also remeber something about they were actually planing on releasing them somewhat together...of course that might be my wishfull thinking.
also, i hope imaplayers "hordes of abaddon" mod is still Convulsing...
"Iron Within, Iron Without!"
#761
Peturabo: I disagree heartily. If they didn't want to release any of the stuff that they worked on, it was their right. The least that they could have done was to respect their artistic integrity and only release things if THEY wanted to... regardless of what the community wanted. As Spartan_x said, modders work for free... and there is NO good reason why they should have to release anything that doesn't meet with their vision.
The same goes for Craftworld/Harlies... it's been a long wait, and Shin has a lot on his plate, but that doesn't mean that he should release anything that he doesn't feel like releasing.
Croaxleigh, i see your point About dani and Grim. and seeing your Portfolio you know a ton better than me, but if you just up and quit something that has taken alot of your freetime (and other people who have helped you) wouldnt you release or give back what they have done to get somekind of gratification, and if you Have wiped your hands clean of it, why would it matter if someone else finishes it? im not trying to sound greedy or selfish, just confused on why someone would do that, Eh maybe its just What i would do, seeing that if i make someone else happy im happy
back to craftworldsry for offtopicness ,just wanta hear the answer to this question from another modder who has great experience
#763
Well I'm not remotely happy with what is happening with Dani/Grims projects and I told him right out in private especially since I worked on their AIs to ensure they were perfect. Now I have their fairly latest builds on my local drive and all I can do is ponder what could have been feeling powerless to do d*ck. Lovely.. I suppose I could debate this til I'm blue in the face and with the time ticking away til mid'09 for DoW2 that doesn't help matters kuzz we're all VERY much now working on spent time.
I feel a deep sense of obligation to get most DoW projects done and almost all War40k assets into DoW as quick as possible before DoW2. To that end, I plan to expedite that goal even financially because I am not a man to leave things left undone.
#764
UPDATE FOR COMMUNITY!
Advanced Skirmish AI for Harlequins (when working in Soulstorm) is here:
DOWNLOAD HERE!
Installation Instructions:
Simple.. just unzip the entire contents of this zip into your \Harlequins mod folder overwriting everything. It should ask to overwrite various items.
General updates
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o Utilizes latest 3.00 Soulstorm AI code so prepare for an ultra competitive player!
NOTE: REMEMBER --> THIS IS FOR SOULSTORM ONLY!
I have also released the Advanced AI for Steel Legions found here --> http://forums.relicnews.com/showpost...&postcount=338
Thud. I don't believe you could ever possibly fathom how happy you just made a great many people; myself included. Thank you Thud, and of course Shin who I imagine allowed Thud to release these "minor" patches for SS.
Last edited by capulin; 7th May 08 at 8:07 AM.
ah man that was a hell lot of fun thank you thank you thank you!!! just gotta wait for the next installment on the combiners mod and ill be able to play soulstorm again! the only issue i had with this (not AI related) was that everyones banners execpt the harlies appeared pink, not a big deal but i found it a little weird since ive been playing the harlie mod since vanilla dawn of war (it got me into mods) ive never seen it before but like i said no big deal!
ah something weird when i was versing harlie AI there LPs didnt attack? they were upgraded idk why it would be different for the AI because when i was playing harlies my lps attacked fine automatically
Last edited by Mute Orphan; 7th May 08 at 7:20 PM.
Wow this mod is an absolute gem. I usually despise harlequins (probably because they are jumping on my head every 2mins)) but I enjoyed this mod immensley. Such a nice change from other races, incredibly quick paced and elegant infantry are a real pleasure to use.
It really is incredible what great stuff there is out there.
#768
Ah mute? Harlequin LPs don't attack.. they offer bonuses to fellow Harlies, stealth themselves, and slow the enemy down when they near + other features. But yes they are meant not to attack.ah something weird when i was versing harlie AI there LPs didnt attack? they were upgraded idk why it would be different for the AI because when i was playing harlies my lps attacked fine automatically
Dear lord
I dont' care whether it's alpha, beta, gamma, what ever this mod is absolutely fantastic. Just yesterday harlequins were my sworn enemies but today I find myself searching aimlessly for any harlequin related fluff I can find and all thanks to this mod. I encourage anyone reading this to give it a try straight away. Anyways, my thanks to the team responsible for this mod (according to what I have read it has been passed down between various ppl and at present is in the hands of Shin gouki) well my thanks to anyone who has contributed towards it. Great work
Here are a few suggestion:
- The User bar (bit with all the building options, can't remember what it's proper name is) is so bright that it is almost distracting, doesn't really matter.
