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CHANGES IN 1.5
• Level thumbnails now list the player position races. Players
must choose the listed race when playing with the "Start
With" setting set to "HW1 Map Default".
• AI is now capable of controlling Keeper ships.
• Some modifications made to the Keeper ships to make them more
playable.

CHANGES IN 1.49
• Increased the default value of RUMulti from 4 to 8.
• PebMulti is now set to RUMulti / 4 by default.
• Increased FarClip value to 1000000 in "camera.lua".
• Gave the "kpr_sajuuk" a (non-functional) build ability so
that levels featuring this ship as the flagship don't
immediately end.
• Enlarged the text in the level thumbnails.
• Re-converted the level thumbnails using a newer version of
Spooky's ROTTool.
• Added "Coliseum of the Ancients".

CHANGES IN 1.48
• "IncFunctions.lua" was referencing "hgn_gunplatform", which
is not a functional .ship file.
• "IncFunctions.lua" was referencing "hgn_flakfrigate", which
is not a functional .ship file.
• Fixed issue with maps sometimes appearing completely white.
("IncFunctions.lua" was missing the "setGlareIntensity" and
"setLevelShadowColour" functions.)
• New thumbnails!

CHANGES IN 1.47
• Fixed the Vaygr starting fleet for when the "carrier only"
and "no research" modes are selected. Normal selection of
ships were appearing instead.
• Fixed the Vaygr starting fleet for when the "carrier only"
mode is selected. Typo was causing the game to crash.

CHANGES IN 1.46
• Slight change in the .ship file determining how crates are
displayed.
• The "destroy resourcers" rule no longer quits after two
minutes.
• The gamerule now produces fewer error messages than in the
previous version. This is mainly a cosmetic change, as the
errors were not critical.
• The game no longer hangs when a crate is spawned. (This bug
was introduced in the previous version.)
• Fixed the bug where the directory containing the tweaked
Vaygr carrier was misnamed. (This bug was introduced in the
previous version.)

CHANGES IN 1.45
• The order in which the "Capture Capship" rule checks whether
a player is being captured has been randomized.
• The order in which the "Capture Capship" rule checks whether
a player is doing the capturing has been randomized.
• The order in which the "Crates" rule checks whether a player
is within a certain radius of a crate has been randomized.
• Bounties are now displayed from top to bottom, instead of
from bottom to top.
• Added a significant amount of additional comments to the code.
• Resourcers are now destroyed by the "Resourcing Disabled"
rule, not simply despawned.
• The tweaked Vaygr modules are now restricted when the "Start
With" mode is set to "HW1 Map Default".
• Hiigaran research modules are no longer a restricted build
item when the "Research" mode is set to "Off". (Woops!)
• You no longer start out with a research module already-built
when the "Research" mode is set to "Off".
• Research modules are no longer innate and indestructible when
the "Research" mode is set to "Off".
• You can now research all the carrier upgrades in carrier-only
battles.
• The tweaked Vaygr carrier's point-defense guns should be
fixed, now.
• The advanced research module is no longer required to build
the fire control tower when the "Research" mode is set to
"Off". (This means you only need to build the regular
research module in order to build all ships/subsystems.)
• The advanced research module is now a restricted build item
when the "Research" mode is set to "Off".
• Changed the naming scheme for altered ships, modules,
subsystems, research and starting fleets.
• The "DestroyResourcersRule" rule now stops running after two
minutes.

CHANGES IN 1.44
• Fixed the bug where the "HW1 Map Default" option was
considered equivalent to the "Carrier Only" option when
determining mothership/carrier crate awards.
• Increased the number of options available to modders in
"HWClassicRebalance_Config.lua" when specifying the types of
build/research items that should be restricted by a gamerule.
• One can now specify per-gamerule research restrictions in
"HWClassicRebalance_Config.lua".
• Re-added the checks for whether crate awards are restricted
before awarding them to the player.
• Added a check to see whether research is restricted before
awarding it to the player.
• Found a few instances where speed could be optimized by
reducing the number of times a gamerule iterates through a
table. (Successful matches are now stored in new variables.)
• Split some of the code into new functions.
• Fixed the bug that caused resouce collectors not to be
removed by the "Resourcing Disabled" rule.
• Speech is now played prior to a player's death, instead of
after, when a player is killed by the "Capture Capship" rule.
• The orientation of the HW1 map-default squadrons has been
fixed.
• Bounties are now taken into account when determining crate
positions.
• Implemented the HCPI_PlayerColour variable in "ATI.lua", but
it doesn't seem to work.
• The crate's description has been changed to read "Crate"
instead of "Debris".

