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21st Sep 03, 7:34 AM	# 1
Devils_Hitman Guest	Freespace mod, HW2 http://www.angelfire.com/droid/devi.../freepacefc.htm check it out. :Pirate:

21st Sep 03, 7:51 AM	# 2
dunkmaster4000 Guest	Looking good. The HW1 FS mod was kind of a disappointment. You mention 30 ships per side, with some new. I think you should include some FS1 ships instead, but that's just my opinion. I'm actaully very excited about this.

21st Sep 03, 7:59 AM	# 3
Devils_Hitman Guest	Freespace 1 and 2 inculuded, fs 1 ships are pretty low polygon so i'll probaly have to remake them, n re-texture but i'll try to get em in there. I said about 30 ships but i dont know yet, after all the fs2 n fs1 ships are added and my ones, there'll probaly be more. btw if anyone wants to help out they can, otherwise it'l be just lil ol me.

21st Sep 03, 9:46 AM	# 4
Parias Guest	About bloody time someone suggested this. Finally, an engine that can do the beam cannons justice!

21st Sep 03, 10:42 AM	# 5
dunkmaster4000 Guest	I'd love to help you, but I've got a couple other projects starting at the moment. I can see how busy I am and maybe I could help you out in a few days. BTW are you exporting the models from FS or doing them yourself?

21st Sep 03, 10:47 AM	# 6
Devils_Hitman Guest	A little bit of both.

22nd Sep 03, 1:25 AM	# 7
The_FoxHound Guest	OOooohhhh yess! bookmarks and watches

22nd Sep 03, 4:18 AM	# 8
Devils_Hitman Guest	Nice lil render. http://www.angelfire.com/droid/devi...ics/battle1.jpg .

22nd Sep 03, 8:22 AM	# 9
ztella Guest	eh shit It weird seeing people using your old idea... and who is this saying the FS mod for HW was a disappointment... It was the 4th ranked mod! I think I would know... And damn man I bet this boys just gunna use pof2cob(converts freespace to HW) so their models won't even be legit. Man....

22nd Sep 03, 8:51 AM

# 10

Devils_Hitman

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Quote:

Originally posted by ztella
eh shit

It weird seeing people using your old idea... and who is this saying the FS mod for HW was a disappointment... It was the 4th ranked mod! I think I would know... And damn man I bet this boys just gunna use pof2cob(converts freespace to HW) so their models won't even be legit.

Man....

errrrr, your old idea?, lots of people have wanted to see freespace as a strategy game. As for the homeworld 1 mod, they used pof2cob models and they looked allright.

I just want to make a mod that i can use personaly, and mabye other people might want it so thats why im gonna release it.

Models being legit?, it doesnt matter, as long as i get a shivan juggernaught fireing beam cannons into the colossus i dont mind.
Its not that i dont have modeling experiance, its coz i dont really want to remake a whole heap of models.

Thanks for you opinion though. :hdown:

22nd Sep 03, 9:30 AM	# 11
ztella Guest	Man I am SVG, the creator of the mod! Its just weird though. I hear that my mod was a disappointment(probably from sumone that played the non release (unbalanced])product). U know what i'm saying? I'm gonna be creating a new mod, but if y'all want my old ships (all 100 of them, every HW position filled). I gave the people what they wanted thats all. I have that entire mod done wit LODs so if u want it i'll be willing to help you out, to be a "Design Consultant." We'll get it done quick and then we can start on a brand new mod, that sounds good? Last edited by ztella : 22nd Sep 03 at 9:36 AM.

22nd Sep 03, 9:52 AM

# 12

Devils_Hitman

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Quote:

Originally posted by ztella
Man I am SVG, the creator of the mod! Its just weird though. I hear that my mod was a disappointment(probably from sumone that played the non release (unbalanced])product). U know what i'm saying? I'm gonna be creating a new mod, but if y'all want my old ships (all 100 of them, every HW position filled).

I gave the people what they wanted thats all. I have that entire mod done wit LODs so if u want it i'll be willing to help you out, to be a "Design Consultant." We'll get it done quick and then we can start on a brand new mod, that sounds good?

I'ld rather convert n re-texture all the models myself, im pretty used to doing a lot of things at once for a mod, graphics, coding, modeling ect. I may need help with the converting the models to hw2 format.

this mod is my personal view of what i want, : freespace universe + homeworld engine.

22nd Sep 03, 3:37 PM	# 13
dunkmaster4000 Guest	Ya, I said it was a BIT of a disappointment basically because of the balancing. That was mostly my own expectations though. Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. The mod itself was fantastic, kudos to the creator. I wasn't bashing it, I was just saying that i'm excited about basically the same thing with a new engine that can really do the game justice.

23rd Sep 03, 5:21 PM	# 14
TrickBillards Guest	I loved the old mod I want to see a new one. The only reason I really want a new one is so that you could put in subsystems. Disabling them was soo important in fs2 that it's kind of odd to think about a mod without them.

25th Sep 03, 7:33 AM	# 15
Devils_Hitman Guest	http://www.angelfire.com/droid/devi...Pics/phobos.jpg Sort of a concept for a new ship. Need to add more details, mabye add more turrets. GTCv Phobos. :Heavy Corvette :20 turrets.

26th Sep 03, 3:11 PM	# 16
Devils_Hitman Guest	heres another ship, if anyones interested http://www.angelfire.com/droid/devi.../Pics/nagas.jpg comments?