- Maybe just have the Solitaire as melee beast relic unit and allow a few more spirit wraiths, can be useful when the enemy starts spamming dreads and defilers.
- Perhaps give the Dark veil the ability to create a webway portal
anywhere on the map through which harlequin units can travel. The ability can maybe spawn a building that looks like a portal and any units including enemy could use it. It could lose health at a fixed rate but builder units could be used to maintain it for hit and run tactics. (I think it could produce some interesting scenarios)
Anyway I am a admittedly cheap player so these suggestions may not make any sense but either way I can bearly tear myself away from this excellent mod.
Last edited by Crux terminatus; 8th May 08 at 12:19 PM.
ah serious? i couldve sworn i saw mine attacking before, hell mustve been an eldar player lol my sincere apologies because this updated AI for the mod and hell AI 3.00 althogether has got me back to playing soulstorm and letting medieval 2 collect dust
Lots of love!
#771
Well thats we got and since Shin's not really up for modding Harlequins anymore UNLESS he finds a worthy successor thats the best we'll have.The User bar (bit with all the building options, can't remember what it's proper name is) is so bright that it is almost distracting, doesn't really matter.
Buahahaha.. Oh considering the Solitaire is the most powerful melee unit in all of War40k and a Spirit Walker by itself pretty much causes massive FAIL around it I think having just one of each will do without causing your harddrive to format itself to death.Maybe just have the Solitaire as melee beast relic unit and allow a few more spirit wraiths, can be useful when the enemy starts spamming dreads and defilers.
No sir its good as it is because imagine using it to send a Solitaire, 2-3 Vibro-mounted Mocking Birds, and a Spirit Walker right into your enemy's base. Yep.. you get an automatic "gg". Its best tempered. Harlequins, once they get mounted Vibros pretty much melt everything to the hell fires that burn.Perhaps give the Dark veil the ability to create a webway portal
anywhere on the map through which harlequin units can travel.
*sniff* damn my cheapness (it's because your skirmish ai is so damned relentless, like Khorne himself has possessed the ai)
- it's a shame that the mod isn't being worked on, but it's incredibly good already.
#773
It could be worked on but an accomplished team would have to be choosen to continue it. Good to hear about the Harlequins AI - those guys were such a major byatch trying to get the AI to use em properly.
According to the pdf codex at games workshop all the units are in their already, I wish all 'unfinished' mods were in such good condition and available for download. From the many threads I have read it seems like their is so much good stuff out there that seem to have stopped but from showcases look amazing. Then again these mods must be hard work, just putting in one c2c model gave me grey hairs lol
anyone have that link to the file to prevent this mod from crashing? i think it goes in the structures folder, but the old link is dead now.
#776
Mod doesn't crash anymore since it was fixed in my AI release above.
But the Download Link is Down
I guess day 1 DLC was too casual for EA, so let's start doing 8-month-early DLC! - Shuma
Eagerly awaiting DoW3 with mod tools. You hear me Relic?!
#778
Check dowfiles.com
so... just to be sure: what about the craftworld mod, then? cause vanilla eldar design (models, gameplay) doesn't seem right...
Tasmanian Pain Coaster
i fear that craftworld mod is dead, or dying.
but on other hand dow2 with will be faster finished than than this mod.
sad but true...
#781
If you think you can offer something, then do rather than commenting from the outside looking in. DoW mod-making is NOT an easy proposition but a rewarding one once its done.
#782
Hopefuly Shin and C° have never listen to the storm crows who time and time again said the CWE and Harlequin mods were dying.
If brand-new-and-shiny DoW2 makes you stop looking forward to such potentialy high-quality mods, then better you indeed stop following their progress, obvious or subtle.
@Thud, more pompoms needed!!!(no kidding)
PS: oh, and no, my nose isn't brown and smelly, thankee
We look to the heavens so that one day our children may look back towards home.
