ClassicThunder's Multi-Player Mod (Version 3)(Keeper Tech Tree is functional)

[Classicthunder]

Website: Login for the Latest Updates
http://www.cmm.hwaccess.net/news.php

Latest Member-Only Beta (Featuring Keeper Tech Tree)
http://www.cmm.hwaccess.net/downloads.php
A readme.txt is included in the folder with installation instructions.
Must join CMM to download, wich is very easy you don't even have to wait for a confermation E-Mail.

Past Release: CMMV3
http://files.filefront.com/CMMV3exe/.../fileinfo.html

Past Release: CMMV2
http://files.filefront.com/CMMV2exe/.../fileinfo.html

Past Release: CMMV1
http://files.filefront.com/CMMV1exe/.../fileinfo.html


Update History_______
Beta:
All of the ships are faster resulting in a faster paced game.
The Keeper race is playable and I've finally got the AI to work perfectly for them, so you can play for or against the Keeper.

Version1:
I rebalanced the Assult Mover and Keeper Attack driod. The Mover shoots alot faster and is very efective agains fighter, however frigates and corvettes are very efective aginst it. And the attack droid had about the same stats as the stock intersepters.

Version2:
I added in the Vagar Swarmer and the anti-capitalship Vagar Sniper Corvette. Along with creating a Multigun Corvette and long range Bomber for the Higgy. Also you can now build 2 shipyards and only 2 shipyards using all of the unit cap settings.

Version3:
The cruiser has been compleatly made over and the Chimera Station has been militerized. I reskinned the ui, and did a few bug fixes. I created a new came mode to go along with the old fasioned Deathmatch that allows you to use alternit starting fleets. Trust me CMM has been revolutionalized.

Version3.2:
CMM v 3.2 has been released. Mostly its an update for the Keeper AI. They now have a tech tree and build everything from AttackDroids to Dreadnaughts. The super ships such as the Dreadnaught and Heavydestroyer take a long time to build though so you'll need to get numbers up on them.

Recruiting__________
Modeler (Only needs to be able to export to a .obj you dont need to have Maya)
Skinner (Again only needs to be able to work with an .obj)
Script Editor(Need some help to get everything done)

Thanks and Credits___________
Thanks to Eviljedi, and Ununf for all thier help and Zatch for his Weapon Script Editor, and I have to thank Eric072691 for supporting this mod by boosting my confidence and for beta testing my mod.

Mod Members:
Lead: ClassicThunder
Beta Tester: Eric072691
Beta Tester: Babbo

Thanks everyone, ClassicThunder

P.S. All and every comment, suggestion, and bit of constructive criticism is welcome so if have have any thoughts on my mod spit em' out!

[Natopo]

Where is it?

[Classicthunder]

Okay I've got it hosted and a few pictures are up. Sorry about that for some reason moddb woln't let me post my mod there.

[Eric072691]

I've been trying to find a mod like this. Looking good, and I got no complaints about it except the fact that the site won't let me download it.

[unfunfofmpc]

Guess I shall give this mod a go .

[Classicthunder]

Okay I've fixed the links and everything so far as I can tell. Have fun playing my mod!

[Moe]

Mirror link.

It's a self-extracting archive. Download and double-click on the file to extract it.

[Eric072691]

Thanks for the mirror Moe and for the the fix Classicthunder

[Natopo]

The .big one isn't working.

[adecoy95]

i got an error

Image of the error

HEY!

who is zatch and why did he edit my post to not show pic

[Gotcha]

Build list:
3 Droids ("Driod" needs to be changed): Recon, Fighter, Bomber.
2 Movers (Corvette Class): Assault and Capture.
2 Destroyers (Capital Class): Heavy and summoning.
2 Utility: Resource Collector and Mobile Refinery.

No Frigate Class. Mothership is a Bentusi keyhole unit.

No research, no probes, no custom colors, no badges.


Suggestions:

- A third Droid model is needed. Recon and Bomber are the same model. They're built as individual units, not squadrons, but that's fine, considering the stats. Maybe they could move a lil faster, though.

- Corvette Class Movers... Err... Well, I don't like the models so much and Droids do a better job (by far). Maybe a Missile Mover would be more useful.

- A second Destroyer model is needed. Heavy and Summoning are the same model.

- A Keeper Mothership is needed. The Bentus just looks weird. Nice, but out of context.

