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Old 18th Dec 05, 8:58 PM Forum Rules   # 1
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Aborted Homeworld script by Peter Watts!

Hey guys I just found something pretty cool in _Agent_'s Rifters link from my Awesome Pictures thread. He posted a website by an author of the Rifter's series of books. The author is a quite good sci-fi writer (I read Starfish, the first of the series) and he says that he was writing a script set in the Homeworld universe for Relic!

If you go to the Gallery section in the NOW part of the website you may see something pretty familiar. To be quick here is the gallery section. Look at the 3rd image in the second column. That's Karan S'jet.

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Originally Posted by Peter Watts (Author of the quite excellent series of which I only read Starfish)
Rob Cunningham rendered this character for Relic Entertainment´s RTS computer game Homeworld 2. Her name is Karan S´jet, and while she doesn´t appear in any of my fiction (except for an aborted script I worked on briefly for Relic a few years back), Rob tells me the look was inspired by Lenie Clarke´s diveskin. So what the hell; it qualifies (for the gallery)


RELIC WAS HAVING A NOVEL WRITTEN IN THE HOMEWORLD UNIVERSE BY PETER WATTS!

I want more information on this!

Can one of the moderators e-mail this guy and find out more about this "aborted script"?

So coincidental that his website is posted here and that I randomly go to that section.

EDIT -----------------------------------------------------

Just found something cool on the Rifters site. He has the full text of Starfish and Maelstrom on the site for free. These are the first 2 books in the Rifters series. I own Starfish but I don't have it with me and I haven't read it in a while so this is awesome that I can still read it without having to buy it again. I hope some of you guys read it and get a taste of the style the aborted Homeworld script could have been written in.

Here is the link.

Be warned these are full novels and if you print it out do two pages per sheet and have lots of paper ready.
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Old 18th Dec 05, 9:06 PM Child's Play Donator Forum Rules   # 2
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Spiffy stuff

I want more HW
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Old 18th Dec 05, 9:08 PM Forum Rules   # 3
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Holy shit. I would totally buy a novel set in the Homeworld universe. Why would they abort it? AND WHY WEREN'T WE INFORMED OF THIS?
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Because it was aborted. It probably started a stem cell line somewhere.
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Because it was aborted.

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Old 18th Dec 05, 9:18 PM Forum Rules   # 6
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Guys, please don't make my thread crash and burn before the first page is over. I think this is pretty cool and I think we should pursue it a bit.
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Old 18th Dec 05, 9:19 PM   # 7
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Seconded! We must have the HW novel... NOW!

* Dj utilizes his trikki ninja skillz to go kidnap the author, and force him to write.
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Old 18th Dec 05, 9:29 PM Child's Play Donator Forum Rules   # 8
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A good HW novel could really garner interest in the game, to bad Sierra killed both
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Old 18th Dec 05, 9:53 PM   # 9
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"aborted script" doesn't mean an aborted novel. It might have been a HW expansion or HW2 (hmm... come to think of it HW2's script has been aborted but the game lived on... Lemme fixxit...)
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Old 18th Dec 05, 9:58 PM Child's Play Donator Forum Rules   # 10
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Sadly, HW2 had many aborted scripts, my favorite being Dustwars, all were better than the actual one that came out with the game. The problem was that they never finished those story lines because Sierra/VU rushed the release
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Old 18th Dec 05, 10:25 PM Child's Play Donator   # 11
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Okay...cool. Glad someone found a use for that site.

Oh, and I know I mentioned it before...but if you want really, really intense sci-fi...read the Rifter Series. Peter Watts is a god among mortals.

For those who have read it (or at least Starfish)....did anyone else feel sorry for Gerry? Or am I just wierd? I feel so bad for the man, despite everything else. Poor Gerry.

To say nothing of the sh*t Lenie went through.


Out of the four books, the first two are, IMO of course, the best. Number 3 and 4 just didn't have the same...rugged...feel to them. They were good, do not doubt...but not in the exotic and captivating style of the first two.

