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Old 26th Dec 03, 2:42 PM   # 1
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What Armies do you play?

I play Necrons, Tau, Space marines, and Imperial guard.
 
Old 26th Dec 03, 2:49 PM   # 2
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Marines, Eldar, Harlequins, and my own PDF (that I use the DaemonHunters' rules for).
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Old 26th Dec 03, 2:53 PM   # 3
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Eldar, Harlequins, Dark Eldar, Sisters of Battle, Daemon Hunters and IG. I also have a large force of Squats but are almost usless now.
 
Old 26th Dec 03, 5:10 PM   # 4
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I usually go for Orks(horrible accuracy )and space marines,i also play Necrons,Tau and Chaos.

I just hope all races are in gives them game more diversity...

Also i suspect Relic will use a method similiar to their Impossible Creatures game,where you can genetically engineer some 40,000 animals,but i suspect in warhammer each unit will be fully customisable (ie you choose their equipment,much like constructing and painting miniatures)...
 
Old 26th Dec 03, 9:33 PM   # 5
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Tyranid and Eldar (though it has been a bit since I was able to play against anybody).
 
Old 26th Dec 03, 11:10 PM Forum Rules   # 6
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The Imperial Guard.
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Old 27th Dec 03, 3:35 AM   # 7
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tyranids
 
Old 27th Dec 03, 7:07 PM   # 8
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Ahh a fellow Ender fan....

I played Ultramarines and Imperial Guard.

Oh and Orks when i was up for a laugh. Da red wunz go fasta!
 
Old 27th Dec 03, 9:52 PM   # 9
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Necrons and Eldar. Although not a very good force for either :/
 
Old 27th Dec 03, 10:06 PM   # 10
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Imperial Guard [2500pts], Lost and the Damned [2000pts]

I also have small Space Marine, Eldar, and Dark Eldar forces that really I havent used in years so have no clue how big they can be (:

For the record my Computer's Network Name is Ender (:
 
Old 28th Dec 03, 5:52 AM   # 11
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Tyranids(2500), Eldar(2000), Dark Eldar(2500), Marines(9500 1 full company), Imperial Guard(4000), Chaos(3000).

Heh, so they're doing a 40k game are they? XD heh heh, relic and 40k in the same place... sounds good.
 
Old 28th Dec 03, 6:39 AM   # 12
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Necron, Eldar, Marines and Tau. I have a 'nid force, but they remain unpainted as of yet.. and I just started (really just started, i have one squad) of Imp Guard...
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Old 28th Dec 03, 9:13 AM Forum Rules   # 13
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How can you people afford so much?
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Old 28th Dec 03, 9:42 AM   # 14
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Because 1) Have a lot of money or 2) been playing for awhile or 3) a job.
 
Old 28th Dec 03, 1:26 PM   # 15
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A JOB?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??! OMG!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 28th Dec 03, 6:07 PM   # 16
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2 is correct, 3 is correct and a VERY forgiving wife
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Old 28th Dec 03, 10:46 PM   # 17
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>>How can you people afford so much?<<

Ive been playing since Rouge Trader. Many of my models are the old lead figures when they were decently priced.
 
Old 29th Dec 03, 1:07 AM   # 18
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Playing forever works best. I've been playing for 8 years myself, others longer (:
 
Old 29th Dec 03, 4:59 AM   # 19
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Well...I started with Eldars in 2nd edition..when 3ed camed I picked the box, sold Eldars to my friend and started to collect DarkEldars..I have about 1500 points DE army now..I don`t play it, because I really suck with this army But what the heck..paiting them was fun as hell
Later I started to collect Chaos Space Marines..I have 2000points of tis army.

Recently I`ve bought Tau codex, so that`s what I`m playing now(my friends are good enough that they allow me to play with models from other armies so I can learn a bit about Tau army before I start to spend money on it )..and I`m tempted as hell to pick DarkAngels(I`ve crazy idea of paiting them in Shinsengumi colors ). I expect Tau and DarkAngels to become my main armies for couple next years.
 