Probes are needed. Keeper utility models are needed (currently Hiigaran models).

[Classicthunder]

Build list:
3 Droids ("Driod" needs to be changed): Recon, Fighter, Bomber.
2 Movers (Corvette Class): Assault and Capture.
2 Destroyers (Capital Class): Heavy and summoning.
2 Utility: Resource Collector and Mobile Refinery.

No Frigate Class. Mothership is a Bentusi keyhole unit.

No research, no probes, no custom colors, no badges.


Suggestions:

- A third Droid model is needed. Recon and Bomber are the same model. They're built as individual units, not squadrons, but that's fine, considering the stats. Maybe they could move a lil faster, though.

- Corvette Class Movers... Err... Well, I don't like the models so much and Droids do a better job (by far). Maybe a Missile Mover would be more useful.

- A second Destroyer model is needed. Heavy and Summoning are the same model.

- A Keeper Mothership is needed. The Bentus just looks weird. Nice, but out of context.

Probes are needed. Keeper utility models are needed (currently Hiigaran models).

Thanks for the feed back. I aware of all of this and thats why my mod is currently still a beta. I personally can't adjust or creat any new models and am having trouble finding a modeler or getting someone to give me a few HODed ships. And about the movers I'm currently readjusting thier arment so that they are more balanced.

Thanks. ClassicThunder.

And by the way, adecoy95 could you explain the error as I can't get your link to work?

[Classicthunder]

Version 1 Released!
See the first post for details and also in the morning or later tonight I will post some screanshots.

I've adjusted the Movers and Attack Droids so that thier more balanced, and I've added a few ships to the Higgy fleet!

[Zatch]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5319/4268341ug.jpg

That's the image adecoy95 was trying to post.

[Classicthunder]

Pictures are up! About 15 of them!

And thanks Zatch but I never seen the error dialog before, do you have any idea of what it means? I've tried hard to make my mod crash ubt in 5-6 hours of test play I can't get it to.

[unfunfofmpc]

That error simply means an API called "SaveAll" provided by the Lua dll was not able to be found.

adecoy95, does this error only happen with this mod, or with homeworld 2 itself. Either SaveAll isnt a value call in LUA, or your missing the DLL file with that api defined as an export. Suspect files would be Lua.dll and LuaConfig.dll inside your Bin/Release folder. If either of these are corrupted or missing, that would be the problem. Otherwise, something in the mod is making a function that does not exist. Do a windows search for files that contain the text "SaveAll" in the data directory (extract the files from the mod big first and put them in the data directory).

[Classicthunder]

Good. Glad that the errors not on my side! Thanks for clearing that up Unfunfofmpc.

[TechOps101]

this mod is ok its still a work in progress right? i hope to see more out of this one it seems to be fun last time i played it

[Classicthunder]

Of course! Version 1 means its only the first version thats not a beta. When I add small updates I will increase the tenths place and when I compleatly update everything I will up date the integer, but yes this is very WIP. Expect many more updates as time goes on.

Glad you enjoyed my mod.

[Eric072691]

The sounds great, and it's working great for me.

- I like the improvments you made to the Higgs.

[Classicthunder]

Version 2 is out!

What I added:
Higgy:
Standoff Bomber (A Anti-CapitalShip bombercapable of slowly eating away at heavy armour far away enough to avoid its anti fighter weaponry.)

Multigun Corvette (An light but agile corvette that is a very capable in the anti-fighter role.)

Vagar:
Swarmer (A fleet of beefed up scouts that can almost hold its own agains other fighters.)

Sniper Corvette (A Anti-CapitalShip corvette capable of slowly eating away at heavy armour far away enough to avoid its anti fighter weaponry.)

For all unitcap settings you can have 2 and only 2 shipyards.

[Eric072691]

Sounds gread

[Classicthunder]

I'm almost done with version 3. However, I need a beta tester to help make shure everything is ballanced. If Anyone is interested PM me and I'll give you a link to my mod, and add you into the credits on my next release.

Note: Releasing the link to the public will ban you from ever being able to beta again.

Thanks, ClassicThunder

[Eric072691]

Ok I've downloaded it and am testing it now.

Edit: After testing Hiigarian.

I find the Higgy standoff bomber is a little overpowered. (so far I've only played as Higgy) Paired with the mutigun corvette or flack firgates.

