Buguba

I don't actually have a subscription to PC Gamer (or the magazine where this is mentioned), but I saw this on the official forums and thought it was interesting. I'll copy/paste the post and provide a link to it as well:

http://community.dawnofwar2.com/forums/topic/34160

Posted by flamingkillamajig on Dawn of War 2 community forums:



Glad to hear about the Librarian. He sounds wicked awesome. I'm not so sure about the 15 missions though. The current campaign had more than that for the storyline. It's difficult to say though, because there might be a much higher investment of effort in these 15 missions than in the "storyline" missions of the current DoW 2 campaign. The lack of "annoying non-story" missions seems suspect as well. Assuming that's referring to optional missions (which it might not be), the problem was that they were repetitive, not that they were boring. The campaign would be *much* worse IMO if they were taken out. Relic needs to improve upon them, not remove them.

Any queries for more information should go to the thread in the official forum. Like I said, I don't have the magazine myself.

EDIT: Moar info,

Chaos Von Draco

Sounds cool I like the tainted effects so far. Finally we get a librarian as well.

Akranadas

I wonder if you'll fight along side other Allies besides Space Marines, perhaps more Imperial Guard units, Eldar or hell; why not Orks?

FooF

Librarian in SP practically guarantees Librarian in MP.

There is absolutely no way they'd put him in SP and leave him out of MP. Huge find here.

Impressive stats on the weapons. The question I have is if you are "fully corrupted" do you actually become Chaos? Indeed, there has to be a different endings depending on how corrupted you are.

CommissarRezail

AHHHH YEAAAAHHHH LIBBBY BACK. "Fear not the pysker" because he has arrived.

FooF

"HE OF THE LONG BUILD TIME HAS RETURNED"

Assuming, of course, that the Libby is a Commander, that also has implications for the other races and their Commander line up. It's the first real piece of info that kinda-sorta-not really-but-it-makes-too-much-sense-not-to confirms extra commanders.

konfeta

Please have smite as the starting ability, please have smite as the starting ability, PLEASE HAVE SMITE AS THE STARTING ABILITY!

Ah... So happy!

I wonder, did they raise the 4 deployed squads limit for the campaign?



Agawds! Truly, a more blasphemous act has never been dreamed of by the foulest of heretics!

The Voltr0n

woot... sounds good... lib will be a fun unit to have

Shinova

Ha! Who called extra commanders first!?

konfeta

A whole bunch of people when it was announced that Librarian wasn't one of the commanders in the SM line up for DoW 2?

The Voltr0n

snap...

gorays

Sounds great.

Misiok

How would this work, 2 Pure squads fighting Chaos along 2 Fully Tainted I wonder.

Shinova

@ konfeta

Ah, but when Chaos Rising was announced who was it that first suggested..... oh just die.

LoneWolf666

Surely not the Librarian. He of the long build time.

Some really good news there. Hopefully we'll get a first good campaign since DoW1.

Zerobarat1

So ... if the space marines get an extra hero , that would imply that the other races will gain one extra hero of their own right? Bloody hell that would be awesome

Kharrak

Remember, as FooF also suggested, we don't know 100% if the Librarian will make it in as another Commander, possibly as an elite unit. Yes, it may make sense to make him a CO, but Relic *may* have differing reasons.

Romanov77

We really need optional missions....that make the campaign much longer and interesting. If you don't like them, skip them.

Gorb

So . . . we can turn Tarkus into a Plague Marine?

Bang goes my idea of playing through as uncorrupted first time round. Free Chaos Gods for all! Now, if you excuse me, I have to run and shout "Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" out the nearest window as an exclamation of pure joy and rainbows

Kharrak

If you could choose the mark... having Cyrus fall to Slaanesh would be... a tad awkward. NINJA STREAKER

Squiq

rofl @ ninja streaker

im wondering how thule will get affected by corruption
change his whole dread armour? poor thule falling to chaos

The Voltr0n

it should be impossible for thule to change, since he's served for so long... but i hope the visual effects of corruption show even without the wargear =D

TornadoADV

Time to whip out the old titlebar sigs for the Librarian!

Pocktio

Bah no way am I letting my delightful squad of Blood Ravens turn to Chaos.

Grimdark

@The Voltr0n
Loyalist Dreads sometimes take transition from mortal shell to walking sarcophagus not too well. There might be a malfunction in the Machine Spirit, maybe the old wounds hurt too much to bear, maybe he lusts for blood on his hands again a bit too much, maybe in the long millennia he saw things that even his trained mind cannot contain..

And then he SNAPS.

The_nuketrooper

So far so good. I hope the choices one makes in the campaign would not be only binary with pure "good" and pure "bad" but rather be in the grey area - "Should I obey my commands and torch the entire city in order to purge some heretics (pure) or should I disobey my supperiors and take the matter into my own hads, trying to save the civilians, knowing that there is a good chance for things to spiral out of control and taint the entire population of the planet ( corrupt)?" Heck - why even not based on the outcome of the mission - actually managing to save the civilians would provide massive bonuses in as they would be forever in your debt.

Oh well one may have dreams, right?
I hope the consequence of being pure or corrupt will not only be limited only to wargear and allies who go " O, Hai - let's go fight the baddies, I will die in 3 seconds though" / " O, Hai - you corrupted and I fight you and die in 3 seconds but give you some XP" but would have serious impact on the whole story and NPC behaviour - in and off mission.