Old 29th Dec 03, 8:04 PM   # 20
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I make armies with a friend, then slowly buy them off him. Also since I paint well enough to get paid for it, I can support the habit.

Bought all 120 metal cadians in one shot, with launchers, special weapons, etc etc.

I'd post imagery, but really I can't spare space.

Oh and guys, anyone in PA post in. If you're looking for a game, I have just a *feeling* I'll be able to put together a large enough army to use.

Shinsengumi dark angels... eww... Dark Angels rock by the way. WHAT? chase us away?! Hell no! We'll just get pissed and shoot you MORE.

Tau are good, but watch the marines. I went 1500x1500 73 models tau vs 73 models my marines... at the end of the fifth round, the remaining three tau models surrendered. My remaining 68 marines shot them anyway. Damn aliens.
 
Old 29th Dec 03, 8:53 PM   # 21
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Its what they deserve for believing they can unify a galaxy whose hadred goes back tens of thousands of years. Hell even the Total Annihiliation war only lasted 4000 years and there was NO chance for peace there (:
 
Old 29th Dec 03, 9:05 PM Forum Rules   # 22
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although I haven't actually 'played' a tau army yet, my guess would be your friend tried to play the tau like a marine army.

That and its real easy to build an inefficient tau list, what with so much wargear and drones and everything.

If you could post the list RunOn, I'd love to see it!
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Old 29th Dec 03, 10:43 PM   # 23
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if i can settle myself with the outlay.. i wanna set up an imperial guard tank division.. all vehicles and 2 he77 with all the little men. Course without the hundreds o meatshields it wont seem like an imperial guard army, but i think i can live with it,
 
Old 30th Dec 03, 7:31 AM   # 24
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Hmm, my army was all foot marines. 1 max squad of jumpers, librarian, jump chappy, and a dev squad. Everything else in basic marine troopers.

He had 3 damn large squads of fire warriors, etherial, commander in armor, squad of armor, broadside(s), think some kroot in there somewhere.
 
Old 30th Dec 03, 2:44 PM   # 25
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Silly Tau bugger...vs. Marines you need lots of broadsides (or hammerheads) and as many plasma guns as you can. A squad of the powered guys (what they call those suits?) with plasma guns can put the hurt on marines. I know, I've nearly lost to the Tau before.

Their strength 5 guns are cool, but not vs. marines with their massive armor. You need carbines to make them hit the deck. And you needs a lot of Kroot to suck up enemy fire...in close combat, kroot are not to be trifled with en masse. Dont neglect sheild drones on your broadsides...nothing worse than watching your las cannon shots harmlessly piff some floating pile of junk while the battle suits work you over with rail gun shots.

If you kicked his butt that badly then he really stinks...it appears he had both kinds of battle suits and still lost...fear the angels of death!
 
Old 30th Dec 03, 3:03 PM   # 26
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last time i met Tau was when i played a 750 pts imperial guard army and he had 500 pts over. when it ended after 6 rounds the entirely tau force was whiped out and the had only killed one and a half squad guards, a commissar and destroyed the multi-laser cannonturret of my chimera... the chimeras damage came by railguns...
 
Old 30th Dec 03, 3:58 PM   # 27
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A long time playing

Over 10 years and I still love my Eldar army over all others, but do also collect DE and 'Nids.
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Old 31st Dec 03, 3:52 AM   # 28
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Imperial Gaurds and a Kroot Mercenary force... both around 2000p
 
Old 31st Dec 03, 6:50 AM   # 29
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Ive had eldar, tyr, DE, dark angels and deathwatch. I'm currently putting together a defensive space marine army (WHAT??? I hear you cry...) and a Tau force.

The technique with Tau is a mobile style of play, stay out of assault range and keep shooting. Inevitably you will need more tau than space marines to make it fair, but you can quite easily take out three tacticals and a devastator with 5 or 6 fire warrior squads...
 
Old 31st Dec 03, 10:24 AM   # 30
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Yea Tau is hard army to play I think. And there are few tau players so you can't really get a lot of help.
 
Old 31st Dec 03, 10:29 AM   # 31
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Originally posted by deggy
although I haven't actually 'played' a tau army yet, my guess would be your friend tried to play the tau like a marine army.