#783
I was firm but fair, dear sir.
Sorry(not realyi fear that craftworld mod is dead, or dying.
but on other hand dow2 with will be faster finished than than this mod.
sad but true...)but that type of little comment never ceases to get my choler up to the extreme
,Rob,Thudo and all of the modders just like them work their collective ass off to try too bring us these wonderfull mods,You want to try your hand at making this stuff yourself?,It is hardly at all easy,As I have stated many times before to others (and I will not stop defending my friends in this community ever)creating these wonderfull mods for you the general public,Much less for personal use is a time consuming process,Fun yes but at times maddening and frustrating,Never mind real life commitments,Ok rant off
,Later guys and have a good one
Outlaw guns and the only ones who will be armed are the outlaws,Criminals will be armed regardless of more silly gun laws.
That which does not kill me,Better run really really fast.
i cant seem to find a working link to the alpha for the harlie mod for DC...
Acceptance- Seeing how hopefully shitty you are and moving on.
its great to be mistaken for once
im happy that some sign of life is still there
edit:
sorry if i sounded as whiner, and u guys may trust me i understang how much hard work and precious time u put into this mod. But also u must understood that months of waiting on craftworld turned into years.
ps: ffs new trailer to dow2... with that things that look like eldar... what a piece of c***
Last edited by Boruta01; 17th Jul 08 at 11:08 AM.
i think you guys are reading into it a lil' to hard..he simply means that he thinks most people will move to That new game, so this project will never get finished.(he might have phrased it wrong) .At least that is how i have read it ,and srsly the new THQ game should be called a rpg not rts..atleast from what I have heard and seen ,its more like a new game then evolution but i digress
#788
I can ask Shin to give me his latest SS Harlies build and I'll ask DoWfiles to put up a more permanent offering so it never expires.
This mod is awesome of course it would be superb to have a finished version, but I'm more than grateful for all the hard work that went into this project already (sadly I can't help this mod)... sure thing it would be very sad if it wouldn't be finished but let's face it after all those years and a DOW2 coming up it's totaly understandable that some elite mod veterans are shifting down a gear or stop developing their work...
As for myself I don't care about a DOW2 and would be very grateful should this mod be finished for SS or DC.... well sorry for ranting just my 2ct
#790
I think Shin is a little wee busy to work on Harlies UNLESS someone steps forward to tweak/enhance it then forever more in DoW1 it will remain this way. Of course, if DoW2 is proven to be massively un-moddable then the DoW1 side of things might elevate a little. The work involved to get a full Harlies faction realized is almost there -- Shin put in ALOT of content when he worked on this in late '05 to '07 so you can see the fine details. But he is currently busy much like the entire Steel Legions group so its up to some mid or vet modders to offer a little support *IF* they have free cycles.
Hey guys, i would be willing to do some work for the craftworld mod.
I can do modeling, animation and a lil bit of texturing. If you want to send some work my way i will see what i can do.
Not sure exactly how much time i will be able to put into it because i have another project for a different game but i might be able to help you out a bit.
send me an email if your interested.
#792
Send a PM directly to ShinGouki providing him samples of your work. If you don't hear from him in a week, let me know.
Does anyone know what happened to
The Dance Macabre Site
It seems to have gone offline... or something.
Not long ago i got a new computer but i have lost the dc alpha.
Last edited by EldarAspect; 3rd Aug 08 at 2:30 PM.
[QUOTE=thudmeizer]UPDATE FOR COMMUNITY!
Advanced Skirmish AI for Harlequins (when working in Soulstorm) is here:
DOWNLOAD HERE!QUOTE]
Link no longer active.
I'd really like to be able play harlequins with SS.
New link please.
#796
Shin is currently indisposed of until late Aug so I'll need to wait to get the latest Harlequins build but have to ask Shin to add Soulstorm integration so Harley weapons can fire at air targets. The AI side of things was long done. I will then need to put it up on DoWFiles.com for long term archiving.
Thats great news cant wait to get playing the harliquins again.
Thudmeizer,
The Harlequin AI for SS link is dead. Could you please repair it?
i would imagine thud will do that when the SS build is up
#800
HERE! Its for DC but **DO NOT** play against the Harlie AI as the game will crash -- this will be fixed.
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