Peter Watts.....very, very cool man. He got me intersted (er obessed) with the deep ocean. And my god, is there alot to learn. There is even a greater among to discover.

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Old 18th Dec 05, 10:31 PM Child's Play Donator Forum Rules   # 12
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I'm always a bit skeptical of gods among mortals. We'll see.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 5:16 AM Child's Play Donator Forum Rules   # 13
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Can one of the moderators e-mail this guy and find out more about this "aborted script"?


Why don't you email this guy? We're not any more special then you are. Well, I'm "special", but that's something else really
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Old 19th Dec 05, 5:48 AM Forum Rules   # 14
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As others have said, games have scripts too, not just movies.

I'd imagine that's what he was talking about. If Serenity can't do well in the theatres, I can't imagine Homeworld being much of a winning movie proposition.
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I believe Peter Watts was the writer of the so-called "Homeworld Empire" script that was, at one time, scheduled to be HW2. A bit of it was released by Rob C. (IIRC) a while back with some other pre-HW2 stuff (don't know if that's all that was completed, or if there's more out there than what was released), and it formed the basis for my sig.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 11:12 AM Forum Rules   # 16
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I seem to recall that there was an entire forum devoted to Homeworld fiction.

Hmmm.... must have all been a dream.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 11:41 AM Forum Rules   # 17
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NOVA DEMANDS AN ANSWER FOR THIS.

Get uber's ass in here we demand an explanation. But seriously, a homeworld novel would seriously kick ass; more room for story detail on event of the whole plot of the original homeworld. It could open a whole new perspective on the game.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 12:16 PM Forum Rules   # 18
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Moe - Well I was thinking that since some you mods have connections at Relic (i.e. Uber has lots of connections) you would have a better chance of getting more out of any contact with him than I would. But if you insist I'll email him. He seems to be a really cool guy, read his quasi-blog thing it has lots of awesome developments in science.

Oh and judging by what WAS released by Relic in terms of the Empires script (for example what is in Pierce's sig) it would have been fucking amazing.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 12:21 PM Forum Rules   # 19
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They shoulda completed it in time for my flight, it woulda been the perfect distraction on a long flight.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 12:22 PM Forum Rules   # 20
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A Homeworld novel would be plain sweet. There are lots of ways you could write it too.

Imagine a book written from the perspetive of a scout pilot, or the commander of say an assault frig.


It could start out as thier childhood on Kharak, being chosen for the pilot academy, the grueling training etc. Finally getting thier ship and doing the practice runs around the Scaffold. The first jump, engaging the Tauranics etc.

Could be a very massive novel by the time a good author was done.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 12:25 PM Forum Rules   # 21
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I should release that other script stuff RobC got to me a while ago. I keep forgetting about it.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 12:39 PM Forum Rules   # 22
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Are you kidding!?
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Old 19th Dec 05, 12:50 PM Forum Rules   # 23
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he has a kid, if that's what you mean
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Old 19th Dec 05, 1:08 PM Forum Rules   # 24
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Kidding about what? Forgetting stuff? I usually have a really good memory, but in the last couple of years I'm getting more and more forgetful.

I think it's the anesthetic. I always feel dumb after surgery.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 2:06 PM Forum Rules   # 25
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*stares at uber in disbelief


You have scripts!?!? Release them man, are you crazy?


Seriously, you have some scripts? Awesome.
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Dispatch ninja pirates, and let them know about ÜberJr and the grenades.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 2:27 PM Forum Rules   # 27
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Well I said "Are you kidding!?" because I wasn't sure whether he was kidding or not.