I place my money on the Librarian being the 4th commander. Can't really see him as a regular unit. Unless he is a part of squad for some reason he would be the only infantry unit that acts solo, with the exception of the commanders. And I don't believe one would be able to deploy more than one Lib - so that would make him the only hard-capped unit in the game.

That is ofcourse unless other races get something units like that. (Elf harlequin?)

BL4zD

I hope only the marines selected for the mission experience changes to their alignment. I might want to keep 1-2 squads pure to play with a couple friends.

phoenixzs

I am pretty quite sure that Librarian is 4th choice in SM commader choices.It would be a pretty weak assumption that Relic is adding him in to the game which serves the commader role in the campaigh+can equip commander items to be secondary character in multiplayer.

But if I am wrong I wouldnt moan and cry if he was a secondary commander like chaplin/sorceress etc (Snifff ... I miss those guys )

Hamsterminator

Surely you wont be able to corrupt individual squads individually. How would that work in the storyline? Oh, so your a religous zealot who purges aliens and heretics on a daily basis, but your team mate is a slave to chaos. I don't see that working somehow.

Grifthin

Can anybody perhaps post scans of the PC gamer ? That way those of us in other countries can also read them with much joy. Thanks in advance.

Saias

copyright Grifthin, anyone who posts a scan will likely get a ban or a warning.

Kharrak

Plus, judging from what was written, there don't seem to be any new screens, simply ones we've already seen.

Malachi

@the_nuketrooper: I agree that Libby should be the 4th commander choice, but you're totally wrong saying that there are no single infantry or hard capped units in the game... Lictors and Zoans are single, and the Avatar is hard capped, obviously.

I really wonder what new commander will Orkz and Eldar get, as for Nids it of course has to be the Spore Mine Alpha... :-D

The_nuketrooper

Oh ..bah I forgot about those :P Erm ok - still I can't see him walking around alone as a regular unit :]

MinoSLO

What? We are getting a Librarian? Will he send his enemies notices when they don't return their books on time and such? Or will it be that stereotipe female librarian, quiet and calm on the outside, psycho/sexy on the inside. /joke
Malachi i bet it will be carnifex alpha tho.

Gorb

So the mention a while back that each squad has it's own Corruption bar somehow passed you by, eh?

As for being a religious zealot; the Blood Ravens (and indeed Space Marines as a whole) aren't necessary zealots. The Space Wolves in particular still revere the Emperor as a powerful man and their gene-father, but not a god (I'm not sure how many of the newer Chapters have taken to the Imperial Creed, but Space Marines used to view the Ecclesiarchy and all it stood for with distaste). Also, the powers of Chaos are many and varied, and you may also not notice the signs of corruption amongst your battle-Brothers until it's too late, or you yourself have fallen (even partially) into the twisted embrace of Chaos.

EDIT: The Eldar will probably get an Autarch or the Exarch of whatever new Aspect Relic decide to introduce in the expansion. The Orks . . . I dunno. Tankbusta Nob? Squig Rider ()? The Tyranids are perhaps the most predictable - they're obviously saving the Broodlord/Genestealer pairing for an expansion of some sort.

Ifitmovesnukeit

There's still the Mad Dok for orks. Cyborks ftw!



'fraid someone's already called it. Spore Mine Alpha it is.

Kharrak

Orks have Weirdboy and Mad Dok.
Eldar, Autarch of some sort as Gorb states, possibly a harlequin variety CO?
Tyranids, Broodlord or Zoanhtrope Alpha. The latter would provide the most diverse gameplay, so it may be the more likely depending on how you see things.

Tyconius

Khorne, Nurgle and Tzeetch confirmed. Waiting for Slaanesh now.

Troubleshooter

"Planet aurelia, lost in the warp for a thousand years... has returned. The planet should be a lifeless rock of barren ice, but signals have been detected from its surface. Somewhere down there, a hoard of overdue library books, relics of the chapter, must be returned... for the emperor."

Cut to Chaos lord...

"YOUR SLAVERY TO THE FALSE EMPEROR ENDS TODAY... AND THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I AM PAYING 19,984.03 RU FOR THIS COPY OF TROPIC OF CANCER!!!"

CommissarRezail

O.o must been one hell of a book, but libby being back in is awsome.

I wonder what type of sqaud will he be attach to in campaign or will he just give advice from afar like the apoth and tech marines -.-....

Akagi_Ryu

Somehow, a full fledged war campaign built on the concept of an overdue issue of White Dwarf would somehow seem... so friggin kickass

Sesshyru

Source?

Anybody think they will add in other campaign options? I mean I know a LOT of people who are sick and tired of Space Marines.. Doesn't seem lie it would be hard to invent new campaigns.. But what do I kno - I am just a Mech. Engy.; nota game developer.

Makenshi

IIRC that was me

LoneWolf666

I think that was everyone.

Makenshi

I may be wrong, but I'm almost sure that I'm right. It was me who first mentioned "damn, would chaos get 4 commanders, that would put all 4 gods in; but all races would need 4th commander!".

LoneWolf666

Except that that everyone who pondered a potential Chaos expansion thought 4 commanders, you're right.

Hirmetrium

God, I called it before the game was even announced. Seriously, extra commanders are a given.

LoneWolf666

That's what I mean. Hell, I first pondered a 4th commander choice in an expansion when I learned there was no librarian in DoW2. It's kind of obvious.

Altough the question was "who posted it first on this forum" so...

The libby ought to look really nice in 30 level blues... (Oranges? Reds? Rainbows?)