26th Sep 03, 5:58 PM	# 17
Liberator Guest	Hate to rain on your parade but you might want to worry about canon ships(I.E. the Orion or the Herc 2) before you go the time and trouble to make your own. Last edited by Liberator : 26th Sep 03 at 6:10 PM.

27th Sep 03, 6:56 AM

# 18

Devils_Hitman

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Quote:

Originally posted by Liberator
Hate to rain on your parade but you might want to worry about canon ships(I.E. the Orion or the Herc 2) before you go the time and trouble to make your own.

Orion n herc are done, just gotta texture them n fix em up.

27th Sep 03, 7:38 AM	# 19
flipper Member Join Date: May 2003	What about the Colossus and Sathanas? And how many polys will those two behemoths be? Also, what ships have you chosen for mothership class? Will it be like the HW1 mod where the Gate was the Shivan MS and the Arcadia platform was the Terran MS?

27th Sep 03, 8:00 AM

# 20

Devils_Hitman

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Quote:

Originally posted by flipper
What about the Colossus and Sathanas? And how many polys will those two behemoths be?

Also, what ships have you chosen for mothership class? Will it be like the HW1 mod where the Gate was the Shivan MS and the Arcadia platform was the Terran MS?

Sathanus is about 1200 polys n thats allmost done, dunno about the Colossus, im kinda going for a different timeline, say about 100 years after freespace 2. So the colossus will be long gone, but i will make a new one :3dcool:

Hmmmm, i'll make a new mothership for the terrans and i might use the jumpgate for the shivans, or something different.

I still working out the story, if i can make missions i might make a small campaign aswel.

27th Sep 03, 8:02 AM

# 21

thrawn

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Quote:

Originally posted by flipper
Also, what ships have you chosen for mothership class? Will it be like the HW1 mod where the Gate was the Shivan MS and the Arcadia platform was the Terran MS?

Imho, the Arcadia didn't really fit into that role, but was probably the only canon terran base-like thing which fit into poly-limit. Some kind of space dock for super-caps (think of Tanis) would be cool.

27th Sep 03, 8:23 AM	# 22
flipper Member Join Date: May 2003	Yeah, it was kinda weird to see the Colossus, which was almost half the size of Arcadia, sorta melt its way out of the tiny hole it starts in after being built

27th Sep 03, 9:43 AM	# 23
malcom2073 Guest	Ah!! Popup attacks on the website :-P. Hopefully scaling and balancing will be better than the HW1 mod.

27th Sep 03, 9:52 AM

# 24

Devils_Hitman

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Quote:

Originally posted by malcom2073
Ah!! Popup attacks on the website :-P. Hopefully scaling and balancing will be better than the HW1 mod.

It will be as close to freespace gameplay as possible. If i can fit 60 turrets on the hecate destroyer, i will :nod: lol

5th Oct 03, 6:50 AM	# 25
Belial Guest	We might need some new members to help out with the mod. Textures, models, background, maps, weapons ect. So if u want to help out email me at Devils_Hitman@hotmail.com :Pirate: Last edited by Belial : 5th Oct 03 at 6:30 PM.

6th Oct 03, 6:40 PM	# 26
StratComm Guest	Devils_Hitman, are you familiar with HLP? You should go hang out there... that Shivan corvette of yours is simply drool material. (Yes, believe it or not FS2 is alive and kicking, you should take a look at http://www.3dap.com/hlp/) You might pick up some interest/help there as well. Also, if you're setting it in the future of the FS universe, you might find these interesting: Out of curiousity, what exactly is HW2's poly limit? Also, you shouldn't have to be re-doing all of those models... you're almost always going to come up with something higher-poly than canon ships. Surely you can find some kind of converter.

6th Oct 03, 6:49 PM	# 27
verybad Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	Motherships in HW2 have in excess of 8000 polies. The Ion Frigate has about 1600 in LOD1.... __________________ Melius est praevenire quam praeveniri

6th Oct 03, 6:50 PM	# 28
Belial Guest	It can handle quite a bit, the higaran mothership is over 8000

6th Oct 03, 7:05 PM	# 29
StratComm Guest	ok, then things should be about even. That's about what FS2 will take soon.

6th Oct 03, 8:28 PM	# 30
Marodeur Guest	@Stratcomm: I like this part of the page: http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/wcsaga/ Last edited by Marodeur : 6th Oct 03 at 8:37 PM.

7th Oct 03, 3:29 AM	# 31
Belial Guest	Cooked this one up just then. Its low poly but dosnt look like it. im wondering if its worth it to use meshsmooth to bump it up to 2000 polys. But i dont think i will because it would lose its "sharp/rugged" shivan style. Overall polylimit with turrets n lil goblin details, ect would probaly be 600.....still not much tho. Comments welcome. :Pint: Last edited by Belial : 7th Oct 03 at 4:00 AM.

7th Oct 03, 2:34 PM	# 32
dunkmaster4000 Guest	Extremely impressive. My only very small criticism is that it looks slightly off balance. The mass of all the original shivan ships looked more evenly distributed. I just get the feeling that it looks like it's about to fall over. I'd just decrease the size of the spine up front to about 75%. But it looks fantastic no matter.

7th Oct 03, 2:43 PM	# 33
admiral666 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia	cool.looks shivan to me.r u going the include the lucifer?because i want revenge on it...instead of it blowing me up,ill blow up it!!!i have freespace,bt stuck on the mission to destroy the lucifer. And u r adding the Galletea,rnt u?i think its spelled galletea,your main carrier ship...thingy Last edited by admiral666 : 7th Oct 03 at 2:49 PM.

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