That and its real easy to build an inefficient tau list, what with so much wargear and drones and everything.

If you could post the list RunOn, I'd love to see it!

Deggy I saw your post I'll post my Tau army list also.
and I put it on the fourth page because I guess its illegal by the games workshop drones that I can't post unit stats on the internet. :madashel: :madashel: :madashel: :madashel:

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Old 31st Dec 03, 10:43 AM   # 32
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wow

I think I only understood about 2/3 of that post. I really should get the new rulebooks, haven't played in quite a while. it's what, 3rd edition now?

in any case, I wonder if Relic could include the option to parse a file like that and import it into the game.
 
Old 31st Dec 03, 11:34 AM   # 33
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Its from army builder
 
Old 31st Dec 03, 3:54 PM Forum Rules   # 34
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yeah, that looks pretty comprehensive Ender, ready for any threat!

Your stealth team only has 3 members... why so small? Do you find such a compact unit to be more effective or did you run out of points?

Overall you have a pretty low number of infantry, have you found greater success in your crisis suits?

If you had to drop down to 1500 pts, what would you sacrifice?

Have you had a battle with this list? If so, how did you fare?

I'm really intrigued by the jump packs ability to move in the assault phase. I'd love to see that in action in a heavily jungled or urbanized environment, where you could jump out from behind cover, shoot, and then jump back into cover. It seems like you could really concentrate fire and annihilate your way through an enemy army one unit at a time.

Overall, it looks like a solid list! I know I would have second thoughts before taking my Death Guard against you!
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Old 31st Dec 03, 5:02 PM   # 35
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For the record Ender, that list is too accurate. Relic could get in trouble from a post with that much detail on the list (:

General rule of thumb for posting lists online, post the unit name, and equipment it has. NEVER include itemized points costs [in fact its better to leave points costs out entirely]. Also NEVER post stats for the units.

Keeps everyone out of trouble should some GW bean counter happen across this board (:

An example would be as follows.

Imperial Guard 1850

Jr Officer Command Squad
-4x Flamers
-1x Power Weapon
-Chimera
--Smoke Launchers
--Pintle Mounted Storm Bolters
--Multi Laser
--Heavy Bolter

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--4x Flamers
--1x Power Weapon
--Chimera
---Multi Laser
---Heavy Bolter
-Infantry Squad
--Lascannon
--Grenade Launcher
-Infantry Squad
--Missile Launcher
--Plasma Gun

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--4x Flamers
--1x Power Weapon
--Chimera
---Multi Laser
---Heavy Bolter
-Infantry Squad
--Lascannon
--Plasma Gun
-Infantry Squad
--Heavy Bolter
--Plasma Gun

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--2x Flamers
--2x Melta Guns
--1x Power Weapon
-Infantry Squad
--Heavy Bolter
--Plasma Gun
-Infantry Squad
--Heavy Bolter
--Plasma Gun

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--2x Plasma Guns
--1x Power Weapon
-Infantry Squad
-Infantry Squad

Hellhound
-Smoke Launchers

Hellhound
-Smoke Launchers

Sentinel
-Multi Laser

Leman Russ
-Hull Heavy Bolter
-Sponsoon Heavy Bolters

Leman Russ Demolisher
-Hull Heavy Bolter
-Sponsoon Heavy Bolters

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Old 1st Jan 04, 12:28 AM   # 36
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Dark Eldar 0wnz j00! 101010 lolol.
Translation: Using Dark Eldar, I am assured of complete victory over thee.

Nasty spiky purple elfs rock.
 
Old 1st Jan 04, 12:56 AM   # 37
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Dark Eldar can slaughter everyone. Providing of course, that the DE player NEVER EVER makes a mistake in the execution of his army. Make no mistakes and you'll only have trouble against Necrons. Make a single mistake and expect to lose to everyone (:
 
Old 1st Jan 04, 10:57 AM   # 38
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I currently have played over the last year both World Eaters army and Necron army (that got a bit out of control, started as a 2000 point army but now its over 4000...oops). Way back, I played Eldar and Orks back in the Rogue Trader era. I've played Marines for years during 2nd edition and for a few years at the begining of 3rd till Necrons came out.
 