CHANGES IN 1.43
• Increased the "RUMulti" variable in "Iron Curtain" from 4
(the default) to 16. (Needed to cut down on the number of
overlapping asteroids.)
• Crates can now be selected using the mouse.
• I re-converted the maps using a newer version of my map
converter.
• The "HW1 Map Default" option has been added to the "Start
With" setting. Now you can play a map with whatever ships are
set in the level file.
• Removed "HyperspaceRecoveryTimeUpgrade2" from the list of
crate tech awards. (Research doesn't exist.)

CHANGES IN 1.42
• Tidied up a few corners in the code.
• Increased "RUMulti" variable in "Radial Symmetry" from 4 (the
default) to 16. (Needed to cut down on the number of
overlapping asteroids.)
• I re-converted the maps using a newer version of my map
converter.
• Compiled the maps using LuaC for a slight boost in frame-rate.
• Shipyards are disabled by the "Carrier Only" rule, again.

CHANGES IN 1.41
• I re-converted the maps using a different converter (also
available at my website).
• The RU values listed in the asteroids' ".resource" files have
been reduced to 100 to fit the new conversion scheme.
• Various graphical changes to the asteroids.
• Removed the Perl map-conversion script, as it has been
depracated.

CHANGES IN 1.4
• Modules added by the "Research Off" rule are now
indestructible (again..).
• Removed the HW1 starting resources options, as the two games'
RU values are incompatible, anyway.
• The second Generic hardpoint on the Vaygr carrier and
mothership are now disabled in the "Research Off" game mode.
As a result cloaking, hyperspace, platforms, etc., are no
longer available for building when both the "Carrier Only"
and "Research Off" modes are enabled. This will remain the
case until tweaked versions of the Hiig carrier and
mothership .HODs are made with an additional Generic
hardpoint for Advanced Research modules, only. Previously,
the Vaygr had an unfair advantage. [no longer true as of
v1.45]
• Fixed the bug where the Generic hardpoints were unusable in
the "Research Off" modes.
• Fixed the bug where crates were automatically awarded to
Player 1.

CHANGES IN 1.39
• Changed to a different method of displaying some on-screen
messages.
• Simplified the unit restriction system.
• The "Research Off" rule now creates unretirable research
modules. They can be damaged, but not destroyed, and, they
regenerate quickly.
• Restriction tables in "HWClassicRebalance_Config.lua" now
make more sense.
• The "Crates Enabled" rule no longer checks if any player-
owned megaliths are in the vicinity.
• "HWClassicRebalance.cfg" was renamed back to
"HWClassicRebalance_Config.lua".
• Some more optimizations made for speed.

CHANGES IN 1.38
• "HWClassicRebalance_Config.lua" was renamed to
"HWClassicRebalance.cfg".
• Changed the "Carrier Only" option back to the way it was
originally. [this option will probably make another
appearance at some point in the future...]
• Another fix. Can't remember what.

CHANGES IN 1.37
• "ModCheckList.lua" was renamed to
"HWClassicRebalance_Config.lua", and was moved outside the
.big file to the "Homeworld2\Bin\Gamerules" directory.
• Bugfix: Bounties work properly again.

CHANGES IN 1.36
• Converted the ".tga" map thumbnails to ".dds" to conserve
space.

CHANGES IN 1.35
• The "Research Off" rule no longer builds research modules, as
recycling them at the beginning of the game would give a
player an instant cash bonus. [this has changed again as of
v1.39]
• The HW Classic-specific gamerule text descriptions are no
longer stored in "homeworldclassic.dat". This means that
players of non-English versions of the Homeworld 2 will no
longer see gibberish in the game setup screen.
• Fixed the bug whereby selecting the "Resource Lump Sum" and
"After 40 Minutes" options would cause the game to crash.
• Fixed some discrepencies in regards to ship probabilities.