Uber - Do you really have some more Homeworld script stuff? And if so please release it!
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If Uber posts a "PWNED" picture right now, he'd have game-set-matched the entire forum.
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Except that your post would steal some of its pwnedness being a forewarning.
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Minor plothole.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 3:07 PM Forum Rules   # 31
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Oh, yeah, I've got some unreleased stuff. I've had it for a year or so.
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Will it remain unreleased for long?
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Old 19th Dec 05, 3:58 PM Forum Rules   # 33
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Depends if I forget again or not, and if I can find it.
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That's it! Charge!
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Old 19th Dec 05, 4:22 PM Forum Rules   # 35
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Ubers a tease.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 4:22 PM Forum Rules   # 36
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what he really means is he'll have to email rob to confirm that he could release it without getting into doodoo
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Uber - Move hell and Earth to get this stuff released please.
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Yes, please release this stuff uber
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Old 19th Dec 05, 6:55 PM Forum Rules   # 39
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They're the HW2 game scripts. 2 different versions of the HW2 script... one from November 2002 (version 4) goes 106 pages, the one from July 15 2003 (Version 9.9) goes 159 pages.

I think they already may have been released though.

Oh, and I remember why I didn't get them released, RobC was confirming with Ron Moravek about releasing them.
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They don't call him the Relic Stalker(tm) for nothing. I'd better make sure I hide the script for ForestrySim 2: The Great Softwood Lumber Dispute from his prying eyes! :sprint:
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Uber moonlights as a relic janitor, that's how he has all the goods
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Old 19th Dec 05, 7:23 PM Forum Rules   # 42
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Uber - A bunch of info on the story and artwork from the beginning of Dust Wars was released but not those scripts (I remember nothing nearly that many pages). Please show us!
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Uber, we haven't gotten any releases over 15 pages I don't think. Two novel sized documents would probably cause a forum wide Homeworldy orgasm.
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Two novel sized documents would probably cause a forum wide Homeworldy orgasm.


This thread just got x-rated. hawt.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 8:16 PM Forum Rules   # 46
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I call Uber's bluff.
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Old 19th Dec 05, 8:30 PM Forum Rules   # 47
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I think this bit, had it been left in, would have helped close one of the percieved plot holes with Makaan trying to get to Sajuuk.

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Pride of Hiigara hyperspaces in at the gate. Makaan is present and heading into the center of the gate as we watch.
FLEET INTEL
Sensors detecting a massive quantum wave effect forming in the center of the Gate. Makaan is activating the Progenitor Gate!
MAKAAN
You’re too late, Karan. Sajuuk denied my ancestors their destiny. Now, I will deny you Sajuuk.
Even as he speaks, Makaan’s ship enters the hyperspace portal and disappears with an escort of Vaygr ships. The Gate closes and immediately falls under attack by remaining Vaygr units.
FLEET COMMAND (CONTD)
Makaan! No!
Letterbox off.


Not so sure about this bit though...

Quote:
6.13 ANI 06-07: TRINITY ENGRAVING
FLEET INTEL
While examining the Lighthouse formation, our Research Division found several key indicators linking it to similar ruins at Tanis. They believe both formations are relics of the Progenitors, a highly advanced civilization that existed before the First Time.
No written records from this Empire remain, but artifacts scattered across the galaxy hint at unimaginable advancement. If the weapon the Oracle mentioned was indeed made by the Progenitors, then the location to which we are heading may be its Foundry.
FLEET COMMAND
An engraving is of particular interest:
‘Trinity sequence’. Shows three hyperspace cores. As the narration progresses, the Vaygr, Hiigaran and Bentusi cores are lit, in that order.
The narrator is an echo of the prophecy, in the voice of the Oracle.
PROPHECY
The Fate of the Three is thus:
One will be found and then lost.
One will be lost and then found.
One will be hidden and then sacrificed.
These are the Sigils of the Great Maker, Sajuuk.


Anyway...
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Old 19th Dec 05, 8:31 PM Forum Rules   # 48
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i think a raid of uber's house is in order.
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Uber's house is an impregnible sci-fi fortress.
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Uber this is cruel and unusual.
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