Old 1st Jan 04, 11:38 AM   # 39
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Quote:
Originally posted by IWAssassin
For the record Ender, that list is too accurate. Relic could get in trouble from a post with that much detail on the list (:

General rule of thumb for posting lists online, post the unit name, and equipment it has. NEVER include itemized points costs [in fact its better to leave points costs out entirely]. Also NEVER post stats for the units.

Keeps everyone out of trouble should some GW bean counter happen across this board (:

An example would be as follows.

Imperial Guard 1850

Jr Officer Command Squad
-4x Flamers
-1x Power Weapon
-Chimera
--Smoke Launchers
--Pintle Mounted Storm Bolters
--Multi Laser
--Heavy Bolter

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--4x Flamers
--1x Power Weapon
--Chimera
---Multi Laser
---Heavy Bolter
-Infantry Squad
--Lascannon
--Grenade Launcher
-Infantry Squad
--Missile Launcher
--Plasma Gun

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--4x Flamers
--1x Power Weapon
--Chimera
---Multi Laser
---Heavy Bolter
-Infantry Squad
--Lascannon
--Plasma Gun
-Infantry Squad
--Heavy Bolter
--Plasma Gun

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--2x Flamers
--2x Melta Guns
--1x Power Weapon
-Infantry Squad
--Heavy Bolter
--Plasma Gun
-Infantry Squad
--Heavy Bolter
--Plasma Gun

Infantry Platoon
-Command Squad
--2x Plasma Guns
--1x Power Weapon
-Infantry Squad
-Infantry Squad

Hellhound
-Smoke Launchers

Hellhound
-Smoke Launchers

Sentinel
-Multi Laser

Leman Russ
-Hull Heavy Bolter
-Sponsoon Heavy Bolters

Leman Russ Demolisher
-Hull Heavy Bolter
-Sponsoon Heavy Bolters

What will GW do sue me for posting my army builder list?
 
Old 1st Jan 04, 11:50 AM   # 40
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yeah, that looks pretty comprehensive Ender, ready for any threat!

Your stealth team only has 3 members... why so small? Do you find such a compact unit to be more effective or did you run out of points?

Overall you have a pretty low number of infantry, have you found greater success in your crisis suits?

If you had to drop down to 1500 pts, what would you sacrifice?

Have you had a battle with this list? If so, how did you fare?

I'm really intrigued by the jump packs ability to move in the assault phase. I'd love to see that in action in a heavily jungled or urbanized environment, where you could jump out from behind cover, shoot, and then jump back into cover. It seems like you could really concentrate fire and annihilate your way through an enemy army one unit at a time.

Overall, it looks like a solid list! I know I would have second thoughts before taking my Death Guard against you!

For the stealth team I basically ran out of points on that one I would probably take a second squad of three.
I have lo infrantry because mostly I play against space marine,orks,nids,chaos,and guard. So I want the AP stuff to take out all the big things that come towards me. I haven't played this list yet. I have I think a 1500 tau army but its bad, so I revamped it in army builder to make it better. But I can't really play much or buy much any more because my parents get on a hissy fit because I spend a lot of time on warhammer and sutch and they say its just a waste of money and time. But they say that to almost everything I do. If I had to drop to 1500 I would drop the krootox and the hounds.
 
Old 1st Jan 04, 1:35 PM Forum Rules   # 41
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Eldar!

Iyanden ELDAR
Biel Tan ELDAR
Ultwë ELDAR
Alaitoc ELDAR

Do I see a connection?
eldar, Eldar, ELDAR!

I've played WH40k since the start with different teams but really stuck with the Eldar because of their rich and interesting background, fluff and excellent models.
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What will GW do sue me for posting my army builder list?


Not you, rather Relic, the owners of RelicNews domain, etc. GW is REALLY facist about things like that. You'd be amazed how difficult it has become to look up stats on models these days from what it used to be, because yes GWs teams of Lawyers threaten lawsuits against everyone. "Take it down or else" with the same going to the provider of the site.
 