A problem with all of your new ships is they currently don't have a picture or icon.

Also the mutigun corvette's turrets don't turn, and there's only one turret on the bottom of the ship.

A good thing is the artillery cruiser is nicely balanced, though it could use some PDS wepons.


Overall nicely balanced. Of course I have yet to test the Vaygar.

Will update in a while with results as Vaygar. Anyways it looks good right now.



Vaygar:

Once again you need icons for all of the new ships.

Now about the sniper corvette, it, like the Higgy Standoff bomber needs some tuning down.

But this side is mostly doing well. I don't see as many problems on this side as I saw on the Hiigarian side.


So overall you've been working hard and it shows in the quality of this mod, It's simple changes that make the game very complex and exciting.

[Classicthunder]

A problem with all of your new ships is they currently don't have a picture or icon.

What do you mean by this? I have Icons for all the ships showing there model and fleet size. I have yet to custimize the icons but they're there.

Also the mutigun corvette's turrets don't turn, and there's only one turret on the bottom of the ship.

Thanks I had no idea about this one. I send you a fixed .ship later, unfortunantly I'm having trouble adding the finishing touches to my mod as dad still wont give my back my Homeworld2 disk!

Now about the sniper corvette, it, like the Higgy Standoff bomber needs some tuning down.

I'l probable make them a little more expensive instead of tuning them down, in my opinion the strike craft in Homeworld 2 are underpowered, and what is your oppinion about the new gametype's starting fleets?

[Eric072691]

I didn't have time to test it yet. I'm going to do that after I finish this post.

Edit: Tested

They work, really bugless. and the number of ships is truly correct and balanced. So good work.

[Classicthunder]

I didn't have time to test it yet. I'm going to do that after I finish this post.

Edit: Tested

They work, really bugless. and the number of ships is truly correct and balanced. So good work.

Thanks Eric

And people I realy need some custom HODs. Any HOD will do. In fact I'm willing to do some scripting for HODs. SO will anybody let me use custom HODs.

[Eric072691]

What do you mean by this? I have Icons for all the ships showing there model and fleet size. I have yet to custimize the icons but they're there.

Also the mutigun corvette's turrets don't turn, and there's only one turret on the bottom of the ship.

I ment the icons/image that shows up when you select the ship, it also doesn't show up in the build menu.

I'd help but I can't HOD.

[Classicthunder]

I ment the icons/image that shows up when you select the ship, it also doesn't show up in the build menu.

I'd help but I can't HOD.

Thats they're there on my computer. Could you take a screenshot of the build menu with a custom ship selected? That would help me out alot.

[Eric072691]

Here it is:


It's the same for all custom ships. They just don't have icons.

[Eric072691]

Just one question, How'd you get the screenshot so big?? Mine don't show up that big.

[Classicthunder]

Version 3 Is Out

Check out the first page for deatails. Trust me CMMV3 is a lot better than V2. I've reskinned the ui, added new game types, and pretty much changed everything.

[Eric072691]

You can say that again.

Edit: I was able to load a game today, but the problem is still there.

Now I think that we should wait until someone else downloads and tests it before we try anything to fix the problem.

[Classicthunder]

Anyone else who downloads my mod please tell me wether or not you can see the custom Icons.

[Eric072691]

Checking in from Los Angles, looks like nothing new. I don't have HW2 on this laptop so I can't see if I can try to fix it. So if anyone else downloads the mod, PLEASE tell Classicthunder.

For the rest of the week, bye

[Babbo]

Classicthunder, hi and hello! Well, I was curious and tried your mod. It's nicely done, really! Nevertheless, I've a few comments, if you allow:

- I didn't have any problems with any icon, everything is as it should be.

- Generally, I found that game play is running quite fast. Not the movements of ships, but research and build. I mean, I had my first artillery cruiser (great ship, btw.) after about 10 or 15 minutes, followed by a battle cruiser, a couple of minutes later. No hard criticism, but, after playing endless sessions of Complex (where you have to 'wait' for your first battle cruiser, sometimes 2 or 3 hours), this really came as a surprise to me.

- Swarmers are fun. Even if I primarily associate that chubby compact Kadesh-design with them, combined with extreme weapons strength and, therefore, I wonder, which one is the role of a swarmer squadron in comparison to a scout squadron, where the latter is just smaller and not that much poorer in performance.