CHANGES IN 1.34
• Bugfixes.
• Split the "Carrier Only" option into the "Carrier" and
"Carrier Only" options. The "Carrier" option allows the
building of shipyards, while the "Carrier Only" option does
not.
• The "Destroy Mothership" rule now supports one or more types
of mothership-class vessels.
• Mothership and carrier tables are now generated only once
(speed optimization).

CHANGES IN 1.33
• Crate awards are now printed to the screen.

CHANGES IN 1.32
• Refined the table structure.
• Restrictions [added in v1.3] on crate-spawning of prohibited
items have been removed due to balancing reasons.

CHANGES IN 1.31
• Now works properly if the "BuildCarrierReplaced" and
"BuildCarrierReplacedBy" tables are removed from
"ModChecklist.Lua". [no longer true as of v1.34]

CHANGES IN 1.3
• Overrides of "Homeworld2.big" have been limited to
"build.lua" and "shipicons.lua".
• Modder-friendly: modders now only have to make adjustments to
"ModCheckList.lua" in order to get Homeworld Classic to work
with their mods. [note: "ModChecklist.lua" has been renamed
to "HWClassicRebalance_Config.lua"]
• Crates no longer spawn items prohibited by gamerules. [no
longer true as of v1.32]
• Tweaked Vaygr carrier is now enabled.

CHANGES IN 1.21
• Bugfixes.

CHANGES IN 1.2
• Shipyards are now disabled in carrier-only battles.
• The remainder of HW2's default Deathmatch options have been
added to Homeworld Classic.
• The "Destroy Mothership" rule now works properly.

CHANGES IN 1.1
• This mod now works properly with the original HW2 maps, the
HW1 maps included with version 1.0 (the original version,
created by Luke Moloney) of this mod, as well as any custom
maps located in the
"Homeworld2\data\leveldata\multiplayer\deathmatch" folder.
The exceptions are any maps that you, yourself, convert using
the Perl HW1 to HW2 level converter. Do not use this
converter, as the output is longer compatible with the mod.
• Three additions have been made to the "Starting Resources"
option: "HW2 Small", "HW2 Medium", and "HW2 Large".

CHANGES IN 1.0
• Original version created by Luke 'B1FF' Moloney.

StartShipHardPointConfig(NewShipType, "Production 1", "HardPoint_Production1", "System", "Production", "Destroyable", "", "Vgr_C_Production_Fighter", "Vgr_C_Production_Corvette", "Vgr_C_Production_Frigate", "", "", "", "", "");

StartShipHardPointConfig(NewShipType, "Production 1", "HardPoint_Production1", "System", "Production", "Destroyable", "", "Vgr_C_Production_Frigate", "", "", "", "", "", "", ""); StartShipHardPointConfig(NewShipType, "Production 2", "HardPoint_Production2", "System", "Production", "Destroyable", "", "Vgr_C_Production_Fighter", "", "", "", "", "", "", ""); StartShipHardPointConfig(NewShipType, "Production 3", "HardPoint_Production3", "System", "Production", "Destroyable", "", "Vgr_C_Production_Corvette", "", "", "", "", "", "", "");

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5th Jan 04, 9:21 PM	# 2
ÜberJumper www.relicnews.com Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: South Surrey, BC Canada	I don't believe Vaygr carrier guns were fixed in this mod, as the carrier only game allows for 3 build subsystems on the vaygr carrier, but doesn't have the right settings for the guns.

8th Jan 04, 5:31 PM	# 3
Thousand Guest	Another point: Module slots. Vaygr only needs one module filled up to get their whole fleet. Higgy, on the other hand, need both a research module and an advanced research module. With only two module slots on carriers, This gives Vaygr an unfair advantage, as they can have a full array of frigates, as well as benefit from extra modules, as opposed to Higgy, who choose between the bulk of their frigates or the benefits of a module. Best way to do it would be add a third module slot to each carrier. Vaygr still have an advantage, but not quite as large of one. Another way would be to "combine" the research and advanced research modules for Higgy, but I think this would make Higgy too powerful...

12th Jan 04, 7:14 AM	# 4
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	See first post... Last edited by Mikail : 17th Jan 04 at 11:42 PM.