Old 1st Jan 04, 5:59 PM   # 43
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i have a imperial guard army "Macharia 27"... and yes it was the planet who was destroyed in the EoT, The planet next to Cadia... my army is abaut 2500 pts. and then i have a Eldar ulthwé army 3000 pts and last a SM its abaut 4000 Ultra marines.

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Old 1st Jan 04, 9:47 PM   # 44
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Old 2nd Jan 04, 4:52 AM   # 45
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The good thing about WH (40k and fantasy), is that no single army rules, mostly thanks to the balancing of the dev teams. As long as you know how to use the army, it's strong and weak points and those of your opponnent, you can win most battles with a bit of ingenuity and luck on the dice...

The old codices had a LOT of fluff, and interesting stuff to read about, which makes some of the older armies much more popular than the new ones (SM, Eldar, etc...).

That's a nice tau army, although the army list in a simplified form might be easier to read for people not used to using army builder...
 
Old 2nd Jan 04, 8:31 AM   # 46
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Simplified version
HQ
Aun'Shi-- 105

Elites
3Stealth Team-- 90

2Crisis Battlesuit Bust Cannon; Plasma Rifle; Multi Tracker-- 195

1Shas'vre Burst Cannon; Plasma Rifle; Multi tracker;Hard Wired Drone controller.-- 73

2Crisis Battlesuit Missle Pod; Plasma Rifle;Multi Tracker;Bonded-- 212

1Team Leader Missle Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi Tracker; Hard wired dron controller.-- 72

Troops
12Fire Warriors 4x Pulse Carbine 8x Pulse Rifle-- 120

12Fire Warriors 4x Pulse Carbine 8x Pulse Rifle-- 120

19Kroot Carnivores-- 257

1Kroot Shaper-- 29

1Kroot Hounds-- 12

1Kroot Hounds-- 12

1Krootox-- 50

Heavy
1HammerHead gunship-- 160

3Broadside Battlesuit team-- 225

Fast Attack
Pathfinders/Devilfish Dropship-- 164/80
Gun drones Pair.
 
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re: Tau

Tau actually aren't that difficult. What you have to remember is that you have the single most powerful basic 'gun' in the warhammer universe (in terms of raw strength) and not much in the way of wargear.

FireWarriors are very deadly when used properly and with a 50 pt ethereal, being able to re-roll all those morale checks is great (especially when you want to fail and catch a squad of BT in a rapid fire crossfire!).

The T'au are just horrible at close combat, so you need to be able to think ahead and realize that your firewarrior squads are expendable for the greater good of the entire army.

Kroot are just no good usually so I wouldn't waste points with that.

Also, don't mix carbines in unless absolutely necessary. The ability to pin someone doesn't really come in handy all that often.

A good 1500-1700 point force should have at least 3-4 full squads of firewarriors.

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Old 2nd Jan 04, 5:30 PM   # 48
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Much better Ender. Last thing we need is the GW Nazi's getting here. The GW Uber Geeks are fine, but not the Nazis (:
 
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Re: re: Tau

Quote:
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Tau actually aren't that difficult. What you have to remember is that you have the single most powerful basic 'gun' in the warhammer universe (in terms of raw strength) and not much in the way of wargear.

FireWarriors are very deadly when used properly and with a 50 pt ethereal, being able to re-roll all those morale checks is great (especially when you want to fail and catch a squad of BT in a rapid fire crossfire!).

The T'au are just horrible at close combat, so you need to be able to think ahead and realize that your firewarrior squads are expendable for the greater good of the entire army.

Kroot are just no good usually so I wouldn't waste points with that.

Also, don't mix carbines in unless absolutely necessary. The ability to pin someone doesn't really come in handy all that often.

A good 1500-1700 point force should have at least 3-4 full squads of firewarriors.

The armies I play are Dark Angels (SM), T'au, and Imperial Guard.

Like I said before fire warriors really do jack squat against space marines so I put in heavys and elites instead and put the kroot in so if the marines come to close I have a buffer.
 
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Why is GW so facist about unit stats on the internet :-/

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