- Although, I did not yet finish my first multiplayer, I have the feeling that the Hiigaran party appears to be a little over-powered. I'm not sure, that's only a first impression.

Go on, I'm looking forward to your new cmm-developments, and let me know if I could be of further testing help!

[Eric072691]

Another contact from LA.

I just remembered that I installed my HW2 directory to one different than the default. I installed it to a "J:" drive.

Ok then, bye again.

[Classicthunder]

Thanks Babbo it's nice to have some feed back i get so little of it.

- I didn't have any problems with any icon, everything is as it should be.

I'm glad the icon issue isn't an issue. I think the rar compersion of the files was what saw messing up the .tgas.

- Generally, I found that game play is running quite fast. Not the movements of ships, but research and build. I mean, I had my first artillery cruiser (great ship, btw.) after about 10 or 15 minutes, followed by a battle cruiser, a couple of minutes later. No hard criticism, but, after playing endless sessions of Complex (where you have to 'wait' for your first battle cruiser, sometimes 2 or 3 hours), this really came as a surprise to me.

Thanks that is one of the main objectives in my mod. Pesonally Complex about put me in a coma. With CMM I'm trying to keep the stategy element of Homeworld 2 strong while providing some action.

- Swarmers are fun. Even if I primarily associate that chubby compact Kadesh-design with them, combined with extreme weapons strength and, therefore, I wonder, which one is the role of a swarmer squadron in comparison to a scout squadron, where the latter is just smaller and not that much poorer in performance.

The swarmer is ment to bridge the gap between the scout and interseptor. 2 swarmer fleets can destroy a interseptor whil three to four scouts would have there buts kicked. The swarmer is a scout with less sensor eqipment and more firepower.

- Although, I did not yet finish my first multiplayer, I have the feeling that the Hiigaran party appears to be a little over-powered. I'm not sure, that's only a first impression.

I can understand why it would seem like that for the Higgy have many more ship options over the Vagar. However, thay are balanced even if the Higgy side is more flexible because of the extra ship options.

Thanks,
ClassicThunder

[Classicthunder]

Sorry for the lack of updates but I"ve been working on the Keeper AI, and am proud to say it now works properly . I have added in a tech tree that the AI uses properly. After the next update when you play the keeper they build Dreadnaughts, Heavy Destroyer, and everything else. Soon thanks to the new CFHodEd I will soon hame new Keeper ships added in! Also I'm getting HomeBoy to give me some forum and websight hosting so soon that will be fixed as well. Sorry to be so long guys I've been pretty busy.

[Eric072691]

That's perfectly fine. I really enjoy release 3 and I'm currently trying to find out whats wrong with the icons for me.

[Classicthunder]

I've got a new website up and running thanks to HomeBoy! Check it out for forums, download links, and updates!

http://www.cmm.hwaccess.net/submit.php?stype=p

I'ts still a WIP but it's already prety developed and expect it to grow quickly!

[Eric072691]

Very nice. I just registered. :hwpilot:

If wanted I can help you with the site.

[-=[F@LC0]=-]

One QUestion any other one tried to run the mod on 1600 * 1200 ???
If I select these solution the game doesn't strart anymore

in addition to that i have random crash to desktops when playing keeper with 5 CPU and every race ingame. Hw2.log has no useable outputs ..

[Eric072691]

I don't know how to help you with that.

EDIT: Added a FAQ. Not done yet though.

[Shipyard Nabal]

Sorry, got an answer 3 seconds later.

[Eric072691]

Shipyard Nabal, register at the website? From what I've read ClassicThunder is working with you.

http://www.cmm.hwaccess.net/

[Shipyard Nabal]

I just did. And yes, we have made an "alliance".

[Eric072691]

Very nice.

[Homdax]

CMM Mod proudly hosted by HWACCESS.

[Gotcha]

When I click on the exe, after downloading the file, something tries to connect to the Internet. Of course I denied access, but I wonder why the self extracting thing wants to connect to the Internet...


Droids are still called "driods". Please fix that glitch.
Droids are too slow (well, the attack droids are too slow).

The Keeper flagship is still the Bentus and it's too big.

When playing Keeper, I tried to click on an ennemy swarmer squad. The Icon doesn't appear, I just get a white square thing (where the icon should be), with a red HP bar.

That's all for now, I only tried this new version for a few minutes.