12th Jan 04, 8:10 AM	# 5
fluffypuppy Guest	haven't tried the new version yet, but i had a problem with the earlier version. the resourcing was screwed up. resourcers would harvest an asteroid and then it would be quickly depleeted. the resourcer would then stop resourcing and stay there doing nothing even if a full asteroid was just a few paces away. you had to tell all the resourcers what to do every second. very anoying. then when i played under the normal HW2 rules, the asteroids would only hold a very small amount of RUs. i un-installed the thing. should i get the newer version? i'd like to play the HW2 maps with the new options, i just want to be able to resource though.

12th Jan 04, 9:25 AM	# 6
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	Resourcing works fine on the HW2 maps with this new version. I'm working on fixing the resourcing on the HW1 maps. I'm not sure regarding the weird behavior you're describing. I've never noticed it. Last edited by Mikail : 7th Feb 04 at 2:44 PM.

13th Jan 04, 12:29 PM	# 7
fluffypuppy Guest	will try the new version. i did enjoy it, and now that resourcing is fixed, it should be even better. yeah, the feeling i had with the resourcers was that it was almost as if they were blind. or like they "forgot" they had work to do. there would be maybe 500 RUs in an asteroid. a few seconds later, you'd here the "there's nothing out here" line. strange thing was how this same behavior and asteroid resource level remained whn playing on the regular HW2 game rules. anyway, i'm sure that's all moot. will try new one soon.

14th Jan 04, 5:38 AM	# 8
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	I noticed this in SP when I bought the game. It was because I hadn't scouted out the resource patch. The collectors didn't know it was there because it hadn't fallen within sensors range, yet.

14th Jan 04, 2:47 PM	# 9
fluffypuppy Guest	hmm... i don't know what the problem was, but whatever it was, it's gone now. i tried the new version. yum. me likes! i did notice something however. i was playing the "carrier only" way. i was vaygr. now, building the shipyard requires the hyperspace module... but i almost filled the slot with something else. if i had... i wouldn't have been able to build the shipyard and therefore, no capital ships. very sneaky.

14th Jan 04, 3:09 PM	# 10
Homer Jr. The kids can call you HoJu! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA	You can always retire your modules and get the RUs back though. Definitely an inconvenience though.

14th Jan 04, 5:32 PM	# 11
FluxX Guest	Also, RCs wil not automatically go onto the next PATCH (note, the Resouce asteriods are in patches now, not idividual). The RC only looks at its own little patch (this combines any near by ones, and any debris). Its like this to stop your RCs going to the enimy base automatically to get some RU. And works well. However, the old HW1 maps don't seem to use these patches, and so, when 1 asteroid is used, the RC is not linked onto the next. (Also notice how you now have individual asteriod RU ammount, and group/patch RU amount.) - Techy, a wealth of knowledge, Ben -

16th Jan 04, 8:12 AM	# 13
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	I uploaded version 1.1 FINAL (the mod is no longer in beta). See the first post. Last edited by Mikail : 18th Jan 04 at 1:12 AM.

16th Jan 04, 8:50 AM	# 14
ÜberJumper www.relicnews.com Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: South Surrey, BC Canada	The ATI.lua is for the interface changes to support displaying bounties I believe. Teamcolour.lua... not sure... perhaps it changes black type colours to pink as in HW? :-)

16th Jan 04, 11:45 AM	# 15
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	Could someone give a list of exactly which module slots each race's carrier has? From what I understand, Hiig has an extra production slot AND an extra miscellaneous slot. Could the extra production slot be removed, but the extra miscellaneous slot be left in?

17th Jan 04, 2:51 PM	# 17
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	If anyone knows how to get the "Map Default" starting RU's option from deathmatch.lua into homeworldclass.lua, please post here. I looked at deathmatch.lua, and couldn't find anything in it that related to it. Homeworldclassic.lua, on the other hand, has lots of stuff in it, and is generally easier to figure out what's going on. [edit] Nevermind, I figured it out. Last edited by Mikail : 17th Jan 04 at 8:46 PM.

18th Jan 04, 2:18 PM	# 19
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	I've updated the mod to v1.2. See the first post of this thread. I don't forsee myself making any more changes in the near future, as things are starting to go a little bit over my head. Anyway, this release is pretty solid. The other stuff listed in my first post is pretty peripheral and would take a good deal of time and effort. Last edited by Mikail : 27th Jan 04 at 5:53 AM.

19th Jan 04, 9:41 AM	# 20
DrunkPSA Guest	Um hiig has 2 extra spots... since they can have fighter/vette/frig, but vaygr has to choose 1. Both have 2 miscellaneous spots. But Hiig has 3 production and Vaygr has 1.

20th Jan 04, 6:12 PM	# 22
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	Version 1.21 has been uploaded. It fixes several problems introduced in v1.2.

20th Jan 04, 9:59 PM	# 23
nidhogg13 Guest	erm...the file doesnt unzip(or whatever format it is) for me...using winrar...says its corrupted... is it just me?

21st Jan 04, 12:42 PM	# 24
Thousand Guest	Winzip gives a corrupted archive error as well. The readme extracts, but the grm1 will not.

21st Jan 04, 1:09 PM	# 25
Uranium - 235 Guest	Can this mod be dumped into an existing mod, as in, are the changes unique to the gametypes, or will it screw up carriers for EVERY mod? Anyway for the module slots just make the research module cost more, take longer, but works like an Adv.

21st Jan 04, 7:11 PM	# 28
nidhogg13 Guest	send it to me (firedragon3@mindspring.com) and ill upload it onto my clan forums until you find a better place.... if you want

22nd Jan 04, 5:57 AM	# 30
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	Yay it finally worked! Download is fixed, now.

22nd Jan 04, 4:25 PM	# 31
Drache Guest	I have a question...I want to make resource injections for my mod, but I have run into a whole bunch of problems in my attempts. How was it done in the HW Classic mod? I would be happy to give credit in my mod if anyone can tell me how to do it...

22nd Jan 04, 7:45 PM	# 33
Drache Guest	Mikail, I am forever in your debt! I extracted the grm1 file and reverse engineered the resource injections function without any problems! After days of frustration you have finally given me a solution, and a beautifully simple one at that! Thank you! :sci: This leaves me with only one question...how shall I give credit to those who have helped me with my project? Shall I just put it in the readme? I feel you guys deserve more, I'd like to add a credits screen or something to the game if I can, but for now I'll just start collecting a list of names to put in the readme.

22nd Jan 04, 8:11 PM	# 34
nidhogg13 Guest	Cool...im assuming you dont need the original for this?

22nd Jan 04, 10:46 PM	# 38
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	I don't understand the probabilities of a crate spawning a particular item. For instance, the platform class has a probability of 0.8, while the Vagyr gun platform, missle platform, and hyperspace gate have probabilities of 0.4, 0.8, and 1.0. How do these numbers add up?

22nd Jan 04, 10:55 PM	# 39
varis Guest	There is also a resource injections script from Thought, which I've modified a bit for my purposes, too. About giving credit, see this thread: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthr...&threadid=23624

25th Jan 04, 1:31 PM	# 41
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	Yes, thanks!

28th Jan 04, 10:15 PM	# 44
varis Guest	Can I redistribute the Vaygr Carrier .hod? I'm thinking of adding a module slot on the nose, for a gun... maybe some gun hardpoints too... And this would be better to base on a .hod that is already extended, so we can redistribute a ship to the community that is easy to extend for various purposes.

2nd Feb 04, 10:32 PM	# 46
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	I've released v1.3 of Homeworld Classic Rebalance. HW Classic is now modder-friendly. You only have to make adjustments to "ModCheckList.lua", "build.lua", and "shipicons.lua" (and maybe "races.lua") in order to get Homeworld Classic to work with your mods. Make sure you mimic the table structure exactly, in "ModCheckList.lua", when adding new races. Also, make sure the races are in the correct order. Last edited by Mikail : 20th Feb 04 at 1:55 PM.

20th Feb 04, 11:08 AM	# 47
fluffypuppy Guest	BUMP! this thread should be in "completed mods" section, no?

23rd Feb 04, 6:38 PM	# 48
Mikail Lost in the Web... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: %HW2_ROOT%	Try PMing the moderator.

29th Mar 04, 2:02 AM	# 49
crabcakes66 Guest	Any chance of seeing a version that is compatible with seige mod? Edit: the regular Classic mod works ok but yours doesnt seem to. It would also be great if you could fix the unit caps to include stations and cruisers.

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